Hackers!

How long have z8games been working on the hack shield? Why don't they buy a hack shield from CoD etc etc. A hack shield can't be that expencive? Can it?
If they get a better hack shield and stronger servers, the game would be perfect by now..
As it seems, it will never be.
Thanks by the laggy servers the reg is not working and when you shoot at one person and hit him, and he kills you? Now what the fack is that???
It's to many hackers, this game is probably famous cuz it's so many hackers here..
Please get stronger servers and a better hack shield 2012, please make this year a better year in crossfire!
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  • It's isn't as simple as you think it is. There are legalities, contracts, agreements between the two parties.

    And it isn't Z8/G4Box's decision to make. That decision resides with the developers and original publisher in South Korea, Smilegate and Neowhiz (respectively).

    Yes there is an ongoing problem with hackers. But Z8 is working with XTrap to patch these hacks as well to fine-tune the auto detection system to catch and ban every hacker.
    There is also a reporting feature from support, found with the link below,
    http://support.z8games.com/webform_new.aspx

    Where you can submit a hacking report under Crossfire >> Hacking Report.
  • [MOD]9 wrote: »
    It's isn't as simple as you think it is. There are legalities, contracts, agreements between the two parties.

    And it isn't Z8/G4Box's decision to make. That decision resides with the developers and original publisher in South Korea, Smilegate and Neowhiz (respectively).

    Yes there is an ongoing problem with hackers. But Z8 is working with XTrap to patch these hacks as well to fine-tune the auto detection system to catch and ban every hacker.
    There is also a reporting feature from support, found with the link below,
    http://support.z8games.com/webform_new.aspx

    Where you can submit a hacking report under Crossfire >> Hacking Report.

    It isn't the gamers work to report hackers, it's the developers and the owners.. In any other game I have never ever seen a game like this, where the gamers report the hackers?...
  • It isn't the gamers work to report hackers, it's the developers and the owners.. In any other game I have never ever seen a game like this, where the gamers report the hackers?...

    What games do you play O.o

    As a community, it's our job to kick and report hackers. If we don't, the hackers will just increase in numbers.
  • TheCool925 wrote: »
    What games do you play O.o

    As a community, it's our job to kick and report hackers. If we don't, the hackers will just increase in numbers.

    Uhm, name one game that have the same hack/kick system as crossfire?
    Seriously? Cuz I don't know any other game, but maybe you can inform me?
  • It isn't the gamers work to report hackers, it's the developers and the owners.. In any other game I have never ever seen a game like this, where the gamers report the hackers?...

    You are not obligated to report them, but we do encourage to help us out.

    As I said, we also have an auto-detection system that kicks and temporarily bans hackers who use hacks.
    And as I also said, it's always being fine-tuned to try to keep with the latest waves of newer hacks that plague the game.
  • Uhm, name one game that have the same hack/kick system as crossfire?
    Seriously? Cuz I don't know any other game, but maybe you can inform me?

    Combat Arms has a support system very much similar to the Z8games support system, except it utilizes screenshots and videos via url, not the replay system that CF uses.

    You can look it up right now.

    Unfortunately, I cannot post the link because it would violate the Z8games ToS. I don't even know if TALKING about a different game is legal :D
  • TheCool925 wrote: »
    Combat Arms has a support system very much similar to the Z8games support system, except it utilizes screenshots and videos via url, not the replay system that CF uses.

    You can look it up right now.

    Unfortunately, I cannot post the link because it would violate the Z8games ToS. I don't even know if TALKING about a different game is legal :D

    Im sure it's no problem to inform me of that.
    But it would be better if they made a better hack shield, maybe it is hard maybe it isn't, I have no idea if it is hard or not ^^
  • Im going to sleep anyway.. Im so tired xD
  • The reason why z8 can't simply just switch to a CoD anti hack system is because
    1. They have agreements
    2. Lease time (the contract between x-trap and z8 has to expire first)
    3. This is a free to play game
    4. I'm sure z8 isn't the only one who makes decisions when it comes to decisions on a new anti-hack system. Z8 is only the game holder / website.

    Finally: http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=169771

    Read the sticky threads or use the search button.
  • It isn't the gamers work to report hackers, it's the developers and the owners.. In any other game I have never ever seen a game like this, where the gamers report the hackers?...

    It's our duty to report and kick hackers, what games do you play??
  • Curiquinge wrote: »
    It's our duty to report and kick hackers, what games do you play??

    We don't have any duty to do anything, not even login - Never mind looking and reporting cheaters.
  • Well when I used to play this game, I was one of those people who didn't bother to report hac//kers or do anything but kick them. Which I regret, not turning in replays and screen caps to get them banned. So one day while playing, I said to myself, if I don't report them, they will just keep playing and using their hac//ks and more and more of them will come. So I made it my mission to take multiple screen caps and send those in with the replay to the banhammer professionals. I would gather up 10 hac//k video's w/ atleast 3 screen caps of the hac//ker and send them in, did they all get banned, no, however I did have a 6 out of 10 success rate of getting them banned, and I made sure to tell them that I was the person reporting them, so it all worked out.

    As other people have said its up to the game owners to upgrade to a better hack shield program, and it's a f2p game.
  • They do work on hack patching but once one hack is patched, more is created. And the process goes on.
  • league of legends is f2p to but it doesn't have any hackers in it and is one of the most popular games out there so "because it is f2p" does not essentially mean that f2p games are easy to hack in.
  • league of legends is f2p to but it doesn't have any hackers in it and is one of the most popular games out there so "because it is f2p" does not essentially mean that f2p games are easy to hack in.

    That is right free stuff doesn't have to be poor quality especially since those providing the free game make huge sums of money, which makes the arguement of f2p kind of pointless - The company is not poor.

    I mean you wouldn't expect Open Office, Firefox, Chrome etc to crash all the time would you? and you wouldn't appeciate everyone spamming you on their support forums saying "well it's free".
  • Chimpzz wrote: »
    That is right free stuff doesn't have to be poor quality especially since those providing the free game make huge sums of money, which makes the arguement of f2p kind of pointless - The company is not poor.

    I mean you wouldn't expect Open Office, Firefox, Chrome etc to crash all the time would you? and you wouldn't appeciate everyone spamming you on their support forums saying "well it's free".

    You're comparing apples to oranges with another genre of game. You're also comparing apples to oranges with the type of company (riot is a developer and a publisher). And finally you're comparing apples to oranges to the size of each company. They are massive, comprised of both a development studio, a massive marketing team, a publishing division and whatever else it takes to run their operation in multiple parts of the world. We are not that size.

    One of Cross Fire's strengths is its accessibility for lower spec computers. This comes from the fact that the engine is not as taxing on the pc as some modern games.

    You cannot compare a console CoD game to Cross Fire. They are two completely different things, the only thing being similar is that they are first-person-shooters.

    Not to mention that the numbers of "illegitimate" copies of CoD probably outweigh the number of hackers in CF entirely. You say people don't hack CoD. It's newer, the engine is harder to hack. Plus the development team works closely during the various stages of development (which takes years in some cases) to ensure that it is difficult to hack. Can you hack it? Yes. Often times though those hacks result in bans. There are plenty of Horror stories of Valve banning thousands of accounts. We do that too. We just don't always advertise it.

    Not to mention that CoD is hacked every day. I'm sure there are people on this very forum who have played a torrented version of the game. And then they come here and complain about hackers in CF. The hypocrisy is unfortunate, but the fact remains that hacking is a serious problem in the entire games industry. And while it might be obvious in Cross Fire, when someone is 1-hitting you, it is an industry wide problem that we're all trying to deal with as best we can with the resources each of us have in front of us.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    You're comparing apples to oranges with another genre of game. You're also comparing apples to oranges with the type of company (riot is a developer and a publisher). And finally you're comparing apples to oranges to the size of each company. They are massive, comprised of both a development studio, a massive marketing team, a publishing division and whatever else it takes to run their operation in multiple parts of the world. We are not that size.

    One of Cross Fire's strengths is its accessibility for lower spec computers. This comes from the fact that the engine is not as taxing on the pc as some modern games.

    You cannot compare a console CoD game to Cross Fire. They are two completely different things, the only thing being similar is that they are first-person-shooters.

    Not to mention that the numbers of "illegitimate" copies of CoD probably outweigh the number of hackers in CF entirely. You say people don't hack CoD. It's newer, the engine is harder to hack. Plus the development team works closely during the various stages of development (which takes years in some cases) to ensure that it is difficult to hack. Can you hack it? Yes. Often times though those hacks result in bans. There are plenty of Horror stories of Valve banning thousands of accounts. We do that too. We just don't always advertise it.

    Not to mention that CoD is hacked every day. I'm sure there are people on this very forum who have played a torrented version of the game. And then they come here and complain about hackers in CF. The hypocrisy is unfortunate, but the fact remains that hacking is a serious problem in the entire games industry. And while it might be obvious in Cross Fire, when someone is 1-hitting you, it is an industry wide problem that we're all trying to deal with as best we can with the resources each of us have in front of us.

    I skimmed.
    There are hackers in literally every game on CF, Learn how to IP ban people.
    Blanket ban South America, since they have their own server, Make the game North American exclusive, That's about 85% of the hackers gone.
    Go go go go
  • Double post 'cause I aint shook.
    The only reason that I could see Z8 NOT blanket banning South America would be because they'd lose profit, Now that there's the South American servers, Why are they still on the servers based out of Canada? (That's in North America! :D)
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    You're comparing apples to oranges with another genre of game. You're also comparing apples to oranges with the type of company (riot is a developer and a publisher). And finally you're comparing apples to oranges to the size of each company. They are massive, comprised of both a development studio, a massive marketing team, a publishing division and whatever else it takes to run their operation in multiple parts of the world. We are not that size.

    One of Cross Fire's strengths is its accessibility for lower spec computers. This comes from the fact that the engine is not as taxing on the pc as some modern games.

    You cannot compare a console CoD game to Cross Fire. They are two completely different things, the only thing being similar is that they are first-person-shooters.

    Not to mention that the numbers of "illegitimate" copies of CoD probably outweigh the number of hackers in CF entirely. You say people don't hack CoD. It's newer, the engine is harder to hack. Plus the development team works closely during the various stages of development (which takes years in some cases) to ensure that it is difficult to hack. Can you hack it? Yes. Often times though those hacks result in bans. There are plenty of Horror stories of Valve banning thousands of accounts. We do that too. We just don't always advertise it.

    Not to mention that CoD is hacked every day. I'm sure there are people on this very forum who have played a torrented version of the game. And then they come here and complain about hackers in CF. The hypocrisy is unfortunate, but the fact remains that hacking is a serious problem in the entire games industry. And while it might be obvious in Cross Fire, when someone is 1-hitting you, it is an industry wide problem that we're all trying to deal with as best we can with the resources each of us have in front of us.

    You quoted the wrong person haha
  • tired of hackers

    srsly how long this gonna be???? i cant even play 1 hm game without hacers not to mention SND and TD, im tired of this,i understand that this may be not so easy but u can at least hire people who will ban all reported hacers for longer time like month or half year not 3 days ,because they starting hac again and again which is annoying to see same hacker every day 1-3 days and they just laugh about it, i miss old times when there wasnt so many hackers...
  • How long have z8games been working on the hack shield? Why don't they buy a hack shield from CoD etc etc. A hack shield can't be that expencive? Can it?
    If they get a better hack shield and stronger servers, the game would be perfect by now..
    As it seems, it will never be.
    Thanks by the laggy servers the reg is not working and when you shoot at one person and hit him, and he kills you? Now what the fack is that???
    It's to many hackers, this game is probably famous cuz it's so many hackers here..
    Please get stronger servers and a better hack shield 2012, please make this year a better year in crossfire!

    Yes, I agree with you, this game I really like, but it is not the only game TD, SD mutant, just anywhere where I could play just fine, Z8 games says, be patient, but how long??
  • I skimmed.
    There are hackers in literally every game on CF, Learn how to IP ban people.
    Blanket ban South America, since they have their own server, Make the game North American exclusive, That's about 85% of the hackers gone.
    Go go go go
    Double post 'cause I aint shook.
    The only reason that I could see Z8 NOT blanket banning South America would be because they'd lose profit, Now that there's the South American servers, Why are they still on the servers based out of Canada? (That's in North America! :D)

    I ask you to reread that post, it's well-versed frank statement of the actual reality.

    Nobody knows what's going to happen with CF LA, it's still in CB.
  • I skimmed.
    There are hackers in literally every game on CF, Learn how to IP ban people.
    Blanket ban South America, since they have their own server, Make the game North American exclusive, That's about 85% of the hackers gone.
    Go go go go
    They do implement IP bans, or at least they have. It did nothing.

    And I'm almost certain they won't ban SA from NA CF. They only banned other parts of the world because of licensing issues. Since they hold the license for both versions, nothing will be done.
  • Just_Brad wrote: »
    They do implement IP bans, or at least they have. It did nothing.

    And I'm almost certain they won't ban SA from NA CF. They only banned other parts of the world because of licensing issues. Since they hold the license for both versions, nothing will be done.

    There's not much point while CF SA is in Beta anyways.
  • Okay lets forget about the hacks, how about the website? It's dull, clan server always down, lagging out. Hit reg/netcode is poor and how the server perceives lag. It's optimized for ****ty computers, yet ****ty computers play on low-settings.

    Only improvements was the reduction to the head hitbox, that was when?
    Please enlighten me Saidin

    Edit: Gotta go play COD
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    There's not much point while CF SA is in Beta anyways.

    Implying it's going to happen? or is that a sweetener to keep everyone tight lipped and docile for a while on the BR issue?:p
  • Chimpzz wrote: »
    Implying it's going to happen? or is that a sweetener to keep everyone tight lipped and docile for a while on the BR issue?:p

    Every since Saidin fed us false information on the IP restriction I stopped believing and trusting anything he says.
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