Ron Paul
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I somehow doubt the election of a leader that tells it how it is will actually change anything in the country (though the various speeches aimed at the audience are enthralling), the people must become educated for any change to occur.
Which will never happen because the majority of Americans are stuck in believing things that were true 50 years ago, if not even longer, as undeniable truth and fact.
For any real change to occur I believe America must be eclipsed by a different country to become remotivated as the rest of the world fills the gap left behind after WW2.
One other thing, as I have paid little to no attention to the republican primaries, I thought Romney or some look alike was on the top of the polls? As a result, does that mean Paul isn't wildly popular?
Also, why not reelect Obama, what exactly is the issue with him? Is it because ihe seemingly has changed next to nothing, because that's not true.
If anyone was offended by the remarks made in this post, don't worry I'm American.
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Also, why not reelect Obama, what exactly is the issue with him? Is it because ihe seemingly has changed next to nothing, because that's not true.
If anyone was offended by the remarks made in this post, don't worry I'm American.
(which makes it okay?)
I used to support Obama, until he couldn't hold to anything he said.
The guy is a bigger war-hawk than Bush, spends more, has pretty much shat on education, is in himself a hypocrite. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »I used to support Obama, until he couldn't hold to anything he said.
The guy is a bigger war-hawk than Bush, spends more, has pretty much shat on education, is in himself a hypocrite.
I'm glad that someone else can finally see through his lies.
But, even so, I'm not going to vote for Paul. Rick Santorum all the way. -
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WORLD CURRENCY PLAN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjyo8-0gXEU
With this news people better get on Paul's side. He is the only one that will stop this from happening. Romney or Obama would sell us out so fast on this matter. The UN has no business handling the worlds money. I do hope that people understand what this means? That would end the rights of every American in a sec. Once they put this in to affect, every nation will have to rewrite there Constitution. And believe this. It will not be in your favor.
Ron Paul 2012 -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Are you serious?
You're voting for the herp derp Iran is Herp derp country guy? The guy that wants to place religious sanctions with the government?
Yeah... That guy... Idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhxwJnPbzt4
I have no problem with Santorum. In fact, his political views are very similar to mine (pro life, pro family, patriotic, etc.)
Honestly I think Paul's views on Iran are idiotic (pardon the expression). Evidently, he has no problem allowing a country with the stated intent of crippling the US and destroying US allies in the Middle East to have nuclear weapons.
Secondly, Paul is a libertarian. Although this in itself isn't a problem to me (some of my best friends are libertarians), Paul's particular form of libertarianism is shocking to me. The one issue that I will not galvanize on is abortion. Therefore, it is intolerable to my conscience to knowingly vote for Paul over Santorum.
Of course, if he wins the nomination, and is faced against our current president, I would vote for him in a hot second. But Paul is not my first choice. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »I have no problem with Santorum. In fact, his political views are very similar to mine (pro life, pro family, patriotic, etc.)
Honestly I think Paul's views on Iran are idiotic (pardon the expression). Evidently, he has no problem allowing a country with the stated intent of crippling the US and destroying US allies in the Middle East to have nuclear weapons.
Secondly, Paul is a libertarian. Although this in itself isn't a problem to me (some of my best friends are libertarians), Paul's particular form of libertarianism is shocking to me. The one issue that I will not galvanize on is abortion. Therefore, it is intolerable to my conscience to knowingly vote for Paul over Santorum.
Of course, if he wins the nomination, and is faced against our current president, I would vote for him in a hot second. But Paul is not my first choice.
lol your dumb.
ron paul is AGAINST ABORTION. although he is against it, he believes it is up to individual STATES to decide. nowhere in that policy does it state that he is FOR ABORTION.
stupid people these days... -
Yeah hes done a really great job..... NOT!! To many dumb people suckin up Air.
Obama isnt necessarily bad. he hasnt made a decision that has significantly decreased the quality of life, the quality of the economy, and the quality of the military in the US. he may not have made all the right choices, but he is definitely bearable.
remember, its congress that makes the big decisions. obama can't be held liable for everything. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »
That is a great video...
Seriously after watching that who wouldn't vote for him? no offense but you'd have to be an idiot. -
lol your dumb.
ron paul is AGAINST ABORTION. although he is against it, he believes it is up to individual STATES to decide. nowhere in that policy does it state that he is FOR ABORTION.
stupid people these days...
Obviously, his state's right's platform is part of his libertarian ideals. But, his ideals also include allowing individuals and states to decide if they desire to allow abortion or not. Although this might look like a stand against abortion to the ignorant, in actuality it provides a loophole where individuals and states can sanction abortions. Therefore, Paul does not stand against abortion because he thinks it is murder, he is against it because his libertarian beliefs dictate that people should have the liberty to do whatever they want.
Chub, you could try shutting your mouth for once, you might learn something. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »Obviously, his state's right's platform is part of his libertarian ideals. But, his ideals also include allowing individuals and states to decide if they desire to allow abortion or not. Although this might look like a stand against abortion to the ignorant, in actuality it provides a loophole where individuals and states can sanction abortions. Therefore, Paul does not stand against abortion because he thinks it is murder, he is against it because his libertarian beliefs dictate that people should have the liberty to do whatever they want.
Chub, you could try shutting your mouth for once, you might learn something.
Why you so worried about abortion?
It seems to me that Ron Paul is tackling the big issues and problems of America. He's exposing the real truth, stopping wars and giving the power back to the people. o.o
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MaypleSyrup wrote: »
Why you so worried about abortion?
It seems to me that Ron Paul is tackling the big issues and problems of America. He's exposing the real truth, stopping wars and giving the power back to the people. o.o
Because it is a "big issue" to me. I view a fetus as a human being making abortion murder. If millions of murders are being carried out every year then it is every bit as important as wars, the debt, and the economy. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »Obviously, his state's right's platform is part of his libertarian ideals. But, his ideals also include allowing individuals and states to decide if they desire to allow abortion or not. Although this might look like a stand against abortion to the ignorant, in actuality it provides a loophole where individuals and states can sanction abortions. Therefore, Paul does not stand against abortion because he thinks it is murder, he is against it because his libertarian beliefs dictate that people should have the liberty to do whatever they want.
Chub, you could try shutting your mouth for once, you might learn something.
So, we have established he is against abortion. so why wouldnt you vote for him?
it is such a contradiction to think that the government needs less power, yet to want abortion to be a federal affair. people want their personal beliefs to be enforced, but nothing else. well it needs to be either all up to the states or all up to the federal government, pick one.
also, would you rather have a cell undergoing meiosis to be scientifically aborted, or women to stab their wombs in back alleys? your choice. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »Because it is a "big issue" to me. I view a fetus as a human being making abortion murder. If millions of murders are being carried out every year then it is every bit as important as wars, the debt, and the economy.
not your decision, doesnt affect you, not your right to dictate. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »Because it is a "big issue" to me. I view a fetus as a human being making abortion murder. If millions of murders are being carried out every year then it is every bit as important as wars, the debt, and the economy.
No brain = no consciousness = no person = no murder. -
Erwin_Rommel wrote: »Because it is a "big issue" to me. I view a fetus as a human being making abortion murder. If millions of murders are being carried out every year then it is every bit as important as wars, the debt, and the economy.
Well, making abortions illegal can be dangerous.
That means people will have to get illegal abortions and that is extremely dangerous. It could lead to the guy performing the abortion ****ing up and probably killing the girl. -
no brain = no consciousness = no person = no murder.well, making abortions illegal can be dangerous.
That means people will have to get illegal abortions and that is extremely dangerous. It could lead to the guy performing the abortion ****ing up and probably killing the girl.
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also, would you rather have a cell undergoing meiosis to be scientifically aborted, or women to stab their wombs in back alleys? your choice.
So according to you, my choices are either scientific murder or primitive, brutalized murder? Both ways a baby is literally ripped apart. What is the difference?
And are those really the only two options? I have a sister who probably would have been aborted if your perfect world had been instituted. Yet today, because of alternatives like adoption, people like her can live because of choices besides your neat little barbaric catch 22.not your decision, doesnt affect you, not your right to dictate.
But it is my decision because I have a impact, however miniscule, on who is chosen to make the decision that will be the final word in law.Well, making abortions illegal can be dangerous.
I agree that outlawing abortions would have the undesirable effect of increasing underground abortions. However, I think the root of the problem is the mentality that people have about this.
In other words, they think like this:No brain = no consciousness = no person = no murder.
Good discussion here guys.
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