March of the Ghosts II - Clan Match Tournament Results
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This is so LAME!!!
"Seventh Place
In seventh comes another clan with 100+ wins and still managed over 90% win%, with a record of 167-5-12.
eVent.
http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=226486"
These guys played most of the games, they have 5 lost games on 167 played games thats like 3% of lost games.
Other good gm clans were Pan[TH]erS, Bane. and Stalkers™
Its just stupid to look people with only 30 clan wars, they could easyly played vs 30 noob clans and thats it, and we all know that those 4 clans that I said sentence above played at least 2 times vs some haker clan and that was inposible to win that.
So please this thing suck!!!! -
LolLook at my last post. - -
This tournament was a joke, it would've been way better if it wasn't half assed and actually looked like a tournament.
But good luck to you guys, I respect you guys mainly cus of you and Gods.
First off...
(:
It's true many people don't like the "style" of the tournament and others are furious with the hackers.. but meh..
P.S. I love you Alex (: -
ThisThis is so LAME!!!
"Seventh Place
In seventh comes another clan with 100+ wins and still managed over 90% win%, with a record of 167-5-12.
eVent.
http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=226486"
These guys played most of the games, they have 5 lost games on 167 played games thats like 3% of lost games.
Other good gm clans were Pan[TH]erS, Bane. and Stalkers™
Its just stupid to look people with only 30 clan wars, they could easyly played vs 30 noob clans and thats it, and we all know that those 4 clans that I said sentence above played at least 2 times vs some haker clan and that was inposible to win that.
So please this thing suck!!!!
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »Unfortunately the records have to count. The problem with automating the tournament comes with the fact that we can remove clans from winning, but it becomes more difficult to remove those specific games from record.
If we ran a non-automated tournament the signups would last about 9.78 seconds and chances are your clan (or any clan here) wouldn't be involved in the tournament at all. And then you would be still complaining that these clans are filled with nobodies and unskilled players.
This is where outside tournaments come in to play. Video Game companies look to automate competitive environments for the entire game population. It does not make sense for a game company to find a way for only 5 clans to compete. Considering there are 100's available. And those 100's competing in a bracket-style tournament would take 2-3 years with the man power we have to run. Automating the process allows us to run these kinds of things more often.
That is not stopping other places from doing more 'legitimate' if you want to call it that, tournaments on their own. As I've already talked about in the competitive thread, the tools for the game are already there, nothing is stopping anyone from starting a closed tournament.
I agree with JudegsimGhostF on this one, how are we suppose to "Dodge" a clan if they have Captain and Major ranks. I would of think "this sounds like a fair game with high ranks", yet they start blatantly cheating on GR side and then you got a lose.
You have the tools/hands to change the results, we have the replays of those unlegit matches.
If you can't do something like that to remove those unlegit games, then indeed this is a joke tournament. -
This is so LAME!!!
"Seventh Place
In seventh comes another clan with 100+ wins and still managed over 90% win%, with a record of 167-5-12.
eVent.
http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=226486"
These guys played most of the games, they have 5 lost games on 167 played games thats like 3% of lost games.
Other good gm clans were Pan[TH]erS, Bane. and Stalkers™
Its just stupid to look people with only 30 clan wars, they could easyly played vs 30 noob clans and thats it, and we all know that those 4 clans that I said sentence above played at least 2 times vs some haker clan and that was inposible to win that.
So please this thing suck!!!!
Than you should have done the same.
OL used this rule to our advantage. -
I play ingame quite frequently. However, I don't claim to know everything about it, and I doubt other Mods are the same.JudgeSimmmm wrote: »Its funny how u mods think that you guys know the game, but only go on the forums.This is so LAME!!!
"Seventh Place
In seventh comes another clan with 100+ wins and still managed over 90% win%, with a record of 167-5-12.
eVent.
http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=226486"
These guys played most of the games, they have 5 lost games on 167 played games thats like 3% of lost games.
Other good gm clans were Pan[TH]erS, Bane. and Stalkers™
Its just stupid to look people with only 30 clan wars, they could easyly played vs 30 noob clans and thats it, and we all know that those 4 clans that I said sentence above played at least 2 times vs some haker clan and that was inposible to win that.
So please this thing suck!!!!
It was always known that having the highest win % would win the top spots, not having the highest # of wins. -
This is so LAME!!!
"Seventh Place
In seventh comes another clan with 100+ wins and still managed over 90% win%, with a record of 167-5-12.
eVent.
http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=226486"
These guys played most of the games, they have 5 lost games on 167 played games thats like 3% of lost games.
Other good gm clans were Pan[TH]erS, Bane. and Stalkers™
Its just stupid to look people with only 30 clan wars, they could easyly played vs 30 noob clans and thats it, and we all know that those 4 clans that I said sentence above played at least 2 times vs some haker clan and that was inposible to win that.
So please this thing suck!!!!
yup,it isnt fair -
What would've been smarter was to get top 32 win %'s after this march crap ended into a bracket tournament... This idea for a "tournament" seems more like a good idea for a qualifier.. 32 clans wouldn't take but a month or two to finish and I'm sure Talon would've loved to supervise that. ;]
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Seriously?
i play always play ghost mode when i am in crossfire... its the only mode which keeps me here... i thought could be fun that tournament... i am in Panthers and we played as u can see more than 150 cws... lost against hacker clans... lost by dcs... got fair draw...
and just cause another clan stopped by 35 cws... they got into final? i dont want to insult any1 but this rules are a bad joke in my view... seriously...
we worked whole month... hard for this tournament... played so much cws... had bad luck some times... and get beated by a clan who just did 35 cws or something... i never heared of Kill Support while my whole time in Ghost Mode... never saw them... people who are really high skilled in ghost mode lost against clans cause they got lucky cws and stopped at right time?
this tournament is a bad joke... March of the Ghosts 2010 showed us who is skilled... but this tournament? thats just like a luck game... no fairness in this tournament... i hope OldLegends win this cause this is a clan which is good known in ghost mode... and they are pretty good... for me it looks like they get a free win not even a interessting final match...
in my view... tournament = bad... next time get better rules... this kinda tournament... is... sh** -
Without this hackers we had a ratio of 99 - 100% !!
Z8 answered on my ticket with:
Hello,
We will be reviewing each of the top clans when the time is right for hack reports as well as bans. We will be disqualifying those clans upon discovery of hacking.
But dont remove the Looses against them?
This is fair ? -.- -
It was always known that having the highest win % would win the top spots, not having the highest # of wins.
Highest % of low ranked, NOOB clans is very PRO to do!
We can all argue whole day about it, but I will always be RIGHT!
I dont denie that they are good players, they all do have my respect, but 30 games arent measure of clans skills. On the other hand 100+ wins are with % over 95%!
All those clans that I wrote are true example of ghost mode greatness and they have my BIG RESPECT!!!
Congratulations to those who won this tournament, but my opinion won't change. -
Normaly we had won with just 1 looses and more than 160 wins!
Just Hacker destroyed our ratio!
Z8 answered : Hello,
We will be reviewing each of the top clans when the time is right for hack reports as well as bans. We will be disqualifying those clans upon discovery of hacking.
You think this is fair?
@MOD9 Stop close all my threads omg There is no illegal texts i sent ! -
SickJacken wrote: »Without this hackers we had a ratio of 99 - 100% !!
Z8 answered on my ticket with:
Hello,
We will be reviewing each of the top clans when the time is right for hack reports as well as bans. We will be disqualifying those clans upon discovery of hacking.
But dont remove the Looses against them?
This is fair ? -.-
As how I see it, Saidin doesn't care if they were hacking in Clan Wars, the match still counts because it's a "legit" match.
Ofc is not fair...Saidin has the hands to make any move on the scores and review the hack clans at anytime. Why rush, you had an extra day to sort out the clan records, you should of took 2 days and remove the clans with hacks in them.
Like I said before, you got the tools to edit them, and we got the replays to prove it. -
rly??????
As i saw the event i thought Crossfire goes better and better and now this?
How can a 31-0 clanwar clan win against a clan with 100 clanwar wins more and they lost only because they played against hackers. They reported every hackerclanwar and NOTHING!!! gg Z8.
I hope you will change that rly fast. Thats rly a joke.
Sorry but its true... -.- -
Unfortunately it will be impossible to please everyone.
Considering the number of people commenting here and the number of clans you were in take it as this:
You were probably not going to win the tournament in the first place. Our suggestion would be to add constructive criticism on how to improve the next one because this one is set in stone at this point.
Once the places and final records have been announced it is impossible for us to change that fact. No amount of trolling qq'ing or general whining is going to change that. What we can do is look to improve the process for the next time. We've learned a lot about what works and what doesn't from this.
Lastly, the rules were set out. Clans which hacked are not at the top, however everyone had the chance to play against all clans during this tournament therefore everyone had the same amount of chance for their records to be "messed up". The more clans players played the more chance they had to encounter this. It is also not fair to the clan who achieved the top record to have their records UNadjusted. This is why we have to stay with what we have announced.
Nothing was stopping you from not playing in the tournament. When we announced the tournament most of you were QQing about it being on the Clan Server anyways.
This thread will be closed and subsequent QQ threads about this tournament will also be removed.
If you don't believe the clans who made it to the top deserve to be there then that's fine. Prove it in the next tournament.
This discussion has been closed.
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