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After reading the thread one more time and in clear mind (I was sleepy last night), I think I understand the concept a bit now - so, with all respect, I will attempt to explain to you why what you want CAN'T happen:
Thanks for taking your time to re-read and post.
ZP crates event but no GP crates?
-As said earlier, Z8 has no control on where the crates will be placed, SG does the job. The only thing Z8 can compensate for that is to host events (which they have the right to without asking SG officials)
Yes, I understand if that's the case then at least Z8 is trying to make us as happy as their powers go, which is nice.
Is that too much to ask for new GP crates?
-Believe it or not, it IS. Someone already pointed out, GPs are free and adding new GP crates will just encourage people to spam accounts to spin them, unless a ranking restriction was added but then people will complain about having to level up to buy crates. The ONLY solution is to add MANY ZP CRATES to compensate, but I doubt Z8 has the power to afford that (Each BM gun costs $200 to request).
I'd say "fair point" to this comment above but problem is, if the game company is releasing much less GP content to avoid GP abuse from Alt acc's to avoid decrease on profits, then why does Z8 make generous events (now and then) that distribute lots of ZP crate amounts (like the one from the Summer School event), if that certainly can affect both Z8 and also SG's profits/revenue (since it is very abusable with Alt acc's as well)?..
I'm certainly sure that there are thousands of Alt accounts abusing ZP give-aways (like we all saw happen in the Motor Rally ZP Ultimate Gold Crate Give-Away, there were hundreds if not thousands of smiley ranks more than usual). Point is, I think the companies (Z8 & SG) lose more in this perspective than releasing 1 new GP Crate /Coupon weapon every I.e, 6 months rotation..(I recognize that a compromise would be best to balance both content types).
We used to have all those goodies in the past, why not now?
-Because back then CF is financed by PMANG and subsequently Tencent. After SmileGate took it back, the policy has changed and thus we just have to accept it. So does Z8, they can't ask for old days content style, as it's no longer in their contract.
Can't we at least try to suggest?
-Sadly you cannot - while we are able to request weapons or items, we CANNOT choose where it will be going. As I said earlier, SG does it, and there is a reason they won't add new GP crates too often.
Exactly, we can only do so much , it's all in their (SG) power but it's no exception to speak freely and demand for Z8 to 'try' contact them with all respect and see if they can come to an agreement with SG with what concerns our community the most in-game (it's possible if they were willing to give it a shot).
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Just got one more thing to say:
-In order to get FREE rewards from Z8's weekly/monthly events,you need to PLAY THE GAME
-In order to get FREE GP (and FP) ,you need to PLAY THE GAME
-In order to get PAID content with ZP,you need to PAY with real earned money
Still rocket science?Either you're walking the path of a troll,or youre just too ignorant to admit that youre wrong. -
What? O.o What? GP coupon content is not free? Since when we have to pay with real money for the GP/coupon or Coupon content?ZenithAnnul wrote: »Guess the definition of 'free' is different from mine and yours. Your definition of 'free' means using no real currency to purchase in-game goods, while mine means using no real currency + virtual points (GP/ZP) to purchase in-game goods.
My definition of 'free' is right there, yet it seems some people are still misinterpreting my posts. What just baffles me is that ZP can be earned for free as well through surveys/offers (it is hard to earn, but still free nonetheless), so if you mention that GP content is free, then ZP content should also be free to maintain consistency on your argument. But that's just silly and illogical since you are spending something which costs something, whether if it's real money or virtual points (GP/ZP), so people assures that ZP content is not free. Yet this exact, same argument is not applied in GP in this case.
Anyways, this type of conversation is going nowhere and is not the main point of the thread so I will refrain posting for now. -
Just wanted to revive the thread & say the following..[MOD]Fizzeq wrote: »Dota makes their prize pool off skin sales
[5:16:37 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Cf needs to hop on board with that
[5:17:52 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Literally cf should release 1 esports vip weapon and 1 esports zp crate and give a portion of sales to prizing
Any profit from content is absolutely useless without an esports presence with it. No game will survive without a strong competitive scene.
And as usual, Z8 have no authority over content. You're all talking to the wrong people.
ThePurv spoke about this among other subjects that need improving in our version on his amazing video, I completely agree, this game needs to improve it's competition sector in order to improve it's profits and (fame) potentiality of increasing it's player base to greater numbers.
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OT: I know there's much more to worry about other than just implementing weapons content to our version like improving/revamping the games infrastructure/security, fame and competitiveness but it would also be great if we had more permanent weapon choices in replacement of temporary weapons.. at least to those who spend a lot of money to the game as it's not fair to see players who spend hundreds/thousands on crates and get nothing permanent (at times) and neither anything else in the Coupons Exchange System (C.E.S) as they already own everything interestingly good from there that has to offer (because it rarely updates with great stuff as we all are aware).
"Smile-Gate need to improve a lot of things that we natives mention in forums, if they want this version to entice more investment/player base in-order to live on longer and stronger!" -
ThePurv spoke about this among other subjects that need improving in our version on his amazing video, I completely agree, this game needs to improve it's competition sector in order to improve it's profits and (fame) potentiality of increasing it's player base to greater numbers.
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OT: I know there's much more to worry about other than just implementing weapons content to our version like improving/revamping the games infrastructure/security, fame and competitiveness but it would also be great if we had more permanent weapon choices in replacement of temporary weapons.. at least to those who spend a lot of money to the game as it's not fair to see players who spend hundreds/thousands on crates and get nothing permanent (at times) and neither anything else in the Coupons Exchange System (C.E.S) as they already own everything interestingly good from there that has to offer (because it rarely updates with great stuff as we all are aware).
"Smile-Gate need to improve a lot of things that we natives mention in forums, if they want this version to entice more investment/player base in-order to live on longer and stronger!"
I don't really think Smilegate cares about anything, the way both games are now. -
ZenithAnnul wrote: »Guess the definition of 'free' is different from mine and yours. Your definition of 'free' means using no real currency to purchase in-game goods, while mine means using no real currency + virtual points (GP/ZP) to purchase in-game goods.
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I'd say "fair point" to this comment above but problem is, if the game company is releasing much less GP content to avoid GP abuse from Alt acc's to avoid decrease on profits, then why does Z8 make generous events (now and then) that distribute lots of ZP crate amounts (like the one from the Summer School event), if that certainly can affect both Z8 and also SG's profits/revenue (since it is very abusable with Alt acc's as well)?..
As mentioned earlier, they tried to compensate for massive ZP contents. They don't actually lose profit due to content distribution system (automated generate), and it will actually earn them some changes when players buy items to help farming life easier.I'm certainly sure that there are thousands of Alt accounts abusing ZP give-aways (like we all saw happen in the Motor Rally ZP Ultimate Gold Crate Give-Away, there were hundreds if not thousands of smiley ranks more than usual). Point is, I think the companies (Z8 & SG) lose more in this perspective than releasing 1 new GP Crate /Coupon weapon every I.e, 6 months rotation..(I recognize that a compromise would be best to balance both content types).
SG takes no damage in all these events, Z8 has to pay up front for the patch (Remember what I said about $200 per BM gun?). All they do is providing the patch and translation, Z8 then has to deal with angry community asking endlessly for stuff they CAN'T control. What do they do? They resort to events, something they can control - simple as that. -
As mentioned earlier, they tried to compensate for massive ZP contents. They don't actually lose profit due to content distribution system (automated generate), and it will actually earn them some changes when players buy items to help farming life easier.
SG takes no damage in all these events, Z8 has to pay up front for the patch (Remember what I said about $200 per BM gun?). All they do is providing the patch and translation, Z8 then has to deal with angry community asking endlessly for stuff they CAN'T control. What do they do? They resort to events, something they can control - simple as that.
Our version is luckier than yours I think? Because CFVN's having events that giving outs free M14 EBR and AN-94 scope, guns that are banned by the dumb players.
These recent events were nice though I wasnt here to do them, people been winning a lot of free gun from event crates, even the best M4-Spring. If some of you won sth from event crate than I think you wouldn't be crying so much, it's not easy to win but it's still a way to get zp gun without spending ZP though. -
You forgot that ZPs are earned for free via surveys and other random craps. In CFVN you can't get Vcoin free no matter what - you HAVE to charge some for starting, and then either try to win more via gambling or just spend more money (Even Black Market Vcoin with 15% discount is still expensive as hell).Our version is luckier than yours I think? Because CFVN's having events that giving outs free M14 EBR and AN-94 scope, guns that are banned by the dumb players.
These recent events were nice though I wasnt here to do them, people been winning a lot of free gun from event crates, even the best M4-Spring. If some of you won sth from event crate than I think you wouldn't be crying so much, it's not easy to win but it's still a way to get zp gun without spending ZP though.
Sure, those BM guns giveaway event might sound flashy but in the end too many people will get it and make them lose their value - if you want something unique, you just gotta spin 'em and hope they didn't become bargain giveaway stuff a few years later. -
First of all excuse my english ...
Well .. As I saw in clan where I'm member for years ..
The reason for most players to leave CrossFire and never-come-back isn't Zp/Gp weapons/crates.
But the Hackers, Glitchers and Laggers (Yeah! It's annoying when somebody with Status over 700 play Clan War against you) are the majority reason for most players to leave CrossFire.
And another majority reason is the Clan Page! Most of our Clan Members just lose interest in playing CrossFire, when Clan Ranking system disappeared ... It's just pointless to play Clan Wars nowadays.
And Public games? That's going to be boring and annoying when almost everybody will kick you without clearly reason, just because you're better or have VIP weapon and don't want share it with Ahmad for M16 or M4A1 Blue Crystal. It's almost impossible to play and not being kicked in long-period games (like SnD 13 rounds, Ghost Mode with 5+ rounds, TDM 12 minutes and EVEN FFA 30 kills).
So Kicking is another problem which made some players to leave CrossFire ..
And the last minor reason that I noticed are errors.. There are too many error that made CrossFire unplayable for most players. -
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You guys do see that GP Crates on our version are GP Item Shop PERM guns right? Please do not tell me this is what half the fuss is about. Nothing will ever beat Regular AK/M4, for all you "collectors" stop complaining about what you don't have and be thankful for what you do have. Go collect on CSGO and stop complaining!
BP was for our version only if i remember right and it was free, they didn't even have to add it so don't complain about it being removed. Everyone had everything from it anyways...
ZP Crates you know you can only have 5 bags for now right? what in the heck you gonna do with all those guns on your account? WHO YOU GONNA SHOW ONCE GAME SHUTS DOWN?
Z8Games has done the best they could, but they're not in charge of what gets added/released/fixed!
Sad i come to forums and all i ever see is a bunch of QQers crying about how they need new guns etc, start crying about your skill level and get ingame and get your aim on! Most of you forum users hardly ever play CFNA and most of you blow unless your in compet scene, You guys should be more worried about your aiming/tactics/common sense (ingame) rather then New guns/maps/crates/characters cause none of those will make you a better player.
I am thankful for everything on my account tho its not much but its everything to me since i have been playing since 09 and only spent 50$, it took a lot of time and practice to get where i am (with rank and weps and skill wise). Only players who have quit our version are the ones who moved to different games or versions of our game, and most of GM community from 09-10 due to cheaters. Most people left due to reason: 5-7 Players shooting through walls speed crouching aimbotting chamming ahmeds (tho most wasn't even from egypt but egypt still got blamed and flamed at)
Only thing i like when they do patch is XTRAP updates and less hackers, all that matters to me. Rather play a legit game then a cheating zp only no one cares game. Cheers! -
Spending 8 hours playing on BF4 Reddit server is a thousand times more fun than playing CF for 30 minutes. This game, with its toxic community sucks. The end.
I agree, and no p2w on BF4 either. Whatever competitive scene was on CF, is leaving for CSGO. I myself only get on once in a while cause I've been playing this game long before it got ruined by VIPS*.
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