Why does the shovel make more dmg then a knife?

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  • Yes this is crossfire. Hey, why don't we just add a add a 1 hit kill spoon? It's unrealistic but this is just a game so f* it.
  • Hey, why don't we just add a add a 1 hit kill spoon?

    Are you mad? Toothpicks, dude, toothpicks.
  • 'Density wrote:
    [;2940704']this thread is still open o-o

    Why not? This is a legit question.
  • Want me to take an army field shovel to your back and show you why it does more damage ?
  • Well. I rather have a shovel rather than a knife in real like because its more ranged that a knife.. Think about it. and plus, shovel can really hurt if you hit it someone's head on the edge of it. I think crossfire was just making it good because of the range. And btw, does crossfire even know what a machete looks like? i can tell your right now that the one they put in is like the most stupidest machete look ever. lol
  • Step 1, get a log.

    Step 2, get a knife.

    step 3, knife the log.

    step 4, inspect the log.

    Repeat steps 1 through 4 with a shovle.



    tempted to actually post the results.
  • Have you guys ever see someone play with the shovel?

    The player hits the enemy with the flat part, not with the edges. But even if the player would hit with the sharp edges, it's still not as strong as the knife.

    Here is a picture of the shovel again for you guys to see

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    That shovel isn't that sharp, it looks like a normal garden shovel.

    and here is the knife

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    Look how sharp the knife is, and the back is real evil.
  • this is still going on? lol

    Why shouldn't it?

    I still think that the knife should make more damage, the shovel is just lame.
  • The answer:

    The point of the match is by taking your enemy out. Rather you do it by killing him or to shovel him unconscious.. Nobody says they die, they just are out of play. That's why shovel is humanfriendlier.. is that a word? :o
  • Rather you do it by killing him or to shovel him unconscious.. Nobody says they die, they just are out of play.

    Anyway, the knife makes more damage then a shovel.
  • Why are people still humoring this thread? BadMonkey already got several explanations to why the shovel does more damage than the knife, and he ignored them all. So its about time people wised up and ignored this thread.
  • Frecklez wrote: »
    Why are people still humoring this thread? BadMonkey already got several explanations to why the shovel does more damage than the knife, and he ignored them all. So its about time people wised up and ignored this thread.

    Why do you still answer my threads even after I blocked you?

    Do you even know what that means? It means that I don't like you. Why do you talk to people that don't like you? You once again proofed that you are nothing but a little kid. If you'd be a mature person you would just ignore me like I did you but you still follow me and try to troll me.

    You should ask yourself, who is the troll here? And give arguments.

    I think you are the troll because you still follow and try to attack me.

    I am more mature because I just ignore you.

    Just think about it.


    But lets forget about that, what you said is not right. People gave me some explanations, that's right but they are wrong.

    Do you know how a discussion works? One says something and the other answers, then the first person says something else and the other answers him again.

    If you read the thread you will see that I am the one who made the last argument and no one answered on that. This means this discussion isn't finished yet.

    My last point was that the shovel in cf isn't sharp at all.

    This shovel is sharp

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    If you look at it you will see that it is basically a knife. But the shovel in crossfire isn't sharp, it's just a normal shovel you use in your garden for flowers.

    And if you watch the player you will see that he attacks with the flat part, not with the sharp edges, which aren't that sharp at all.
  • answer me, if you can of curse.
    I don't ignore you because I don't like you, BadMonkey. That's what kids do. You asked a perfectly reasonable question, and I felt I could answer it for you. So I ignored my personal feelings for you, which WAS the mature thing to do, and answered your question without any personal attacks, like you just made in your post above.

    A weapon doesn't always have to be sharp to do damage. A bullet isn't sharp either. In fact they are duller than the edge of a shovel. Its the force behind the delivery of the blow that overcomes the weapon's need to be sharp to inflict damage. That goes for both the bullet as well as the shovel. Another factor is size. Thought the knife is sharper, it only has a small striking area, while as the shovel's edge has a bigger striking area, thus creating a bigger wound.

    As for your second question about which one of us I think is the troll, let me just point out which one of us has been banned, and which one is still posting from her original account for the past 3 years. I think that answer will service.
  • Now you're just trying to deny what you did.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    I don't ignore you because I don't like you, BadMonkey. That's what kids do.

    I didn't put you on my ignore list because i didn't like you too. I put you on my ignore list because you do nothing but attacking me. You didn't stop following me so I just put you on my ignore list so I don't have to listen to your bs.

    Ohh and since when is it childish to ignore other people because you don't like them?
    Frecklez wrote: »
    You asked a perfectly reasonable question, and I felt I could answer it for you.

    You didn't answer my question. Here is what you said again:

    Why are people still humoring this thread? BadMonkey already got several explanations to why the shovel does more damage than the knife, and he ignored them all. So its about time people wised up and ignored this thread.

    That was nothing but a attack. You didn't answer any of my questions at all, you just blamed me. You said that I ignored all the facts but I didn't, if you go back and read the thread you can see that I answered all the posts. You also told them to just ignore me.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    So I ignored my personal feelings for you, which WAS the mature thing to do, and answered your question without any personal attacks, like you just made in your post above.

    The mature thing to do would be to just ignore the thread and go on. What would happen if you just had ignored this thread? Is it really that hard? I ignore you too and I can tell you that it is easier then you think

    Anyway, as I said above, you attacked me for no reason and didn't answered my question. And on my old account I saw you answer to my posts too. I don't know what those post say, because I can't read them but I'm sure they weren't nice posts too. I could just un-ignore you and answer to your posts but I thought it would be better to just ignore them.

    Also the only reason why I attacked you is because you attacked me first. I didn't want to attack you at the first place, that's why I put you on my ignore list.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    A weapon doesn't always have to be sharp to do damage.

    A knife has to be sharp, that's the whole point of a knife. Or we could just use those

    wuoNi.jpg

    same goes for the shovel. If it isn't sharp it wont do any damage, or at least not as much as a sharp knife.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    A bullet isn't sharp either. In fact they are duller than the edge of a shovel. Its the force behind the delivery of the blow that overcomes the weapon's need to be sharp to inflict damage.

    Now you compare bullets with a shovel? Do you know how fast a bullet is? A human (or an animal) can't swing a shovel that fast. Or do you fire your shovels with a rocket launcher?

    Again, if it's only the force that makes the damage, we could just use those blunt butter knife crap.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    That goes for both the bullet as well as the shovel. Another factor is size. Thought the knife is sharper, it only has a small striking area, while as the shovel's edge has a bigger striking area, thus creating a bigger wound.

    The size makes it weaker because the damage is spread and get's lost.

    The player hits the enemy with the flat part of the shovel. That means that the damage is spread on his back. He might get a bruise from that hit but that's all. The knife actually goes inside his body and makes more damage.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    As for your second question about which one of us I think is the troll, let me just point out which one of us has been banned, and which one is still posting from her original account for the past 3 years. I think that answer will service.

    Yea because moderators are perfect beings that make no mistakes.

    I am banned because the moderators don't like me. That's all.

    I got warnings for insulting and my post got deleted and in the same thread there were 3 other people that insulted me but didn't got deleted at all.

    Also I got warnings for posting pictures of other games, but other users who do it have their posts still up.

    many people break the rules but the moderators actually don't care or they don't notice it. I got their attention and that's why they watch me better and delete all my posts. There was this sprinting thread, the guy called me a "dump fck idiot" and told me many times to "fck off" and his posts are still up. I din't insulted him a single time in that thread. And that's why I don't care about the moderators opinion.

    Again, I am not trolling at all but I think that you troll. You follow me, even after I blocked you and you attack me. Well I don't know how you see that but I think that's trolling. I am the one who tried to stop the flaming, you continued it.
  • I am banned because the moderators don't like me. That's all.
    I wonder why that is...

    Perhaps because you lack a likable personality.

    I did answer your question, BadMonkey. Probably before you got banned and were able to see it. In fact, several people you don't like took the time to put personal feelings aside to answer your question. However, seeing as how you ignore simple physics as much as you ignore the people you don't like, you still don't feel satisfied with the answers they gave you.


  • You didn't answer my question. Here is what you said again:

    Why are people still humoring this thread? BadMonkey already got several explanations to why the shovel does more damage than the knife, and he ignored them all. So its about time people wised up and ignored this thread.

    From 5 pages ago...

    Frecklez wrote: »
    This would be the answer if this game was 100% reality based:

    - Because when you wield a shovel like you would wield an axe (using the sharp edge, rather than the dull end), the striking surface of the shovel is bigger than that of a knife. Also, with the longer handle, you can use both hands to strike, thus apply more force, and your swing will have a greater momentum.

    This is the answer because its not:

    - Its CrossFire.
  • I'm going to ask any personal vendettas not to be continued on this thread. This is not the place for it and it is extremely off topic.

    This is about shovels doing more damage than knives.
    Nothing personal has to come into it.

    Continued from such will yield infractions.
  • Thanks for deleting the whole post instant of only the personal attacks...

    Anyway,
    Frecklez wrote: »
    This would be the answer if this game was 100% reality based:

    - Because when you wield a shovel like you would wield an axe (using the sharp edge, rather than the dull end), the striking surface of the shovel is bigger than that of a knife. Also, with the longer handle, you can use both hands to strike, thus apply more force, and your swing will have a greater momentum..

    I don't remember what my deleted posts said but it was something like this:

    In cf you use the flat part of the shovel to hit the enemy, and that's the weak part. It's weak because it's light and flat. Why do you think knight use swords and not shovels? You can also see knights with hammers but I never saw one with a shovel.
    Frecklez wrote: »
    This is the answer because its not:

    - Its CrossFire.

    But that's not a reason to stop improving this game.
  • I'm done having this discussion with you, BadMonkey. There is no point in explaining it to you if you can't grasp the concepts of force and momentum.
  • You are always free to leave this thread.

    Anyway, I stay by what I said, the shovel is weaker then a sword.
  • You are always free to leave this thread.

    Anyway, I stay by what I said, the shovel is weaker then a sword.
    Except this wasn't about a sword, but a knife.