My first time organizing a team.

Hey guys, I've started a new team (Optimum) and was wondering what a new competitive team should do to prepare for wogl and other leagues.

Most of my teammates are pub stars (including me). So what does it take to get into competitive play?
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  • get your shots up first in more td games. try to play like an aimbot. aim for head only

    as a team... practice and learn what parts of each map are called cause i'm sure you don't learn this from pubbing.
  • practice, practice, practice.
    Go to scrims, practice your strats, practice your shot, practice your game sense.
  • ROFLwhat wrote: »
    practice, practice, practice.
    Go to scrims, practice your strats, practice your shot, practice your game sense.

    Pretty much what this guy said.

    I suggest viewing some old casts of competitive players. www.wogl.tv or http://www.livestream.com/crossfirelive?t=549401

    Examine the way they play spots/angles/execute strats.
  • You might want to watch some cs if you're interested... (esl.tv with commentary).
    Figure out the style and mentality of your team.
    Learn to controll the flow of the game.
    Be a man when you loose.
    Learn some standard tactics.
    In the end it all comes down to not making mistakes.

    Oh and don't be to afraid to get outplayed through tactics, as soon as you're solid doing the basics you'd better be off with training your aim.
    If you don't know what to do in a game (loosing badly) just play retake as CTs and do close full rushes/splits as a team as Ts, don't mess around with fakes etc., they will most likely hurt your game more than they will help...


    Sry for my bad english...GL with your team.
  • LuigiDREN wrote: »
    I suggest specing me in scrims.

    do this only if you want to lose.
  • 0zz wrote: »
    do this only if you want to lose.

    Teams don't lose because of me.
  • U must learn the force young skywalker.

    Yes listen to this, the force will guide you.
  • First off, practice ur shots in TD and turn your sound completely off. Individual play is entirely psycological, tell yourself that you're the best player in game when you play, be confidant.

    Find motivation by watching casts,etc and do NOT fall into a slump, DO NOT get angry or frustrated.

    You should never BLAME yourself or a teammate DIRECTLY if you lost the round because of you/him, Try using the teamchat instead,it helps.

    Don't think too much for your team, you have to trust their abilities to deliver. Call strats at the beginning and keep it simple. If you need to rework a takeover because IE: your teammember died, find a safe spot, and take a moment to think and make a call, then put yourself back into the "me" mentality.

    The worst part of being CPT is when you have teammates are on slumps and that get angry/frustrated. If you followed the above, this shouldn't happen but if it does: Motivation, Confidance and the will to win is key. Don't let them get ahead of themselves, call strats to organize your team. If you don't call a strat, theyll likely rush and die. This is when you need to think more about your team, encourage them for doing good stuff. In a real good team, none of this should even be necessary, but many unexperienced teams will have these slumps.

    Start off by practicing against decent teams and be prepared to lose. Think of your mistakes and make that chemistry happen. When you start winning against good teams, you can then start telling yourselves:"we are the best, noone can stop us".

    EDIT: it's better to have players that are confidant in their abilities and motivated then players that have skill but often fall into slumps when they start losing.
  • do 100 sit-ups and 100 push-ups....and then you pro plauir like my friend DJ Thunder
  • thepolo wrote: »
    Pretty much what this guy said.

    I suggest viewing some old casts of competitive players. www.wogl.tv or http://www.livestream.com/crossfirelive?t=549401

    Examine the way they play spots/angles/execute strats.
    Haha go for the LiveStream one ;D

    I'd really focus on the team Chemistry. It's good that the players you are making a team with know you. Make sure to not know just how you play but how your teammates play. Don't let mistakes and lost frustrate you. Yes, losing may be frustrating but don't let that be a reason to break your team apart. Even though you may losing, its a learning process for you and your team. Work as team, learn as a team and build as team. I'm not the most experienced but there are definitely more people who can give you some more advice. Good luck to you and your team!
  • Really guys? The MOST IMPORTANT advice anyone can give you RIGHT NOW is....PLAY AS A TEAM. Build your chemistry. It doesn't matter what you play, just play. You can practice your 'strats' and 'angles' all day, but without fluent energy throughout the team, it will all come out rocky in play; Alot of single-man plays + individualism. Once you have a grasp as a team, strats will all play out in themselves. Angles are something you learn along the way of playing [general].
  • Really guys? The MOST IMPORTANT advice anyone can give you RIGHT NOW is....PLAY AS A TEAM. Build your chemistry. It doesn't matter what you play, just play. You can practice your 'strats' and 'angles' all day, but without fluent energy throughout the team, it will all come out rocky in play; Alot of single-man plays + individualism. Once you have a grasp as a team, strats will all play out in themselves. Angles are something you learn along the way of playing [general].
    ESLMasta wrote: »
    Haha go for the LiveStream one ;D

    I'd really focus on the team Chemistry. It's good that the players you are making a team with know you. Make sure to not know just how you play but how your teammates play. Don't let mistakes and lost frustrate you. Yes, losing may be frustrating but don't let that be a reason to break your team apart. Even though you may losing, its a learning process for you and your team. Work as team, learn as a team and build as team. I'm not the most experienced but there are definitely more people who can give you some more advice. Good luck to you and your team!

    Kind of what I said but explained more thoroughly. xD I still need to work on some of these things with my team. I have a lot of mistakes and my team has a lot that we need to work on. Bobby helps a lot and he is somebody that does HAVE the experience I don't.
  • Really guys? The MOST IMPORTANT advice anyone can give you RIGHT NOW is....PLAY AS A TEAM. Build your chemistry. It doesn't matter what you play, just play. You can practice your 'strats' and 'angles' all day, but without fluent energy throughout the team, it will all come out rocky in play; Alot of single-man plays + individualism. Once you have a grasp as a team, strats will all play out in themselves. Angles are something you learn along the way of playing [general].

    He was asking about how to prepare for leagues...I think it should be obvious that chemistry is needed to some extent.
    TBH team chemistry is overrated. Yes teams can work as communities of purpose. If everybody has a really professional attitude you can actually get very far without liking each other.
    Personal skill and good preperation > good chemistry
  • sLizeD wrote: »
    He was asking about how to prepare for leagues...I think it should be obvious that chemistry is needed to some extent.
    TBH team chemistry is overrated. Yes teams can work as communities of purpose. If everybody has a really professional attitude you can actually get very far without liking each other.
    Personal skill and good preperation > good chemistry

    Agreed. Team chemistry is overrated IMO. I believe chemistry comes with playing together. What do you do when you play together? You begin going over strats, angles, and learn to shoot. It takes time to develop chemistry. I've seen teams have cruddy teamwork, and dominate due to pure talent. Teamwork comes with time, communications, and being comfortable with your team. Just get a group of guys together, talk, scrim, and you'll get better over time.
  • Build up your aim set up a schedual for practice, dont even try echo 8 scrims or tournements until you get solid chemistry, Also make sure you guys go over maps and get strats also learn how each other play.
  • thepolo wrote: »
    ...Just get a group of guys together, talk, scrim, and you'll get better over time.

    That's called [building] chemistry. So, I don't know how overrated something can be if THAT is exactly what your telling them to do.
  • That's called [building] chemistry. So, I don't know how overrated something can be if THAT is exactly what your telling them to do.

    i beileve polo means it's overrated in the sense that people focus on it and stress it so much when the only way to build chemistry is to just play and practice with eachother as much as possible, not just go out and say "ok guys lets practice chemistry before we start scrimming!!!"
  • 0zz wrote: »
    i beileve polo means it's overrated in the sense that people focus on it and stress it so much when the only way to build chemistry is to just play and practice with eachother as much as possible, not just go out and say "ok guys lets practice chemistry before we start scrimming!!!"

    Its good to get your personal feelings out. If I ever get to lan with my team im going to make sure we sit around our beds and hold hands while talking about our feelings in the candlelight to express our inner-selves.


    Or not. I actually had a really good convo with Matt (aka mty, beast ak'er that came to cf for like 2 months but is back in source) about chemistry or shot. Anyway, you can be playing with the same team for 10 years - and still get rolled by a team made last week with better shots , e.g. my old team,ApeSchit, beat some pretty big teams through strats & our best players coming up big even though I'd only played for some of my teammates for a short period of time.
  • That's called [building] chemistry. So, I don't know how overrated something can be if THAT is exactly what your telling them to do.

    It is building chemistry.

    Example:
    You have one leader and four followers. He relays strats then they execute using angles and spots. Eventually after making mistakes and learning, they develop together.

    It would make sense for a team to learn those bolded objects to achieve the underlined one. Right? ;D

    Its overrated to say you need to focus on that one aspect. It'll come with time. You have other things to work on that'll build it up.

    I guess thats my opinion from a competitive player standpoint. I've never felt the need to worry or rush chemistry/teamwork. Top concerns from me in CSS for the past 2 years have always get your shot exceptional, use strats, and ingame smarts. Chemistry was always in the back of my mind. I guess it varies from player to player.

    I've seen teams that have played for a year+ together and haven't gone anywhere with their "chemistry." Other things should be the focus. I should be a prime example, my first year to year and 1/2, I tried to go on chemistry first, then strats/smarts/angles/shots. Instead of advancing to invite, we stayed the medicore cal-main team for 5 seasons.

    I believe any upcoming team shouldn't make the same mistake I did.
    0zz wrote: »
    i beileve polo means it's overrated in the sense that people focus on it and stress it so much when the only way to build chemistry is to just play and practice with eachother as much as possible, not just go out and say "ok guys lets practice chemistry before we start scrimming!!!"


    exactly.
  • crack 2 eggs and pure them into a bowl,

    stir them fast and drink them

    slap yourself 3 times

    log into cf

    get on vent

    face lifeline and prepare to 18-0 them

    ???
  • RuSTalt wrote: »
    Its good to get your personal feelings out. If I ever get to lan with my team im going to make sure we sit around our beds and hold hands while talking about our feelings in the candlelight to express our inner-selves.


    Or not. I actually had a really good convo with Matt (aka mty, beast ak'er that came to cf for like 2 months but is back in source) about chemistry or shot. Anyway, you can be playing with the same team for 10 years - and still get rolled by a team made last week with better shots , e.g. my old team,ApeSchit, beat some pretty big teams through strats & our best players coming up big even though I'd only played for some of my teammates for a short period of time.

    that can also go both ways. you can completely out play teams who overall have much more talent than you purely by playing smart and as a team.
  • individual shots and gamesense topped off with team communication is a priority. chemistry is temporal but i've never experienced it with any team so i cannot say by what margin will a team's skill go up. chances are a team with good chemistry is bound to have good communication, shots and gamesense since they've been playing the game for a while... if not then there is a problem
  • one shot/ burst headshots are important, so is map knowledge/strats.
  • scovert wrote: »
    one shot/ burst headshots are important, so is map knowledge/strats.

    this man knows.
  • I think ESP is really important if you want to be a top team.
  • thepolo wrote: »
    . . .

    I've never once seen a team at a higher level that was all talent and no team chemistry. Chemistry is such a wide variable. You people look at it like it's simple 'gelling with your team'. It's knowing your team, how they play, what they play, them knowing you; The gears of your team. Name me ONE top dollar team TODAY that DOES NOT have team chemistry...

    I'll wait on that answer.
    dooplpk wrote: »
    chemistry is a myth it doesn't exist

    You would think that, considering you were leader of a team that had their head up their a-, and couldn't see eye to eye. Having to scr.ape together every week...thus bowing out in playoffs. All talent...no team.
  • I've never once seen a team at a higher level that was all talent and no team chemistry. Chemistry is such a wide variable. You people look at it like it's simple 'gelling with your team'. It's knowing your team, how they play, what they play, them knowing you; The gears of your team. Name me ONE top dollar team TODAY that DOES NOT have team chemistry...

    I'll wait on that answer.


    team undead went undefeated 66-0 without practice. too good for this community