GodsGunman's Cross Fire Weapons Guide (VBeta0.2)
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May I give some formatting input? Please make it easier to differentiate the different lengths that the gun is being shot from. Like:
~5 Meters
blah
blah
~10 Meters
etc.
Would make thing's much easier to read
I'm in the midst of changing every single spot that it shows a distance to be like this (the colour will be the same as the type of gun, in this case it's blue because these are rifles), think it will suffice? If not that's too bad and I don't care. lol
M4A1
~~5 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 30, 29.
Foot/Leg: 20, 20.
Back/Chest: 36, 35.
Headshot: 100.
~~15 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 29, 29.
Foot/Leg: 20, 20.
Back/Chest: 35, 35.
Headshot: 100
~~30 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 28, 28.
Foot/Leg: 19, 20.
Back/Chest: 34, 34.
Headshot: 100.
~~100 meters Headshot~~
Headshot: 100.
Reload Time: 2.4 Seconds
Fire Rate: 10.7 Rounds Per Second (RPS)
Bullets: 30/90
Total Bullets: 120
Full to Empty Clip: 2.8 Seconds
DPS: 299.6
M4A1-Custom
~~5 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 30, 30.
Foot/Leg: 21, 21.
Back/Chest: 36, 37.
Headshot: 100.
~~15 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 30, 29, 30.
Foot/Leg: 20, 20, 21.
Back/Chest: 36, 36, 36.
Headshot: 100
~~30 meters~~
Hand/Arm: 29, 29.
Foot/Leg: 20, 20.
Back/Chest: 35, 35.
Headshot: 100.
~~100 meters Headshot~~
Headshot: 100.
Reload Time: 2.4 Seconds
Fire Rate: 10.3 Rounds Per Second (RPS)
Bullets: 35/105
Total Bullets: 140
Full to Empty Clip: 3.4 Seconds
DPS: 294.6:eek: ¡Good job!
thanks
I'm trying to get a MOD's attention so that they can edit the guide and update it for me, already PMed 2 of them but it seems they're all either AFK or offline right now. Maybe I'll have better luck tomorrow. -
The guide has been updated to Version Beta 0.2
The guide was updated today by [MOD]us3r, here's all of the changes:
-Mauser bullets changed from 15/45 to 15/30
-Desert Eagle: changed the full to empty clip of the desert eagle from 1.6 to 1.5, consequently changed the RPS from 4.4 to 4.7. Also fixed the damages and fixed the DPS.
-Golden Desert Eagle: Added in the statistics
-M4A1: Added in the statistics
-M4A1-Adv: Added in the statistics
-Golden AK-47: Added in the statistics
-SCAR LIGHT: Added in the statistics
-G36K: Added Damage & Statistics
-D.E.-WCG: Added Damage & Statistics
-Mk23 S.: Added Damage & Statistics
-M14EBR: Added Damage & Statistics
-Dual Uzi Pink: Added Damage & Statistics
Added a new format to make it easier to read the guide, now every time there's a distance it's the same colour as that type of weapon.
Also added a new feature; DPS. DPS shows how much Damage Per Second each gun does, if you want to see how this is calculated view this thread where I rank each gun:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=166032 -
Very nice job, the only problem is accessing the information quickly and easily. That's why I want to make a graphical version of your guide, easier to read, regrouping everything related to one weapon in one image. I'll do an example, and if you find it good enough, I could do the rest.
It's looking like that so far :
Please note that it's a WIP, especially the bottom part. I will add the weapon's picture, RoF, DPS and other info on another side or top/bottom panel. Tell me what you think and if I should keep working on it. -
Hells_Judge wrote: »Very nice job, the only problem is accessing the information quickly and easily. That's why I want to make a graphical version of your guide, easier to read, regrouping everything related to one weapon in one image. I'll do an example, and if you find it good enough, I could do the rest.
It's looking like that so far :
Please note that it's a WIP, especially the bottom part. I will add the weapon's picture, RoF, DPS and other info on another side or top/bottom panel. Tell me what you think and if I should keep working on it.
The arms are their own hit box.
Head, upper chest, belly, arms, and lags are the hit boxes. -
Hells_Judge wrote: »Very nice job, the only problem is accessing the information quickly and easily. That's why I want to make a graphical version of your guide, easier to read, regrouping everything related to one weapon in one image. I'll do an example, and if you find it good enough, I could do the rest.
It's looking like that so far :
Please note that it's a WIP, especially the bottom part. I will add the weapon's picture, RoF, DPS and other info on another side or top/bottom panel. Tell me what you think and if I should keep working on it.
Interesting, I'm not sure how useful it would be though, if anything it would make the guide harder to go through because with text you can copy paste if you want to compare different weapons, with images it's a little bit harder, and if you have some text and some images it gets to be a pain to compare guns.
I think you're right though, I was eventually going to add pictures anyways but this may be the kickstart of working on that. Pictures will hopefully make the guide a bit easier to go through.
As for when you said making a graphical version would make it easier to access the information, I'm not sure if that's correct or not. I think text is fairly easy to go through, I could rearrange guns alphabetically within their types if that would help. What do you think?The arms are their own hit box.
Head, upper chest, belly, arms, and lags are the hit boxes.
No, Hells_Judge is right, upper body and arms do the same amount of damage :P
quoted from the guide:
There are five different damage areas on each character:
1. Below the waist (which I call Foot/Leg), butt counts as foot/leg too.
2. The upper half of the body, arms and hands(which I call Hand/Arm). Note that the upper half of the body does the same amount of damage as hands/arms. A back/chest shot is referring to lower back/chest(so stomache-ish).
3. The lower half of the body (which I call back/chest).
4. A regular (white) headshot (I try to get them as often as possible except when I say golden headshot).
5. A golden headshot (I almost never try to get these and if I do it will be shown). Golden headshots don’t do much more damage than regular headshots(up to about 5), so it shouldn’t matter much. -
BowDownToMe wrote: »Interesting, I'm not sure how useful it would be though, if anything it would make the guide harder to go through because with text you can copy paste if you want to compare different weapons, with images it's a little bit harder, and if you have some text and some images it gets to be a pain to compare guns.
You make good points with your copy/pasting and comparing. And I can understand having both text and image could be heavy and counterproductive.
I'll finish at least one image for a weapon as an example and see what you want to do with it, i.e. include images in your guide directly or as links, create another guide with only images, create a Pdf regrouping all the images and add its link here, etc.BowDownToMe wrote: »I think you're right though, I was eventually going to add pictures anyways but this may be the kickstart of working on that. Pictures will hopefully make the guide a bit easier to go through.
Keep in mind though that you can only add up to 10 images per post. Unless a Mod/GM can change that limitation for a particular thread, it could be problematic as you often have more than 10 weapons in the same post.BowDownToMe wrote: »I could rearrange guns alphabetically within their types if that would help. What do you think?
Having them rearranged by alphabetical order would help I think. Another suggestion is to have a table of contents in the first post with a link to the corresponding post for each part, something like that :
Rifles Part 1
- M4A1
- M4A1-Custom
- M4A1-Spring
- etc.
Rifles Part 2
- AK-47
- AK 47 X-mas
- AK 47-Camo
- etc.
Rifles Part 3
- QBZ-95
- Scar Light
- etc.
Easy to add, make finding a weapon much faster. -
Hells_Judge wrote: »You make good points with your copy/pasting and comparing. And I can understand having both text and image could be heavy and counterproductive.
I'll finish at least one image for a weapon as an example and see what you want to do with it, i.e. include images in your guide directly or as links, create another guide with only images, create a Pdf regrouping all the images and add its link here, etc.
Keep in mind though that you can only add up to 10 images per post. Unless a Mod/GM can change that limitation for a particular thread, it could be problematic as you often have more than 10 weapons in the same post.
Having them rearranged by alphabetical order would help I think. Another suggestion is to have a table of contents in the first post with a link to the corresponding post for each part, something like that :
Rifles Part 1
- M4A1
- M4A1-Custom
- M4A1-Spring
- etc.
Rifles Part 2
- AK-47
- AK 47 X-mas
- AK 47-Camo
- etc.
Rifles Part 3
- QBZ-95
- Scar Light
- etc.
Easy to add, make finding a weapon much faster.
Yeah a finished version or two would be good, keep in mind you would have to do it for 100+ weapons if I like it and you agree though :P
I really doubt that a MOD can change the amount of pictures that we can add per post, however they themselves may be able to add more than 10 and they're the ones editing it anyways. If I were to add pictures directly to the guide they would be very small.
Working on the table of contents right now, added Hells_Judge to the list of people to thank. -
changelog(private)
I'm now working on verifying that the stats that I got are correct, to do this I'm going through each weapon one by one and checking their reload time and empty clip time. They are truly verified correct up to 0.04 seconds for the reload time, and 0.02 seconds for the full to empty clip time. The DPS and RPS are derived from those two and the amount of bullets that the weapon has in each magazine.
I know that the time is verified because I recorded each weapon with fraps at 100 Frames Per Second unloading a clip and reloading, and from there I used Sony Vegas Pro 10 (here I reduced the FPS to 50) to go frame by frame and record what I saw.
There are some instances with variants of the same weapon that have been proven to have the same reload time that I didn't test myself, you can see what I'm talking about at www.youtube.com/crossfiredatabase
The first two weapons to be 100% verified are the M4A1-Adv and the Golden AK-47.
VERIFIED:
Changed M4A1-Adv Full to empty clip time from 3.2 to 3.400
Changed M4A1-Adv RPS from 10.9 to 10.294
Changed M4A1-Adv DPS from 305.2 to 288.232
Changed M4A1-Adv reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed Golden AK-47 Full to empty clip time from 3.8 to 3.7
Changed Golden AK-47 RPS from 10.0 to 10.270
Changed Golden AK-47 DPS from 323.3 to 332.063
Changed Golden AK-47 reload time from 2.1 to 2.060
Verified some of the reload times:
Changed Golden M4A1 reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed Golden M4A1 (Tiger) reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed M4A1 reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed M4A1-A Silver reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed M4A1-Custom reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed M4A1-S Crystal reload time from 2.4 to 2.400
Changed M4A1 Custom Crystal reload time from 2.3 to 2.400 -
changelog (private)
VERIFIED:
Changed M4A1-S Crystal Full to empty clip time from 2.7 to 2.900
Changed M4A1-S Crystal RPS from 11.1 to 10.345
Changed M4A1-S Crystal DPS from 320.1 to 298.281
Changed M4A1 Custom Crystal Full to empty clip time from 3.2 to 3.040
Changed M4A1 Custom Crystal RPS from 10.9 to 11.513
Changed M4A1 Custom Crystal DPS from 279.8 to 295.500
Changed M4A-E Full to empty clip time from 3.2 to 3.380
Changed M4A1-E RPS from 10.9 to 10.355
Changed M4A1-E DPS from 316.1 to 300.295
Changed M4A1-E reload time from 2.3 to 2.400
Changed M4A1-A Silver Full to empty clip time from 3.4 to 3.400
Changed M4A1-A Silver RPS from 10.3 to 10.294
Changed M4A1-A Silver DPS from 298.7 to 298.526
Changed Golden M4A1 Full to empty clip time from 3.7 to 3.700
Changed Golden M4A1 RPS from 10.3 to 10.270
Changed Golden M4A1 DPS from 288.4 to 287.560
Changed M4A1 Full to empty clip time from 2.8 to 2.900
Changed M4A1 RPS from 10.7 to 10.345
Changed M4A1 DPS from 299.6 to 289.660 -
changelog (private)
VERIFIED:
Changed AK 47 Silver Full to empty clip time from 3.8 to 3.380
Changed AK 47 Silver RPS from 9.2 to 10.355
Changed AK 47 Silver DPS from 299 to 336.538
Changed AK 47 Silver reload time from 2.1 to 2.080
Changed AK 47-Camo Full to empty clip time from 3.6 to 3.400
Changed AK 47-Camo RPS from 9.7 to 10.294
Changed AK 47-Camo DPS from 315.3 to 334.555
Changed AK 47-Camo reload time from 2.0 to 2.100
Changed AK-47 Knife Full to empty clip time from 4.1 to 4.080
Changed AK-47 Knife RPS from 8.5 to 8.578
Changed AK-47 Knife DPS from 274.8 to 277.355
Changed AK-47 Knife reload time from 2.0 to 2.080
Changed AK 47 X-mas Full to empty clip time from 3.7 to 3.420
Changed AK 47 X-mas RPS from 9.5 to 10.234
Changed AK 47 X-mas DPS from 308.1 to 331.923
Changed AK 47 X-mas reload time from 2.1 to 2.080
Changed AK-47 Full to empty clip time from 3.1 to 2.900
Changed AK-47 RPS from 9.7 to 10.345
Changed AK-47 DPS from 316.9 to 337.937
Changed AK-47 reload time from 2.0 to 2.080
Added AK-47 Scope Full to empty clip time
Added AK-47 Scope RPS
Added AK-47 Scope DPS
Added AK-47 Scope reload time
Changed M4A1-Spring Full to empty clip time from 3.4 to 3.400
Changed M4A1-Spring RPS from 10.3 to 10.294
Changed M4A1-Spring DPS from 295.3 to 295.095
Changed M4A1-Spring reload time from 2.0 to 2.040
Changed Kriss Super V Full to empty clip time from 2.6 to 2.720
Changed Kriss Super V RPS from 13.5 to 12.868
Changed Kriss Super V DPS from 288 to 274.517
Changed Kriss Super V reload time from 2.3 to 2.280
Changed Kriss-Halloween Full to empty clip time from 3.2 to 3.120
Changed Kriss-Halloween RPS from 12.5 to 12.821
Changed Kriss-Halloween DPS from 266.7 to 273.515
Changed Kriss-Halloween reload time from 2.3 to 2.280
Changed MP5-Adv Full to empty clip time from 3.1 to 3.120
Changed MP5-Adv RPS from 12.9 to 12.821
Changed MP5-Adv DPS from 251.6 to 250.010
Changed MP5-Adv reload time from 1.7 to 1.700
Changed MP5 Full to empty clip time from 2.5 to 2.320
Changed MP5 RPS from 12.0 to 12.931
Changed MP5 DPS from 228.0 to 245.689
Changed MP5 reload time from 1.7 to 1.700
Changed P90 Full to empty clip time from 3.6 to 3.920
Changed P90 RPS from 13.9 to 12.755
Changed P90 DPS from 227.0 to 208.332
Changed P90 reload time from 3.5 to 3.660
Changed RPK Full to empty clip time from 8.7 to 8.680
Changed RPK RPS from 9.2 to 9.217
Changed RPK DPS from 270.0 to 270.356
Changed RPK reload time from 3.3 to 3.360
Changed RPK-Camo Full to empty clip time from 12.1 to 12.540
Changed RPK-Camo RPS from 9.5 to 9.171
Changed RPK-Camo DPS from 280.3 to 270.545
Changed RPK-Camo reload time from 3.3 to 3.360
Changed RPK-Gold Full to empty clip time from 12.5 to 13.100
Changed RPK-Gold RPS from 9.6 to 9.160
Changed RPK-Gold DPS from 283.2 to 270.220
Changed RPK-Gold reload time from 3.1 to 3.160
Changed XM8 Full to empty clip time from 3.0 to 2.900
Changed XM8 RPS from 10.0 to 10.345
Changed XM8 DPS from 283.3 to 293.108
Changed XM8 reload time from 2.1 to 2.080
Changed XM8-Adv Full to empty clip time from 3.6 to 3.400
Changed XM8-Adv RPS from 9.7 to 10.294
Changed XM8-Adv DPS from 273.2 to 289.948
Changed XM8-Adv reload time from 2.1 to 2.080
Added SCAR Heavy Full to empty clip time
Added SCAR Heavy RPS
Added SCAR Heavy DPS
Added SCAR Heavy reload time
Changed Scar Light Full to empty clip time from 2.9 to 2.900
Changed Scar Light RPS from 10.3 to 10.345
Changed Scar Light DPS from 300.4 to 301.729
Changed Scar Light reload time from 2.4 to 2.160 -
changelog (private)
VERIFIED
Changed M16s-Camo Full to empty clip time from 3.4 to 3.420
Changed M16s-Camo RPS from 10.3 to 10.234
Changed M16s-Camo DPS from 257.5 to 255.850
Changed M16s-Camo reload time from 2.9 to 2.840
Changed M16 Full to empty clip time from 3.2 to 2.900
Changed M16 RPS from 9.4 to 10.345
Changed M16 DPS from 234.1 to 257.591
Changed M16 reload time from 3.0 to 2.860
Changed M16A2 Full to empty clip time from 3.5 to 3.420
Changed M16A2 RPS from 10.0 to 10.234
Changed M16A2 DPS from 290.0 to 296.786
Changed M16A2 reload time from 2.9 to 2.800
Changed Winchester Full to empty clip time from 8.4 to 8.120
Changed Winchester RPS from 1.4 to 1.478
Changed Winchester DPS from 101.7 to 107.401
Changed Winchester reload time from 1.0 (per bullet) to 0.860 (per bullet)
Added Winchester Full to empty clip time
Added Winchester RPS
Added Winchester DPS
Added Winchester reload time
Changed M14EBR Full to empty clip time from 2.8 to 2.880
Changed M14EBR RPS from 10.7 to 10.417
Changed M14EBR DPS from 338.8 to 329.872
Changed M14EBR reload time from 1.7 to 1.740 -
GodsGunman wrote: »Added in M4A1-Liberty Damage and statistics
Added in M4A1-WCG Damage and statistics
Removed DPS for all M16, AK-47 and M4A1 variants
Fixed the reload, RoF and empty clip time of all AK-47 and M4A1 variants
I have to ask you
soon enough as i workout the delivery issues i am gonna get lots of gp
should i buy dragunov or awm?
ak47 and/or m4a1 and/or winchestr scope?
anaconda or mk23 socom? -
I have to ask you
soon enough as i workout the delivery issues i am gonna get lots of gp
should i buy dragunov or awm?
ak47 and/or m4a1 and/or winchestr scope?
anaconda or mk23 socom?
Dragunov is terrible, get the AWM
Your choice on the m4 or the ak, they winchester scope sucks:
M4A1: Good at long range
AK-47: Good at close range
The rate of fire (RoF) of the anaconda is way too slow for my tastes, I'd go for the mk23 socom out of those two. The desert eagle is a lot better though. -
GodsGunman wrote: »Dragunov is terrible, get the AWM
Your choice on the m4 or the ak, they winchester scope sucks:
M4A1: Good at long range
AK-47: Good at close range
The rate of fire (RoF) of the anaconda is way too slow for my tastes, I'd go for the mk23 socom out of those two. The desert eagle is a lot better though.
i already have a deagle this is my second gun o.o -
I have to ask you
soon enough as i workout the delivery issues i am gonna get lots of gp
should i buy dragunov or awm?
ak47 and/or m4a1 and/or winchestr scope?
anaconda or mk23 socom?GodsGunman wrote: »Dragunov is terrible, get the AWM
Your choice on the m4 or the ak, they winchester scope sucks:
M4A1: Good at long range
AK-47: Good at close range
The rate of fire (RoF) of the anaconda is way too slow for my tastes, I'd go for the mk23 socom out of those two. The desert eagle is a lot better though.
The only advantage Drag has over Awm is a slightly faster firing rate, but if fire rate is what one wants Dsr would be better. Drag can't 1 hit at long ranges and would require 2 shots, but all the 2 shot snipers fire faster then it so its pretty pointless to use.
For the Socom vs Anaconda.
Are you looking for a close range pistol or a long range pistol?
Anaconda good for when your using a close range primary like a shotgun.
Socom can only compete against both deagle and anaconda at short ranges because the recoil per shot on it makes it inaccurate past close range. If you slowed down your fire rate then deagle and anaconda beat it simply because they can do more damage.
Deagle can be fired at 4.7 rounds a second with 61 damage to chest with in 5 meters.
Socom can be fired at 7.2 rounds a second with 38 damage to chest with in 5 meters.
Deagle VS Socom.
First round for both fired at same time. time 0.00 seconds.
Deagle 61
Socom 38
Second round fired by socom at 0.13 seconds
Socom 76
Deagle 61
Third round fired by deagle at 0.21 seconds.
Deagle 122 (target dead)
Socom 76
Forth round fired by socom at 0.26 seconds.
Deagle 122 (target dead)
Socom 114 (target dead)
Deagle and Socom have the same recoil per bullet, but because the Socom can shoot faster its more affected by it. If you reduce the fire rate to control the recoil then the Deagle wins easily. -
GodsGunman wrote: »Dragunov is terrible, get the AWM
Your choice on the m4 or the ak, they winchester scope sucks:
M4A1: Good at long range
AK-47: Good at close range
The rate of fire (RoF) of the anaconda is way too slow for my tastes, I'd go for the mk23 socom out of those two. The desert eagle is a lot better though.
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