Things that need to be said and heard - Part 4
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MwakMunzta wrote: »It's a start
Exactly. Luckster, I do see your point of view and you do have a valid point. But we have to start somewhere right? We can't expect people to change without someone trying to lead that change. Understand? All I'm doing is trying, regardless of how the odds are stacked against the attempt. It's a place to start. -
TheLuckster wrote: »If you think this game or community is fixable your either really young or naive or both. There is threads that have a sticky about vote kick in mutation and FFA that the over whelming majority wants put in yet there is nothing done. Immediately after x-trap patches there are still 1 shot hacks and speed hacks running around. Great suggestions about filters for rooms like ping restriction etc yet still nothing done. This game is just plain coded bad and way to much information is coded client side makes it so easy to hack.
This game has potential, to bad it's free to play.
A game being free to play has NOTHING to do with it's development. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »The mentality I want to change. I don't want to single you out, but the "eye for an eye" mentality is what sometimes contributes to such negative feelings. Don't you think you would be the bigger and more mature person if you show him the respect even when he disrespects you? "Kill them with kindness" is something my brother always used to say. It works.
I suppose you are correct and I will work on changing my attitude. -
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Ah. I see. This is actually about the maddening slowness of the developers. Well, I think they’re trying their best, trying to evenly produce new content and fix bugs and stuff. It must be pretty hard, and I couldn’t do it. Just be happy and help out if you can, and don’t anger the ten year olds who want cf to be like mw2.
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Please remember, trying is still amazing. The worse that can happen, is a MOD corrects some wrong things, or a troll tries to be cool and attempts to make his ego a little bit better than what it was. Many grand and notable achievements were always "achieved" because of somebody ignoring the major population and deciding to be him or herself and doing something.
Whatever anybody else says to you, you are still yourself. Don't change yourself because of others. -
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »You can choose to tolerate any one you want. That's your decision, not anyone else. Isn't it better to be the better person and be tolerant?
Actually, there's a subconscious tipping point that you can't control without EXTREME understanding of yourself.
Although the majority of intolerance in this community is under that line. -
I don't think we are anywhere near that point, lol.Actually, there's a subconscious tipping point that you can't control without EXTREME understanding of yourself.
Although the majority of intolerance in this community is under that line. -
I just wanted to say that i agree with your thread [MOD]Polleus well all need to be treating people better in the forums. To all yes we can lose tempers and vent but what does that accomplish, 1000 threads about things we cant change. Yes i for one added to that. But what does this show people who we are as a community. We do need and have show we are better people. I may start rubbing off on people.
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I just wanted to say that i agree with your thread [MOD]Polleus well all need to be treating people better in the forums. To all yes we can lose tempers and vent but what does that accomplish, 1000 threads about things we cant change. Yes i for one added to that. But what does this show people who we are as a community. We do need and have show we are better people. I may start rubbing off on people.
Indeed. Glad to have changed someone's perception on the idea
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »You can choose to tolerate any one you want. That's your decision, not anyone else. Better to be the more mature person than not, in any situation.
Polleus:
you make some very strong points, and indeed, in an ideal world, this would be the correct solution. But unfortuately, we're dealing with human beings here, humans who are very angry about the state of support from a company, and their half-baked attempts at solving the hacker problem. And the other person IS correct: even though you are setting a very good example, it's foolhardy to expect others, who are extremely ****ed off, to be able to follow such an example. The community's attitude *is* shaped by the current state of the game; this couldn't be more true. If there were few problems with CF, then no one would have any counter to your arguments. But as of now, it's like trying to smile and pretend you're happy, while someone is crushing your finger ....
I *do* agree that people could be more professional about their issues, though, and offer solutions that make sense. -
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Polleus,
I agree with you on every topic of this post. Bottom line is that most of this community is comprised of young adults (at least that's how they act). I have met a very select few that are older (I'm 23) and more mature. With age, usually comes money, and with money comes better games and consoles. So, in that regards, i somewhat understand why this is an issue. To be perfectly honest, I think you're talking to a wall. This is a competitive game and people get some bad tempers. like wise, a younger crowd is going to act like children because they are children. I applaud your patience and hard work, but don't ask a cow to cluck like a chicken because it just won't happen. All you can do is continue to moderate these forums to the best of your ability. Take all the bad stuff with a grain of salt. Hope i could help. -
There are two topics being interchangeably debated upon in this thread.
One being natural human behavior, the other being the support towards a brighter community.
On human behavior, yes it is natural for humans to throw a fit towards what is often considered unacceptable behavior aka hacking, glitching, trash talking etc. Not everyone is born a sage and has complete control over their emotions. Not everyone is willing to attain enough strength to become a sage. That's what it means to be human.
On the support towards a brighter community, preaching mutual respect is the only course of action anyone who cares about the community can take. The rest is in the hands of the community.
What will you do? -
polleus,
i agree with you on every topic of this post. To be perfectly honest, i think you're talking to a wall. This is a competitive game and people get some bad tempers. Like wise, a younger crowd is going to act like children because they are children. I applaud your patience and hard work, but don't ask a cow to cluck like a chicken because it just won't happen. Hope i could help.
bravo! Simply bravo! -
On the support towards a brighter community, preaching mutual respect is the only course of action anyone who cares about the community can take. The rest is in the hands of the community.
What will you do?
As was stated before, continuing to be an example to everyone is the best thing we can do.
Polleus I applaud your well made threads, and seeings how I wasn't posting in barracks at the time. I'd just like to say you really deserved the MOD tag, wasn't surprising to me at all. Keep it up, and idk what kind of power it really gives you, but I hope being a mod helps you in your endeavors to improve the community. -
Max_Skillz wrote: »As was stated before, continuing to be an example to everyone is the best thing we can do.
Polleus I applaud your well made threads, and seeings how I wasn't posting in barracks at the time. I'd just like to say you really deserved the MOD tag, wasn't surprising to me at all. Keep it up, and idk what kind of power it really gives you, but I hope being a mod helps you in your endeavors to improve the community.
Anyone can act as I do. I just hope by providing an example, others follow suit.
It is also human nature to make choices. Everyone has the choice to act a certain way. I think it's a poor excuse to blame human nature on someone's actions. Who has control of those actions? No one forces anyone to act a certain way. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Anyone can act as I do. I just hope by providing an example, others follow suit.
Indeed, I was actually referring to MagicMr's post on my first coment, lolz. But I agree 100%[MOD]Polleus wrote: »It is also human nature to make choices. Everyone has the choice to act a certain way. I think it's a poor excuse to blame human nature on someone's actions. Who has control of those actions? No one forces anyone to act a certain way.
Also agreed, everything is controlled by decisions, there is no "human nature" that governs us completely, and with the right amount of effort we can change, and affect change to those around us. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Anyone can act as I do. I just hope by providing an example, others follow suit.
It is also human nature to make choices. Everyone has the choice to act a certain way. I think it's a poor excuse to blame human nature on someone's actions. Who has control of those actions? No one forces anyone to act a certain way.
Ever take a class in sociology or psychology Polleus? It just might help you better understand exactly what it is you're tampering with and attempting to accomplish.
Like I said before, I agree with what you're trying to do. I just don't have faith. -
Ever take a class in sociology or psychology Polleus? It just might help you better understand exactly what it is you're tampering with and attempting to accomplish.
Like I said before, I agree with what you're trying to do. I just don't have faith.
Without trying at all and giving up, things will only go down hill. We may not reach perfection, but we can still crawl forwards as much as possible and hold firm. -
Ever take a class in sociology or psychology Polleus? It just might help you better understand exactly what it is you're tampering with and attempting to accomplish.
Like I said before, I agree with what you're trying to do. I just don't have faith.
Yes I have actually. Haha. I will make you a believer!
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