Removal of the "Vote Kick" system
in Suggestions
The votekick system is abused horribly people kick you for doing bad if you're trying your best or in my case being kicked because i'm going more then 2 K/DR. People are kicking on someones opinions let's say this guy is 1-17 and he says hack! Chances are..he's just bad and the opposition is just good. cF has patched alot of hacks and most that I see now are people in walls but that's off topic moving on..
Now even if cF could "tweak" it to a certain extent such as the highest ranking player on each team can only vote kick. This is a bad idea of course because a highest rank could be legitly hacking or just a complete noob and kicking good players who are not hacking. That idea is the best I have but I think the point is across that this system is easily taken advantage of. Also, there is alot of pointless categories in this system such as "Insulting or Swearing" is rarely used properly and could just be removed. If a player is annoying you block chatting is there for a reason. Think before you shout hack! aswell because it usually resolves in a good player being kicked for nothing. Look over the posibilites before you say it in GM alot chances are..it's luck.
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Now even if cF could "tweak" it to a certain extent such as the highest ranking player on each team can only vote kick. This is a bad idea of course because a highest rank could be legitly hacking or just a complete noob and kicking good players who are not hacking. That idea is the best I have but I think the point is across that this system is easily taken advantage of. Also, there is alot of pointless categories in this system such as "Insulting or Swearing" is rarely used properly and could just be removed. If a player is annoying you block chatting is there for a reason. Think before you shout hack! aswell because it usually resolves in a good player being kicked for nothing. Look over the posibilites before you say it in GM alot chances are..it's luck.
Post your thoughts below
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I don't think it would be better or worse without it really. Real hackers and/or glitchers won't be able to get kicked at all.
60-70% of the time do hackers even get kicked..? No people don't even kick them they use them the system doesnt even work well infact the need for one would not even be there if cF could keep up with the hacks -
60-70% of the time do hackers even get kicked..? No people don't even kick them they use them the system doesnt even work well infact the need for one would not even be there if cF could keep up with the hacks
But at least some do. Dont blame the system, blame the people who always abuse it. -
Wow, thats the primary reason I think that the kick should be in place. Hackers are running rampant as of now and for whatever sad reason, CF HAS NOT PLACED A INGAME REPORTING DEVICE FOR THE AVERAGE GAMER. I remember it took me a half hour to figure out how to report and even with that I tend to be lazy and not report becuase Im not willing to spend a few mins reporting.
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Even though what u say is true i think that there should be a system where 2/3 of people vote to kik and that there should be a camera watching each indiviule game so the gm will take care of it just like there is now only just a little faster like a smart AI (just an idea dont be judgemental)
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WishMunzta wrote: »That'll make this game kick free =/= more fking hac.kers
You're retar.d
Vote kick needs to be improved. In S&D and ghost mode, all the legit players with good skilled get noob kicked and in TDM and escape mode the noobs can't find the f11 button or don't have the time to realize who the hacker is since there is so much action going on.
"Freeze game for vote kicks" is needed for TDM and Escape mode
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=106510
and make the noobs pay for f11ing.
Stop adding useless stuff when what we have already is broken. Doing something about the vote kick should be a top priority. -
I have to agree that the vote kick system should be removed. In addition to the fact that hackers do NOT get kicked most of the time, I find it frustrating how one noob on the opposing team will say "hack kick" and my dumb team actually listens and kicks me.
I'm sure I'm not alone and honestly, I think it's better that a hacker stays in the game rather than a legit player getting kicked. -
Uhhhh, excuse me, but if anyone is ******ed here, it is you. By your same logic, because gun's don't kill people and it's people who do, there should be no restrictions on guns of any kind. That's an absolutely astounding display of BROKEN logic.
If people are ABLE to abuse the system, OBVIOUSLY IT IS THE SYSTEM which should be fixed. For example, if your Linux system is hackable does that mean you shouldn't FIX your vulnerabilities? You should just sit there and stay insecure and blame everyone else for your own security shortcoming?
Please do not join a conversation unless you can utilize basic common sense. Thank you.
The kick system needs to be fixed alright - it needs to ban anyone who is kicked and Z8 can then review who is banned and remove the ones who were unecessarily banned. Proven veterans who are KNOWN non-cheats that have repeat problems can be excluded from being kicked altogether. This isn't rocket science, Z8 is just lazy and incompetant. -
kappinricioz wrote: »Uhhhh, excuse me, but if anyone is ******ed here, it is you. By your same logic, because gun's don't kill people and it's people who do, there should be no restrictions on guns of any kind. That's an absolutely astounding display of BROKEN logic.
If people are ABLE to abuse the system, OBVIOUSLY IT IS THE SYSTEM which should be fixed. For example, if your Linux system is hackable does that mean you shouldn't FIX your vulnerabilities? You should just sit there and stay insecure and blame everyone else for your own security shortcoming?
Please do not join a conversation unless you can utilize basic common sense. Thank you.
The kick system needs to be fixed alright - it needs to ban anyone who is kicked and Z8 can then review who is banned and remove the ones who were unecessarily banned. Proven veterans who are KNOWN non-cheats that have repeat problems can be excluded from being kicked altogether. This isn't rocket science, Z8 is just lazy and incompetant.
Alright. What do you suggest we do? Because as far as I know, there isn't 1 dam system which is perfect.
Fck the community. The system isn't the one to blame. -
Just make it to where experience/kills/deaths/etc count when kicked instead of doing away with it. No one cares if hackers get lots of experience/good kdr because it's pretty much unavoidable anyways and they should eventually be banned. However, when a legit player is kicked when doing good it's just annyoing. I rather take my experience/kills/death and go to a new game anyways with some capable players rather than a immature room of ******s that scream hacks at everything.
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »What do you suggest we do? Because as far as I know, there isn't 1 dam system which is perfect.
HAHAHAHAHAH over 9000 posts and posting like a clueless newbie. Down syndrome detected.
We aren't asking for a perfect system but we made plenty of suggestions and you ****ing read them too (not that it matters because you don't work on the game). If you worked on this game it would be much worse than it is already because instead of patching the hacks you would say yo hoes don't blame me, blame th3 h4x0rz.
All those who reason with your logic and justify all the wrong things this game has by saying it's a f2p fps are wrong. Smilegate and the rest are here for the money and it's important for them to keep customers happy and the noobs playing this game. -
WishMunzta wrote: »That'll make this game kick free =/= more fking hac.kers
You're retar.d
You're an idiot. Everyone always tries to argue this point and the answer is: Play with friends or play with your clan if you can't handle the hackers.
Either that or play with the hackers and stfu because you cry too much.
I'd rather play with hackers than not play at all. You ret.ard.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »You're blaming the system. That's dumb. Blame the people because they abuse it.
I'm really tired of you saying this on every thread.
The system is what's broken because it allows these idiots to continue using it as a game-sanctioned hack. If the system wasn't broken I wouldn't care about the players being ret.arded because they couldn't do anything about it.It's not the vote kick system, it's the players themselves. The vote kick works perfectly, but then you got people kicking others for no reason at all. Removing the vote kick system would only prove more problems in the future, not less.
The vote kick works perfectly
vote kick works
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>_<!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Alright. What do you suggest we do? Because as far as I know, there isn't 1 dam system which is perfect.
Fck the community. The system isn't the one to blame.
There haven't been any other systems tried. There have been plenty of good suggestions though and I know you've seen them.
The system is ABSOLUTELY the one to blame. Other games don't have vote kick and this problem doesn't exist. Other games have auto-kicks/bans for hackers and make their games hack free. There are ways to fix this problem but they need to do it instead of just being ret.arded and saying everything is fine as is which it obviously isn't. Every single day there are threads here pointing out how bad it is.
There's a good one right there which has been suggested numerous times before. Why are there stacking penalties? First you get slandered then you get kicked out of the game then you lose your time, your XP, your GP, your mission points. It's bullsh.it.BotanxJessica wrote: »Just make it to where experience/kills/deaths/etc count when kicked instead of doing away with it. No one cares if hackers get lots of experience/good kdr because it's pretty much unavoidable anyways and they should eventually be banned. However, when a legit player is kicked when doing good it's just annyoing. I rather take my experience/kills/death and go to a new game anyways with some capable players rather than a immature room of ******s that scream hacks at everything.
Heh, I see this was already pointed out. ;pHAHAHAHAHAH over 9000 posts and posting like a clueless newbie.
We aren't asking for a perfect system but we made plenty of suggestions and you ****ing read them too -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »You're blaming the system. That's dumb. Blame the people because they abuse it.
Then how do you solve it?
And as Misako said: z8 shouldn't fix hacks as the problem is not with the game code, but the hackers.
Do you agree with the above statement? -
UKDissident wrote: »Then how do you solve it?
And as Misako said: z8 shouldn't fix hacks as the problem is not with the game code, but the hackers.
Do you agree with the above statement?
Yes.
Solving the problem is obvious. The community needs to be more mature. But the solution is nearly impossible to do. I honestly dont see the system changing or getting removed. But at least they should give it a try and see how it goes. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Yes.
So let me see if I'm getting this straight.
You believe there should be no hack protection system on CF because the hackers are the problem and not the games code or hacks?
You believe there should be no improvement of the kick vote system on CF because the abusers are the problem and not the kick system? -
UKDissident wrote: »So let me see if I'm getting this straight.
You believe there should be no hack protection system on CF because the hackers are the problem and not the games code or hacks?
You believe there should be no improvement of the kick vote system on CF because the abusers are the problem and not the kick system?
They both have the fault. But if people didn't use them in the first place they wouldn't need to code it. The game isn't perfect...I know that.
And no, I never said there shouldn't be improvement. Have you seen what I've been suggesting? -.-
Even if they add an even better system the community would abuse it. I also said they should add least try it. Remove it for a month and ask us what we think. Did it go better or was it worse...etc...
I never said there shouldn't be any improvement -.-
There probably never will knowing how slow things are and how little they listen to us.
Seriously dude... -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »They both have the fault
Agreed.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »But if people didn't use them in the first place they wouldn't need to code it.
Which is entirely the point I am making.
Z8 and the devs do have to do things to this game to prevent idiots from hacking just as they should do things to prevent people from abusing kick voting - Whilst both kick vote abusing and hacking are ultimately the faults of moronic community solely and not the game itself, it is z8/devs that want to give users a playable game that's why they patch hacks (when it's the communities fault) so that they can make money, and that is why they should patch kick vote too, no matter who's fault it is.
So in essence what is the point in nearly every thread of saying "it's the community fault"? - To me this is the same senario as Xtrap never patching hacks ever again and then when people complain about the matter saying z8 should get a new anti-hack program, then people keep coming along and saying "it's the community fault there are hacks, not z8, we don't need patches the community is the issue".
The truth is z8 does not care about those that have been here a while as more noobs sign up daily, and by annoying those noobs by preventing them from "kicking all the hackers" otherwise known as legit players = less cash as they'll just think everyone is hacking and leave.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »And no, I never said there shouldn't be improvement. Have you seen what I've been suggesting? -.-
So you support z8 fixing a problem that is the communities fault i.e hacking
Then why should kick vote be any different? In fact it is abused way more than any hack ever has been, it is thee #1 cheat ever to be used on CF.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Even if they add an even better system the community would abuse it.
So would people using hacks, z8 patches, the hack makers patch - Does that make it pointless? ofcourse not, the aim is a playable enjoyable game.
In fact with kick voting they could nearly eradicate the abuse entirely since that feature is 100% in their control as opposed to hack and holes in the code.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I also said they should add least try it Remove it for a month and ask us what we think. Did it go better or was it worse...etc...
Like I said before it would need to be an executive decision as to whether it works, we could not rely on the community of noobs to say whether it was an improvement as they see hackers everywhere and are paranoid.
Even at the suggestion of removing it for say 2 weeks, a million noobs would leave CF, leaving z8 with close to 10 million inactive accounts, 1 million that just left and about 2000 people that actually play the game well (this is light-hearted but you get the idea:D)L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I never said there shouldn't be any improvement -.-
Good.
It's just I can't figure how statements like:
"kick vote is fine it's the community that is at fault"
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"yea kick vote is abused a lot, but the non voters shouldn't count" (which make it easier to kick everyone and sundry for nothing)
Would Help?L0LSmilyFace wrote: »There probably never will knowing how slow things are and how little they listen to us.
Seriously dude...
I know they don't listen, that's why I and others make it a point to drill it into their heads:) -
nucksfan123 wrote: »removing it would make start the biggest hack outbreak ever. stupid idea.
i got a better idea, stop pubbing?
Hack makers start hack outbreaks not kick vote use your brain please.
Keeping it would allow noobs to continue to abuse the biggest in game hack ever used i.e kick vote.
Since you claim to scrim then it shouldn't matter to you, so stop posting your nonsense and paranoia in threads that don't concern you;) -
WishMunzta wrote: »That'll make this game kick free =/= more fking hac.kers
You're retar.d
i bet you that legit players get kick voted more then hackers do in that case why would this system be needed if it's not used properly. by the way it's "your a" not "you're". Retar.d
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