Hackers Are Important
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It is a simile...The fact that you think a moderator who will intervene in minor conflict of opinions on a forum website should be given the title of "HERO" says allot, you need to set your "HERO" standard a bit higher ...
definition of " HERO " ...
he·roes
1. In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods.
2. A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life:
LoL so which MOD we talking about ...??????
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Why is it so important for you (for us) to have heros or moderators? I worked a few years in a forum as supermoderator and took part in discussions, exchanged some music and whatever an average forumer does. There weren't many problems so my role was not needed. There is nothing bad about it.
When there where no moderators / gamemasters then it would mean the game met perfection. That is impossible because it would be paradoxical. It would mean the game wouldn't change anymore and therefor become boring. So it would not be perfect.
I still have to agree with you in some parts. But there really is no reason that moderators or gamemasters are as important as you say. You can simply remove them when they are useless. The only important thing is a continous process of positive developement. But the title "hackers are important" is just an empty provoking phrase to me. It is wrong.
You can emprove the game in several ways. You don't need hackers. You neither need "QQ threads". You just need some bugs/glitches that are reported and fixed regularly. Maybe you emprove the weapon ballance and so on.
To come back to your allegory. In my scenario every player who helps to emprove the game would be a hero. The villian would be the game itself. I know it does not really fit but you choosed it
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Quality not quantiy is important. A long text often means that you can't find the right words. Especially in philosophy you will often deal with that problem. -
I've already addressed what I meant by "Hero".The fact that you think a moderator who will intervene in minor conflict of opinions on a forum website should be given the title of "HERO" says allot, you need to set your "HERO" standard a bit higher ...
definition of " HERO " ...
he·roes
1. In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods.
2. A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life:
LoL so which MOD we talking about ...?????? -
If the world we lived in was perfect, there would be no need for police, no need for war, and no need for conflict. But this isn't a perfect world.
To control those outspoken individuals who believe they have every right to whatever they damn well please, there needs to be an established police.
It's not about heros, it's about control.
Yea, hero, control, same thing. A hero controls the villains. By controls, I mean deals with, which is what a Hero does. -
I've already addressed what I meant by "Hero".
By the way, I didn't mention this earlier, but your conception that what goes on here in flawed.
You write it as if everything is clearly stated in black and white...it's not everything is a gray mix, the situation changes and the good of our society can easily become the bad. Ever see people repenting about their hacking before? I have and those people are put through hell.
Right now you are relatively younger than myself so I'll give a piece of valuable advice, don't look at everything in two shades of color, realize that there are differing perspectives that contribute to a whole graying out of things.
A hero to some could be a evil scoundrel to another, and a villian could be seen as a benevolent saint at the same time. It's important to realize this. So you people know hackers are people, even though they fell into a an abyss of under-achieving, it doesn't change the fact they they are people like yourself, in a sense. -
Yes, I can agree they are people, in real life, but in Crossfire, they are considered the Villain. I wasn't referring to real life, so where did you get that sentence?Cold_Inside wrote: »By the way, I didn't mention this earlier, but your conception that what goes on here in flawed.
You write it as if everything is clearly stated in black and white...it's not everything is a gray mix, the situation changes and the good of our society can easily become the bad. Ever see people repenting about their hacking before? I have and those people are put through hell.
Right now you are relatively younger than myself so I'll give a piece of valuable advice, don't look at everything in two shades of color, realize that there are differing perspectives that contribute to a whole graying out of things.
A hero to some could be a evil scoundrel to another, and a villian could be seen as a benevolent saint at the same time. It's important to realize this. So you people know hackers are people, even though they fell into a an abyss of under-achieving, it doesn't change the fact they they are people like yourself, in a sense. -
Yes, I can agree they are people, in real life, but in Crossfire, they are considered the Villain. I wasn't referring to real life, so where did you get that sentence?
It doesn't matter Crossfire isn't "real" it's a game.
What I'm saying is people forget that everyone on those pixelated screens that the people they interact with are actual people. You wouldn't just walk up and call a fellow who you see a villian for violating a small time rule now would you? -
Cold_Inside wrote: »It doesn't matter Crossfire isn't "real" it's a game.
What I'm saying is people forget that everyone on those pixelated screens that the people they interact with are actual people. You wouldn't just walk up and call a fellow who you see a villian for violating a small time rule now would you?
Considering that you just stated that it's not a real life game, then it doesn't matter if the person behind the screen is being insulted by having a name like "Hacker", or Villain.
As you have previously stated, the internet will always have conflicts, and they chose the path of being a hacker, which means they knew what was coming on their way, such as alot of hate, vote kicks, name calling, etc... They obviously don't care since they knew what was in store for them, which considers them the Villain for going on the negative path. -
You do realize book plots and real life aren't parallels, right?Yea, hero, control, same thing. A hero controls the villains. By controls, I mean deals with, which is what a Hero does.
Also, I'd like to take a moment to point out your terrible sentence structure in all of your posts. You should work on that. -
Considering that you just stated that it's not a real life game, then it doesn't matter if the person behind the screen is being insulted by having a name like "Hacker", or Villain.
As you have previously stated, the internet will always have conflicts, and they chose the path of being a hacker, which means they knew what was coming on their way, such as alot of hate, vote kicks, name calling, etc... They obviously don't care since they knew what was in store for them, which considers them the Villain for going on the negative path.
Yea but that's just one side of things, you shouldn't only observe that side, see things from other perspectives. Like why would they hack in the first place, or why would they bother playing to begin with if they were just going to hack it.
Some actually care, and believe it or not dl 'em just to fight other rackers, odd but I know people... -
You do realize book plots and real life aren't parallels, right?
Also, I'd like to take a moment to point out your terrible sentence structure in all of your posts. You should work on that.
Sentence structure? You obviously don't get the main point of the thread. It's not to prove who can type the best sentences, it's an argument, and don't bring sentence structure into a topic about hackers and why they are important.
And yes, I do know book plots and real life aren't parallels, but the Hero is referring to the Moderators, Game Moderators, etc...
The Villains are referring to the conflicts, illegal program users, etc...
There's a certain way you're suppose to have an argument.
A respectful way. Acknowledge others' opinions, and use respectful vocabulary.
Why are you getting so mad over an argument? An argument has agreements, and disagreements. Deal with it. -
When was I ever mad? I just don't respect arrogance. The defense from open discussion is where I'm getting these assumptions.
And you're contradicting yourself by saying you identify real life and book plots as not being parallels, then comparing the two. -
When was I ever mad? I just don't respect arrogance. The defense from open discussion is where I'm getting these assumptions.
And you're contradicting yourself by saying you identify real life and book plots as not being parallels, then comparing the two.
I'm comparing Hero and Villain to Crossfire. You're just mixing up yourself. -
If you want a more established argument, I can make one.I'm comparing Hero and Villain to Crossfire. You're just mixing up yourself.
And you aren't comparing a hero and villain to Crossfire, you are comparing them to officials running the forum/game to the cheaters and hackers. -
The title of your thread states that hackers are important. This is 100% not true.
You say that without hackers, there would be no need for us. That is 100% not true.
There will still be support questions, general questions and general moderation that will ALWAYS happen. Forums will always need moderators for day-to-day activities, even if hacks didn't exist. People are still going to argue over nothing and troll over nothing. That's human nature. The context of your post saying that hackers are important and thus needed for us to exist? Wrong. Absolutely wrong. -
No, they're not bloody important. This is a game, not life. There would still be mods to help out with every day stuff, not to close a thread complaining about the huge amount of hackers. You talk about conflict, yes of course there is conflict but it's not all about hackers. And even then, it really isn't needed. Everybody knows. And yeah, nobody but english teachers care about your fancy writing. You come at it from a different angle then most people, and I happen to disagree with you. Though what I think doesn't matter at all. But yeah, this thread shows how naive you are.
tl;dr no you're wrong
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seriously..i have no idea how you even consider hackers to be a essential thing that is needed for crossfire..im so sick and tired of hackers..i honestly quit crossfire today..i've played two hours,TWO today.guess what?every match,Every,Single Match,their were hackers in it..how can you even have that kind of a Statement?do you Honestly Think that hackers are needed?its gotten out of control.and seriously,i dont see how anybody can rely on that thread..i'm sorry,but honestly,crossfire,its done.their are jsut too many hackers to solve them all anymore.
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Considering that you just stated that it's not a real life game, then it doesn't matter if the person behind the screen is being insulted by having a name like "Hacker", or Villain.
As you have previously stated, the internet will always have conflicts, and they chose the path of being a hacker, which means they knew what was coming on their way, such as alot of hate, vote kicks, name calling, etc... They obviously don't care since they knew what was in store for them, which considers them the Villain for going on the negative path.
First off all i'm getting out of this thread is a story about a kid that just learned something new and thinks that he/she has to use it at every chance possible.
Secondly i would say about 80%-90% of hackers don't think hacking is a bad/negative thing, ask any of the foreign(non-US/UK/Canadian) hackers and they will most likely tell you if it was illegal to use then why was it made if it wasn't to be used.
All hackers are just lazy and/or ignorant people that would rather let a program provide them their skill instead of learning for themselves. -
You guys are missing some parts of my post. I did state conflict, did I not? Conflict is not only addressed to illegal program usage.
The title of your thread suggests that your overall idea is about hackers being important, which is completely wrong. Your whole "section" about hackers being important, is completely wrong. -
omfg is this kid for real ha,,ckers will never be important mods have plenty of other things they can do as well as the GMs it boggles my mind how stupid some people are this type of thread is what they will be moderating if ha..ckers were gone good bye have a nice day
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »The title of your thread suggests that your overall idea is about hackers being important, which is completely wrong. Your whole "section" about hackers being important, is completely wrong.
This.
OP: And you're callin mods heroes ? Hahaha ;D I bet they liked to hear that. -
We know we're not saving kittens or shoot web.This.
OP: And you're callin mods heroes ? Hahaha ;D I bet they liked to hear that.
Hes using heroes as the opposite to villain, in reality moderator opposite to cheater/people needing help.
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