@Saidin & every1 about MotG II
Hello Saidin, since every1 can see this MotG II is unfair, so I'm speaking for the top 8 clans.
Why unfair:
1. example if 3-5 clans end up with 100% then the two with more games going to final? or all 5... if it's only 2 then it's unfair to 3 others.
2. I'm sure the top 8 clans lost/draw some of their games to hackers cause their % decrease, we reported but you guys didn't erase anything after you guys analysis.... come on now.
3. Let say a clan with 80 people, and all of them wants the gold katana, then 80 of them will have to play 10 games, for a 4vs4 games then 80 people = 200 matches total leading to higher chance facing hackers, compare to a clan with less than 16 people they could just play 40 matches then leave it 100%
4. It's your job to make it fair, you get money from us, we are the customer, we have the rights to speak if it's unfair, we share ours opinion with you.
Request: To make this fair we would like to request you Saidin. The top 10 clans should be going to semi-final, a random bracket for the top 10. 5 two clans facing off, then 5 winners continue, complication on making this one to 4 winners, you guys pick 1 random clan to stay out and now it's 4 left right, we gonna have to play 2 games to pick out 3 winners, ex: A vs B, C vs D then switch A vs C, B vs D then all that scored counts together, the 1 with lowest scored get disqualify, or you guys could just come up with anything to make it to 4.... so now its 3 left right? plus the lucky clan we left out, so it's 4 now, going to semi-final then final.
My request is to make the real competitive for top 10 winners, so if you guys agree with me leave msg below I hope Saidin would reconsider about this, thank you.
Why unfair:
1. example if 3-5 clans end up with 100% then the two with more games going to final? or all 5... if it's only 2 then it's unfair to 3 others.
2. I'm sure the top 8 clans lost/draw some of their games to hackers cause their % decrease, we reported but you guys didn't erase anything after you guys analysis.... come on now.
3. Let say a clan with 80 people, and all of them wants the gold katana, then 80 of them will have to play 10 games, for a 4vs4 games then 80 people = 200 matches total leading to higher chance facing hackers, compare to a clan with less than 16 people they could just play 40 matches then leave it 100%
4. It's your job to make it fair, you get money from us, we are the customer, we have the rights to speak if it's unfair, we share ours opinion with you.
Request: To make this fair we would like to request you Saidin. The top 10 clans should be going to semi-final, a random bracket for the top 10. 5 two clans facing off, then 5 winners continue, complication on making this one to 4 winners, you guys pick 1 random clan to stay out and now it's 4 left right, we gonna have to play 2 games to pick out 3 winners, ex: A vs B, C vs D then switch A vs C, B vs D then all that scored counts together, the 1 with lowest scored get disqualify, or you guys could just come up with anything to make it to 4.... so now its 3 left right? plus the lucky clan we left out, so it's 4 now, going to semi-final then final.
My request is to make the real competitive for top 10 winners, so if you guys agree with me leave msg below I hope Saidin would reconsider about this, thank you.
Comments
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They already said everything for this tournament was set in stone and nothing for the present tournament will be changed.Hello Saidin, since every1 can see this MotG II is unfair, so I'm speaking for the top 8 clans.
Why unfair:
1. example if 3-5 clans end up with 100% then the two with more games going to final? or all 5... if it's only 2 then it's unfair to 3 others.
2. I'm sure the top 8 clans lost/draw some of their games to hackers cause their % decrease, we reported but you guys didn't erase anything after you guys analysis.... come on now.
3. Let say a clan with 80 people, and all of them wants the gold katana, then 80 of them will have to play 10 games, for a 4vs4 games then 80 people = 200 matches total leading to higher chance facing hackers, compare to a clan with less than 16 people they could just play 40 matches then leave it 100%
4. It's your job to make it fair, you get money from us, we are the customer, we have the rights to speak if it's unfair, we share ours opinion with you.
Request: To make this fair we would like to request you Saidin. The top 10 clans should be going to semi-final, a random bracket for the top 10. 5 two clans facing off, then 5 winners continue, complication on making this one to 4 winners, you guys pick 1 random clan to stay out and now it's 4 left right, we gonna have to play 2 games to pick out 3 winners, ex: A vs B, C vs D then switch A vs C, B vs D then all that scored counts together, the 1 with lowest scored get disqualify, so now its 3 left right? plus the lucky clan we left out, so it's 4 now, going to semi-final then final.
My request is to make the real competitive for top 10 winners, so if you guys agree with me leave msg below I hope Saidin would reconsider about this, thank you.
Quoted from [GM]Saidin:Unfortunately it will be impossible to please everyone.
Considering the number of people commenting here and the number of clans you were in take it as this:
You were probably not going to win the tournament in the first place. Our suggestion would be to add constructive criticism on how to improve the next one because this one is set in stone at this point.
Once the places and final records have been announced it is impossible for us to change that fact. No amount of trolling qq'ing or general whining is going to change that. What we can do is look to improve the process for the next time. We've learned a lot about what works and what doesn't from this.
Lastly, the rules were set out. Clans which hacked are not at the top, however everyone had the chance to play against all clans during this tournament therefore everyone had the same amount of chance for their records to be "messed up". The more clans players played the more chance they had to encounter this. It is also not fair to the clan who achieved the top record to have their records UNadjusted. This is why we have to stay with what we have announced.
Nothing was stopping you from not playing in the tournament. When we announced the tournament most of you were QQing about it being on the Clan Server anyways.
This thread will be closed and subsequent QQ threads about this tournament will also be removed.
If you don't believe the clans who made it to the top deserve to be there then that's fine. Prove it in the next tournament. -
I think for a future event like this, it should go by a point system. 2 points for a win, -1 for a loss, 0 for a tie, etc (You guys can work out the numbers).
Furthermore, this could be used as a qualifying round so that the top 8 or top 16 clans can have a little tournament to determine a winning team. -
Hello Saidin, since every1 can see this MotG II is unfair, so I'm speaking for the top 8 clans.
Why unfair:
1. example if 3-5 clans end up with 100% then the two with more games going to final? or all 5... if it's only 2 then it's unfair to 3 others.
2. I'm sure the top 8 clans lost/draw some of their games to hackers cause their % decrease, we reported but you guys didn't erase anything after you guys analysis.... come on now.
3. Let say a clan with 80 people, and all of them wants the gold katana, then 80 of them will have to play 10 games, for a 4vs4 games then 80 people = 200 matches total leading to higher chance facing hackers, compare to a clan with less than 16 people they could just play 40 matches then leave it 100%
4. It's your job to make it fair, you get money from us, we are the customer, we have the rights to speak if it's unfair, we share ours opinion with you.
Request: To make this fair we would like to request you Saidin. The top 10 clans should be going to semi-final, a random bracket for the top 10. 5 two clans facing off, then 5 winners continue, complication on making this one to 4 winners, you guys pick 1 random clan to stay out and now it's 4 left right, we gonna have to play 2 games to pick out 3 winners, ex: A vs B, C vs D then switch A vs C, B vs D then all that scored counts together, the 1 with lowest scored get disqualify, so now its 3 left right? plus the lucky clan we left out, so it's 4 now, going to semi-final then final.
My request is to make the real competitive for top 10 winners, so if you guys agree with me leave msg below I hope Saidin would reconsider about this, thank you.
Why? for what? Many people has considered other game already................. -
I think for a future event like this, it should go by a point system. 2 points for a win, -1 for a loss, 0 for a tie, etc (You guys can work out the numbers).
Furthermore, this could be used as a qualifying round so that the top 8 or top 16 clans can have a little tournament to determine a winning team.
Not sure if I completely agree with the idea of a point system, just so there would be less complaining about it on the forums, which is happening now O.o -
This was no MOTG2 it was a disgrace. Nothing is earned from this tourny except that Katana. No use trying to get them to change anything, they're too lazy.
We were the underdogs, who is commenting on the outside, surely do not know how unfair this is! -
This was no MOTG2 it was a disgrace. Nothing is earned from this tourny except that Katana. No use trying to get them to change anything, they're too lazy.We were the underdogs, who is commenting on the outside, surely do not know how unfair this is!
Like they said, they are going t learn from this tournament and incorporate what they find into future ones.
BTW, what time does the Golden Gun Tournament usually get hosted? -
Faze_Ghost wrote: »Seriously. I report most of our hackers but nothing happened. I felt this event was unfair. I agree with Chingzz on this... Please do something about this?
What has happened for this tournament is already past. Z8 will learn from this and incorporate that into future tournaments. -
Faze_Ghost wrote: »Seriously. I report most of our hackers but nothing happened. I felt this event was unfair. I agree with Chingzz on this... Please do something about this?
I doubt they will do anything about it at this point. We all have the right to be appalled.
EDIT: What OldLegends' members have to say is pretty irrelevant too. -
thisgameowns wrote: »What has happened for this tournament is already past. Z8 will learn from this and incorporate that into future tournaments.
I can't agree more, what's done is done.
But as you have read my other post, that's how they looked at it or learned from it? That's how they talk and act when they make mistake? -
thisgameowns wrote: »What has happened for this tournament is already past. Z8 will learn from this and incorporate that into future tournaments.
LOL LOL LOL. I can see someone is extremely glad he/she doesn't have to face Pan[th]ers in the final. Keeps stressing that it has been set in stone and it is all in the past hoping and praying that Saidin doesn't agree with Chingroarz.
It's kind of sad but seriously though Ching, the rules were laid out at the start and it was never about greatest number of wins. They did say win PERCENTAGE -
TheDarkRider wrote: »LOL LOL LOL. I can see someone is extremely glad he/she doesn't have to face Pan[th]ers in the final. Keeps stressing that it has been set in stone and it is all in the past hoping and praying that Saidin doesn't agree with Chingroarz.
It's kind of sad but seriously though Ching, the rules were laid out at the start and it was never about greatest number of wins. They did say win PERCENTAGE
And the hackers ? all us have replays, with others clans using hack, totally lay this tournament -
Saidin
Saidina PLEASE GIVE MY CLAN 1 MORE DAY 40-0 IS SO EASY. I CAN BEAT 40 BR CLAN IN CLAN SERVER IN ONE DAY I BEG U PLEASE. I WANNA BE PRO LIKE OLDLEGENDS 31-0 BUT BETTER BECAUSE I CAN FIND 40 EASY PZ CLANS . and MOTG 2 is nothing like MOTG 1 not even close. The only thing bad about it was the way it was ran unlike the elimination like MOTG1 . -
'Density wrote:[;2900146']like i said on the other thread.. if they are gonna close this den i expect a reasonable answer from saidin/talon
the mods/gm are sleeping, so this won't be closed until morning. hopefully, it'll stay up longer (that's what she said) -
Saidina PLEASE GIVE MY CLAN 1 MORE DAY 40-0 IS SO EASY. I CAN BEAT 40 BR CLAN IN CLAN SERVER IN ONE DAY I BEG U PLEASE. I WANNA BE PRO LIKE OLDLEGENDS 31-0 BUT BETTER BECAUSE I CAN FIND 40 EASY PZ CLANS . and MOTG 2 is nothing like MOTG 1 not even close. The only thing bad about it was the way it was ran unlike the elimination like MOTG1 .
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. Now that's hilarious!!!
Very good one. Had my sides bursting -
nopBadPlayer11 wrote: »They could of taken a extra day to request the replays with cheater's, then go through them and ben accordingly. couldnt they?
Nop they can't too busy running CF yet CF had a error this morning smh.They need to give my clan a extra day so I can 40-0 because apprently. 100-2 is not better than 40-0.
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