pCp vs vVv LL
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The Final Administration Decision - Upon Review
The match between LifeLine vs. pCp will be given to LifeLine, forfeited by pCp for the following reasons:
Infraction by pCp's aL -
Cheating (2 years barrage)
Bypassing Aequitas (2 years barrage)
Evidence of this player's use of an illegal program:
- Aequitas Log/ESL Wire Log shows inconsistency and extensive time gaps
Aequitas Log: aL pCp
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- Replay tape reveals very suggestive and suspicious actions relating to use of illegal programs (Examined by Administrators: Blood, Iceman, Run_Fools on 16/03/11 11:20 EST) -
The Final Administration Decision - Upon Review
The match between LifeLine vs. pCp will be given to LifeLine, forfeited by pCp for the following reasons:
Infraction by pCp's aL -
Cheating (2 years barrage)
Bypassing Aequitas (2 years barrage)
Evidence of this player's use of an illegal program:
- Aequitas Log/ESL Wire Log shows inconsistency and extensive time gaps
Aequitas Log: aL pCp
login: 17/03/11 02:34
logout: 17/03/11 02:36
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logout: 17/03/11 02:40
login: 17/03/11 02:44
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login: 17/03/11 02:54
logout: 17/03/11 03:34
- Replay tape reveals very suggestive and suspicious actions relating to use of illegal programs (Examined by Administrators: Blood, Iceman, Run_Fools on 16/03/11 11:20 EST)
this is ******ed -
The Final Administration Decision - Upon Review
The match between LifeLine vs. pCp will be given to LifeLine, forfeited by pCp for the following reasons:
Infraction by pCp's aL -
Cheating (2 years barrage)
Bypassing Aequitas (2 years barrage)
Evidence of this player's use of an illegal program:
- Aequitas Log/ESL Wire Log shows inconsistency and extensive time gaps
Aequitas Log: aL pCp
login: 17/03/11 02:34
logout: 17/03/11 02:36
login: 17/03/11 02:38
logout: 17/03/11 02:40
login: 17/03/11 02:44
logout: 17/03/11 02:47
login: 17/03/11 02:54
logout: 17/03/11 03:34
- Replay tape reveals very suggestive and suspicious actions relating to use of illegal programs (Examined by Administrators: Blood, Iceman, Run_Fools on 16/03/11 11:20 EST)
i know alot of ppl who didnt even run the ac. Maybe you should look into that. -
LifeLine hates losing even a small amount of rounds. Last time we played them we ended with 18-9 and they called cheats on us and roth was acting like a 12 year old. Most of my team lost respect for LL that game. Yeah, we did lose on factory but the teams that have played us in that map can tell that we haven't practiced that much. I guess it's just how LL rolls nowadays. Honestly not trying to troll, just stating my honest opinion.
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Louzy, you're right, we don't like losing even a small amount of rounds. Last time we played was in the ESL NA Cup #1 and the final score was 18-2. Malte had a gut feeling and went with it. Turns out that aL was not on AC for around 15 minutes of our match. I think that deserved the attention it received.
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I don't know what happened, and if it is true or not. I know that he is known for cheating in the past, and if the logs show he did what he did, then I trust ESL.
As for the video Ruskie posted, I don't really know. I think he was fishy as hell, but i do 1/2 the stuff he does. I think it is an 80% chance of him cheating, due to logs, video, and his past.
And I also believe that vVv Lifeline is a very professional team, and that they don't overturn a match for no reason. They are a respectable bunch of guys. But i'm not on their D!ck or anything, just saying what I feel is true. -
vVvbLitzedLL wrote: »Louzy, you're right, we don't like losing even a small amount of rounds. Last time we played was in the ESL NA Cup #1 and the final score was 18-2. Malte had a gut feeling and went with it. Turns out that aL was not on AC for around 15 minutes of our match. I think that deserved the attention it received.
your face deserves attention with my jump spray
well see Bloods decision is dumb as fck in my oppinion -
Ok I take back my earlier comments, the replay "evidence" is a joke. Are you seriously trying to prove that aL cheated with that? lol...
He turned off n on the ac, which could lead to toggling, the replay looks terrible & proves nothing, if this is how they're going to decide who cheats & who doesn't lol, I don't see this going far at all... -
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dont you think that the decision was made to quick tho? they gave him an outo ban without concrete proof.dotaaaishere wrote: »thank you ^
this guy banned al for the dumbest ****ing reasons he didnt even let al speak nor did he have the chance to
Turning off the anti cheat is enough proof for dq, and I don't know about the ban, but it is their call. -
Pat_Bateman wrote: »let me see
- wogl banned
- turns off/on client multiple times during match
- plays like a cheater
do the math.
hear bloods explanation and you'll see why were mad.Blood is saying al bypassed the anti cheat when he did not go afk a single round nor did he pause or do any other **** this guys claiming, al is not smart enough hes a kid.Bloods decision is just evidence towards a bad league -
Pat_Bateman wrote: »let me see
- wogl banned
- turns off/on client multiple times during match
- plays like a cheater
do the math.
you cant judge him for that. Just by saying that, then our whole team would be cheaters, and that does not make sence.
2 for him to cheat he would have to alt tab stop the client and alt tab back in which would take 10 sec, we are currrently trying to see if he stops during the match, if he does then he could have been cheating but atm you cant say he was -
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it pains me to say this but i have to agree al might have cheated, although i disagree on the 2 year ban as its a : might.
i din't watch the whole replay but the youtube vid seem to be on the cheating side. to me what seem to show the most is the 2nd time he peeked midle doors, as he seemed to have rushed it mindlessly, as if he really wanted the kill no mater what.
just my oppinion on the sugjest, dont take it too personaly. -
The Final Administration Decision - Upon Review
The match between LifeLine vs. pCp will be given to LifeLine, forfeited by pCp for the following reasons:
Infraction by pCp's aL -
Cheating (2 years barrage)
Bypassing Aequitas (2 years barrage)
Evidence of this player's use of an illegal program:
- Aequitas Log/ESL Wire Log shows inconsistency and extensive time gaps
Aequitas Log: aL pCp
login: 17/03/11 02:34
logout: 17/03/11 02:36
login: 17/03/11 02:38
logout: 17/03/11 02:40
login: 17/03/11 02:44
logout: 17/03/11 02:47
login: 17/03/11 02:54
logout: 17/03/11 03:34
- Replay tape reveals very suggestive and suspicious actions relating to use of illegal programs (Examined by Administrators: Blood, Iceman, Run_Fools on 16/03/11 11:20 EST)dont you think that the decision was made to quick tho? they gave him an outo ban without concrete proof.
Ruskie, I'm going to give you my honest opinion. I know that Blood is no idiot, and you have to admit, everyone in pCp does have a fishy past. But that by no means doesn't mean that he cheated. When we faced your team, we felt you were legit, and I don't know what it was, maybe you guys weren't trying or w/e, but we ended up tying you guys most matches. And I know for a fact that iD Gaming wouldn't be able to tie vvv lifeline, so suggesting this spontaneous improvement is just mere luck would be foolish.
But Ruskie, I also understand your position. There is a chance that most of the shots were either fluke or just randy stuff, I mean I preaim that stuff half the time too. But because he did it consistently, and I have seen replays of cheaters. they almost ALWAYS cover up like aL was doing in there.
So therefore, I believe that they did have reliable grounds to ban aL, and declare the match overturned. But I also understand that it was slightly hasty, and understand the position of the ESL admins, they are up late at night reviewing every little thing, because the cup is continuing tomorrow, so they have to make a logical decision. And in this instance, the most logical one was banning aL.
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