M4 is now balanced.

It was overpowered before with too many people wallbanging and bursting special areas with insta box headshots in BW. I'm glad it's no longer overpowered.

Take that you skill-less m4 noobs. :)

-AK-47 for the mothaeffinwin win.
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  • How did they change it? There was no patch.
  • How did they change it? There was no patch.
    lol i was checking the cf now, i thought there was a patch xD and there was not

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  • They cant just change it without patch, or can they?

    300th post :)
  • sorry my friend but your the only noob here, i don't think many if any agree with you, M4 was a well ballenced weapon, it actually took skill, you could always tell the difference between a noob m4er and pro m4er, with scar l you can't.
  • lol i was checking the cf now, i thought there was a patch xD and there was not

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    Is it changed already, or is it going to be changed?

    So.... m4a1=less power AND no 1 shot through boxes anymore?

    What else got nerfed?
  • wth....one says underpowered, overpowered and now balanced?....
  • It is now 3 headshots through a box to kill, instead of 1. Thank you Z8games.

    All you need to do now is make it 2 shots headshot long range and I'll play this game for the rest of my life XD
  • CNNikita wrote: »
    It is now 3 headshots through a box to kill, instead of 1. Thank you Z8games.

    All you need to do now is make it 2 shots headshot long range and I'll play this game for the rest of my life XD

    someone got owned by an M4 way to much. It was never OP, if they do make it 2 shot k0 from distance im sure many will quit You sir have noobitus.
  • M4 was never overpowered?
    That brings back memories of Open Beta.
  • Ok. The m4 has a descent spray with ok damage. The scar light is still a lot better yet they still chose to nerf the worse gun. Look at the damage on the m4 and compare it to the scar light. Why would you nerf this gun?
  • K look. M4 is not meant as a body shot weapon. It's meant as a headshot weapon, but being the S&D pros that you all are, I'm sure you all knew that. M4 was overpowered because IT WAS THE ONLY RIFLE that you could actually spam special spots on certain maps and get headshots/wallkills as well as do wallbangs with. You can't do that with any other gun. This made the weapon the primary choice for clan wars.

    Some people however, used it because it was basically a scar light that can spray. Lucky Undeserved Headshots. You get the idea.

    Now that it's just like every other rifle where wall shots are a lot more reasonable, this game has become a lot more balanced, mainly the competative portion of it.
  • next thing will be changing the AWM into a dragonov >=\ or worse, changing the ak47 into a ak74!!!
  • AznBoySam wrote: »
    next thing will be changing the AWM into a dragonov >=\ or worse, changing the ak47 into a ak74!!!

    Oh man.

    I'm gonna have like nightmares about that tonight D:
  • Just got back from snow shoveling, yes it's snowing now and hard too. Here's what I have to say
    CNNikita wrote: »
    M4 was overpowered because IT WAS THE ONLY RIFLE that you could actually spam special spots on certain maps and get headshots/wallkills as well as do wallbangs with. This made the weapon the primary choice for clan wars.

    First of all you cannot spam spots in the hope to shoot someone across the map anymore, that was removed from the gameplay weeks ago.

    Second you can wallbang through crates and boxes with every weapon in the game; Rifle, SMG, Sniper so you are incorrect there sir.

    Third the reason players use the M4 is because of it's influence from counter-strike/cod4 but also due to the fact that it's the best starter weapon in this game.
    CNNikita wrote: »
    Some people however, used it because it was basically a scar light that can spray. Lucky Undeserved Headshots. You get the idea.

    Compare two players who are spraying one with the scar-light and one with the M4, you will find that the result is quite different from your current statement. The scar-light has the first 4 shots before recoil kicks in, the M4 has 3 and the AK has 2.

    When you spray wrong with an M4 you will have to drag the crosshair and correct it or the spray pattern shall punish you however with the scar-light there is little punishment for screwing up, you simply move the crosshair and let the easy spray pattern do it's job.
    CNNikita wrote: »
    Now that it's just like every other rifle where wall shots are a lot more reasonable, this game has become a lot more balanced, mainly the competative portion of it.

    So your saying every top tier gun should be nerfed so that it requires two headshots through a box, aiming for the head is a very important skill that later on becomes fluent. When evaluating if a weapon is balanced you shouldn't concentrate on the headshot capability through boxes, you should concentrate on the recoil, rate of fire, power and accuracy.

    To me, you come across as an extremely arrogant, bratty, selfish player with some stupid vendetta over a weapon that's hardly considered overpowered by the majority of the competitive players. You tease the overall better/wiser/older players in your original post, the whole sh1t with "take that you skill-less M4 noobs" just confirms you are some butthurt kid looking to start a fight you couldn't finish.

    I've never seen you or your team participate in cf-pug/draft tourneys, VSGL or even the autumn assault tournament, I have to say nipple is a better person then you are atm, atleast he wouldn't go as far as to claim the competitive side is better with this change.

    You are wrong, GG.
  • CNNikita wrote: »
    K look. M4 is not meant as a body shot weapon. It's meant as a headshot weapon, but being the S&D pros that you all are, I'm sure you all knew that. M4 was overpowered because IT WAS THE ONLY RIFLE that you could actually spam special spots on certain maps and get headshots/wallkills as well as do wallbangs with. You can't do that with any other gun. This made the weapon the primary choice for clan wars.

    Some people however, used it because it was basically a scar light that can spray. Lucky Undeserved Headshots. You get the idea.

    Now that it's just like every other rifle where wall shots are a lot more reasonable, this game has become a lot more balanced, mainly the competative portion of it.

    Okay let a real S&D pro get in this conversation. After myself and Blitzd inventing the famous cat spam spot on black widow from CT spawn (was back in May/June), I can tell you that personally the AK47 can spam the exact same spots as an m4, it may not be as accurate but it it most definitely possible.
    Secondly, even if that theory was true (which it isnt) no pro player will pick a gun primarily over another gun for "clan wars" because it can "spam" someone.. Quite frankly, the last thing on a pro players mind is "I'm picking this gun because it can shoot through walls".
    I don't mean to dissect your reply but you should not be preaching and putting people down based on your experience...
  • Sigh, here we go again.

    Even though you can wallbang with any weapon, the most effectiveness comes from the M4 BEFORE the recent update because of the equal damage to hitboxes between body and head. Most game kills are not box kills so this only REALLY affects competative gameplay.

    Look I don't really care who you are nor who you think you are but let me tell you what I think of the M4 user.

    There are too many of them. You can barely tell the difference between a pro m4er and a nooby crouch+spray m4er because sometimes they kill the target with equal speed. It is way too easy to use and the fear clan abuses it to the point that it's become a chinese trademark because when they squint their fail eyes all they see on the screen is a bunch of heads. Barely. They try to click these heads. You want a cookie?

    The competative side of crossfire IS better with this change. I've grown tired of getting box-hs on Blackwidow long range.

    I'm glad you've summed up the courage to pack as many insults that you could think of and completely ruin your at-first respectful post into a hate post. Good Job Mr. Compensation. How's Life? Oh wait. Do I really need to ask? lol

    GG my fellow gamer. Let's not forget this is a forum made for a bad game. Let's not forget you embarrass yourself when attempting to insult strangers online hoping it'll make you feel better about what you lack.

    Not even a game. Barely a forum. Just an idea on a semi-forum.

    Five more minutes Mom. Somebody on the internet is wrong.

    I hope to god you are under 16, if not you have some work to do. And no it does not involve thinking of more insults in your next post but I realize that may have been your first impulse little boy.

    Next.

    Note: This post was directed towards dploy. Not Malte.

    Hey Malte, I'll consider your words of wisdom :P
  • CNNikita wrote: »
    Sigh, here we go again.

    Even though you can wallbang with any weapon, the most effectiveness comes from the M4 BEFORE the recent update because of the equal damage to hitboxes between body and head. Most game kills are not box kills so this only REALLY affects competative gameplay.

    Look I don't really care who you are nor who you think you are but let me tell you what I think of the M4 user.

    There are too many of them. You can barely tell the difference between a pro m4er and a nooby crouch+spray m4er because sometimes they kill the target with equal speed. It is way too easy to use and the fear clan abuses it to the point that it's become a chinese trademark because when they squint their fail eyes all they see on the screen is a bunch of heads. Barely. They try to click these heads. You want a cookie?

    The competative side of crossfire IS better with this change. I've grown tired of getting box-hs on Blackwidow long range.

    I'm glad you've summed up the courage to pack as many insults that you could think of and completely ruin your at-first respectful post into a hate post. Good Job Mr. Compensation. How's Life? Oh wait. Do I really need to ask? lol

    GG my fellow gamer. Let's not forget this is a forum made for a bad game. Let's not forget you embarrass yourself when attempting to insult strangers online hoping it'll make you feel better about what you lack.

    Not even a game. Barely a forum. Just an idea on a semi-forum.

    Five more minutes Mom. Somebody on the internet is wrong.

    I hope to god you are under 16, if not you have some work to do. And no it does not involve thinking of more insults in your next post but I realize that may have been your first impulse little boy.

    Next.

    So what do you use? You go around spraying with that overpowered noob cannon scar light? Every nubs dream gun tbh.
  • I use the Ak-47. Yes? You were saying something? Lmao.
  • LOL! You say there is noobs spraying body shots etc etc with the m4? Watch some noobs play with ak. Not saying ak is bad, i use it some myself.
  • CNNikita wrote: »
    [...]

    Now that it's just like every other rifle where wall shots are a lot more reasonable, this game has become a lot more balanced, mainly the competative portion of it.

    When did that happen?

    And... CrossFire won't be balanced until they nerf the SCAR Light.
    (In Real Life FAMAS would be over M4 and SCAR Light, anyone that has even shot them knows it).


    PS: I think someone shall start a thread to make G4B0X nerf the SL, such as stoolY did with the Silver AK.
  • They nerved the M4?:(But it was never owerpowered!?
  • TheChosk wrote: »
    They nerved the M4?:(But it was never owerpowered!?

    Yes..
    Im ****ed too.. grrrr
    M4 is now underpowered.. no one is gonna play with m4 now.
    m4 pros sprayer and wallbanger ( like me :D) use ak-scope, xm8, type 89.

    HATE m4 now... F************************
  • Scoyd wrote: »
    When did that happen?

    And... CrossFire won't be balanced until they nerf the SCAR Light.
    (In Real Life FAMAS would be over M4 and SCAR Light, anyone that has even shot them knows it).


    PS: I think someone shall start a thread to make G4B0X nerf the SL, such as stoolY did with the Silver AK.

    So nerf every guns..?
    Z8 should work on guns.. because in the game guns are overpowered and in real life FAMAS is pro.... in CF its sh1t.
  • With all due respect, I believe people should spend less of their time raging about guns being underpowered etc. and spend more of their time turning something from nothing and mastering the gun from the get-go (See myself using the AK-47 for 10 months now, even when the gun was hardly used). I'm glad I influenced a lot of people in the process as well, but it just takes time and patience to work with guns.
  • Malte unlike other games, 50% of Cf guns simply cannot be used competatively. I mean, I used to use my shotgun on blackwidow to embarrass pro clans but I've recently stopped since armor nerfs the shotgun ridiculously. Really, Armor nerfs Shotgun damage in half and makes the Kriss feel like an Uzi >.>
  • lol i didn t remark it. or i couldnt. cuz there was no patch???
  • XErickXx wrote: »
    They cant just change it without patch, or can they?

    300th post :)

    From before when they put in halloween I noticed trying to do box shots.... wouldnt work as well