I see where this is going..
Unfortunately, I feel that Z8 is compromising the community (more than they shouldn't).. many like myself have realised that our CF version is making us players accustomed to NOT get permanent GP Shop/BM-GP/Coupon weapons as often as we used to, a few years back.. this is so we can get into the ZP vibe of wanting to spend more & more to get addicted (than some of us already are) for this games weapons.
The (Dev's) are releasing much less permanent weapons and replacing it with events that give 'some' ZP Crates/Tickets instead, which overall is worse for all the collectors and players out there that depend on free permanent weapon release's as they need certain new weapons or types to complete their bags (like myself).
It's ironic that they (Z8) are very strict in releasing free permanent weapons for GP Crates/Coupons, but yet they release events with loads of ZP Crate/Ticket offers/Chances...
Our Modest Conclusion to Z8:
Many would much prefer events that rewarded temporary items and hardly ever give ZP Crates/Tickets BUT have a rotation of every 4-6 months (at the least) for new GP Crate weapons/Coupon exchange weapons available to the free players/all players. (To counter GP farming abuse better, these new GP Crates could be Coupon-less as a few already are & Coupon system should be set to higher Tiers for the best permanent rewards, everyone would be happier).
P.S: This is NOT a flame thread, this is just facts or misunderstood perceptions of what Z8 is doing to the community... we are fed up of begging for wanting new rotational weapons (at least one or two times a year).. it's not too much we are asking for and I don't know why Z8 makes a big deal out of it, lol..
The (Dev's) are releasing much less permanent weapons and replacing it with events that give 'some' ZP Crates/Tickets instead, which overall is worse for all the collectors and players out there that depend on free permanent weapon release's as they need certain new weapons or types to complete their bags (like myself).
It's ironic that they (Z8) are very strict in releasing free permanent weapons for GP Crates/Coupons, but yet they release events with loads of ZP Crate/Ticket offers/Chances...
Our Modest Conclusion to Z8:
Many would much prefer events that rewarded temporary items and hardly ever give ZP Crates/Tickets BUT have a rotation of every 4-6 months (at the least) for new GP Crate weapons/Coupon exchange weapons available to the free players/all players. (To counter GP farming abuse better, these new GP Crates could be Coupon-less as a few already are & Coupon system should be set to higher Tiers for the best permanent rewards, everyone would be happier).
P.S: This is NOT a flame thread, this is just facts or misunderstood perceptions of what Z8 is doing to the community... we are fed up of begging for wanting new rotational weapons (at least one or two times a year).. it's not too much we are asking for and I don't know why Z8 makes a big deal out of it, lol..
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The thing is I dont really care and neither do they, Sure They dont add much gp guns but why does it matter ? They are all going to be worse then the stock guns, 2 they are a company and GMS dont have much say in which comes out. 3 If you dont like it dont play, Its as simple as that and I know your not trolling but making this thread is pointless because we already all know what z8 is after. Though the gms are trying to attract new people with the streams and such which is cool. And its already to late for z8 to change, This version of cf is already becoming Like CF NA and people will always be spending high amounts like my self on zp crates / vips & even if we all stopped buying zp, this version would just shut down.
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PLatnuimDE wrote: »The thing is I dont really care, Sure They dont add much gp guns but why does it matter ? They are all going to be worse then the stock guns, 2 they are a company and GMS dont have much say in which comes out. 3 If you dont like it dont play, Its as simple as that and I know your not trolling but making this thread is pointless because we already all know what z8 is after. Though the gms are trying to attract new people with the streams and such which is cool.
Ye your right bro, but what is sad is the fact that they 'USED TO' give us more permanent weapons and more often as well... now since these VIP weapons and such they are just after ZP... what happens to the VIP money they make?
Can't they give us new GP and Coupon permanent weapons every-other specific rotation for our loyalty and hard-work?
I mean if anything... this puts off investors, as they don't get much from their spending other than temporary items/weapons.. -
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Z8 has little say to what content we get. Events that give ZP content are their 'care' for us, players. There's also a fact that we already have decent selection of GP content (even if it feels petty compared to ZP content). We shouldn't blame Z8 for lack of GP and coupon content you're doing now but Devs.
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Dota makes their prize pool off skin sales
[5:16:37 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Cf needs to hop on board with that
[5:17:52 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Literally cf should release 1 esports vip weapon and 1 esports zp crate and give a portion of sales to prizing
Any profit from content is absolutely useless without an esports presence with it. No game will survive without a strong competitive scene.
And as usual, Z8 have no authority over content. You're all talking to the wrong people. -
Z8 has little say to what content we get. Events that give ZP content are their 'care' for us, players. There's also a fact that we already have decent selection of GP content (even if it feels petty compared to ZP content). We shouldn't blame Z8 for lack of GP and coupon content you're doing now but Devs.
Okay fair enough, Z8 are not to blame, they have very little power... BUT it doesn't justify the fact that they should NOT try to convince respectively that they would like new GP Crates and Coupons every year for our version..
We have freedom of speech rights, the Z8 Staff could constructively and with all respect send them a letter/Email (or w/e) with feedback from our Forums and tell the Koreans (Smilegate) to look into it and if possible give us more available permanent weapons for our Coupon exchange and GP crates (to entice more investors) as it would make all players from the community more satisfied.
There are limits but this is a modest demand of 6 month rotation for new permanent weapon changes, it's not going to put the business down at all, it will rise player numbers if anything.
I don't think there's any excuses, Z8 Staff have to be willing to ask, that's all! -
MasterBrett wrote: »i really hate when players/mods say that.
maybe you haven't noticed, but A LOT of people stopped playing. there's 1 active NA server left and i certainly don't want them to take that advice too.
My account is from 09, And people are not quiting because Z8 is not adding new gp guns or new cupon exchanges. Either they got bored of tired of the hacking ahmeds.Ye your right bro, but what is sad is the fact that they 'USED TO' give us more permanent weapons and more often as well... now since these VIP weapons and such they are just after ZP... what happens to the VIP money they make?
Can't they give us new GP and Coupon permanent weapons every-other specific rotation for our loyalty and hard-work?
I mean if anything... this puts off investors, as they don't get much from their spending other than temporary items/weapons..
Well the money isnt going anywhere useful.. But why does it honestly matter if they add new gp crates or gp guns? They wont be rare and they will most likely all suck ass.
And Z8 mainly focus on CF China or w.e the most populated version is. All's na gets is the updates a year later. Just be happy the game is still running with very little hackers at this point. -
[MOD]Fizzeq wrote: »Dota makes their prize pool off skin sales
[5:16:37 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Cf needs to hop on board with that
[5:17:52 PM] [Mod]Zzxq, ESG Admin: Literally cf should release 1 esports vip weapon and 1 esports zp crate and give a portion of sales to prizing
Any profit from content is absolutely useless without an esports presence with it. No game will survive without a strong competitive scene.
And as usual, Z8 have no authority over content. You're all talking to the wrong people.
Your absolutely right with the above comment that we are talking to the wrong people, I have figured that out lately (I know I realised after all these years).
Nether the less this should NOT be an exception, if Z8 don't have power they at least have communication and that's a fact. So that said, what could be done first is if a wonderful/helpful MOD like yourself was willing to pass on this information/feedback to one of higher authority in the Z8 Team and then they could take it from there. A higher Z8 Team member could then send an Email, stating if with all respect Smile-Gate could change our BM GP Crates and Coupon Exchange permanent weapons more often, annually as our investors/free players would be more greatly appreciated for the ZP they spend in-game.
That way we would know if Smile-Gate would agree.. at least Z8 would try if they did this, players would be more delighted for the efforts.
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@ PLatnuimDE - We are grateful on other aspects of the game, we are happy there's no hackers at this time but what you don't want to understand or simply don't care about (but others do) is getting more for your money/time spent in-game. -
-You get lots of zp crates by just playing the damn game
-You have lots of powerfull weapons in free and easy to get zombie mode crates(dev city)
-We have the largest GP blackmarket
-They still add GP guns to item shop from time to time
-They changed the daily mission reward
-Most "collectors" play with default m4 and ak nowadays aparently
-Most "collectors" only play with a few guns and the rest of them just gather dust
-We still have permanent coupon weapons and yet genius people complain that they have 4 of the same gold weapon which they dont even use it,well here's a hint: why dont you get the temporary weapons aswell instead of getting the same dust collector weapon 4 times? Rocket science?
You basically get lots of free sh** which isnt GP item shop,without you spending any cash whatsoever and you still have complaints?
I swear all people do is complain and not thank for what they have/get.Nothing is flawless. -
-You get lots of zp crates by just playing the damn game
-You have lots of powerfull weapons in free and easy to get zombie mode crates(dev city)
-We have the largest GP blackmarket
-They still add GP guns to item shop from time to time
-They changed the daily mission reward
-Most "collectors" play with default m4 and ak nowadays aparently
-Most "collectors" only play with a few guns and the rest of them just gather dust
-We still have permanent coupon weapons and yet genius people complain that they have 4 of the same gold weapon which they dont even use it,well here's a hint: why dont you get the temporary weapons aswell instead of getting the same dust collector weapon 4 times? Rocket science?
You basically get lots of free sh** which isnt GP item shop,without you spending any cash whatsoever and you still have complaints?
I swear all people do is complain and not thank for what they have/get.Nothing is flawless.
I know right.. They want " NEW GP GUNS " to collect ? Lmfao -
-You get lots of zp crates by just playing the damn game
-You have lots of powerfull weapons in free and easy to get zombie mode crates
-We have the largest GP blackmarket
-They still add GP guns to item shop from time to time
-They changed the daily mission reward
-Most "collectors" play with default m4 and ak nowadays aparently
-Most "collectors" only play with a few guns and the rest of them just gather dust
-We still have permanent coupon weapons and yet genius people complain that they have 4 of the same gold weapon which they dont even use it,well here's a hint: why dont you get the temporary weapons aswell instead of getting the same dust collector weapon 4 times? Rocket science?
You basically get lots of free sh** which isnt GP item shop,without you spending any cash whatsoever and you still have complaints?
I swear all people do is complain and not thank for what they have/get.Nothing is flawless.
Yes we have a big Item Shop, yes we get lots of Crates from ZM mode, yes to all that... but your only stating what we have and deviating from where the actual problems are (where we lack)..
I'm just talking about the GP Crates and Coupon weapons, when was the last time they updated with permanent weapons?.. Exactly a long time ago, yrs ago in-fact. The problem is that free players like me who rarely spend in-game, and don't want to buy the rubbish or common type of weapons from the Mall and rather save up for the unique hard to get weapons are unsatisfied. Collectors want to see a rotation more often anyway, as they get loads of Coupons from ZP Crates and get fed up in exchanging the Coupons for repeated and useless weapons like the Gold Winchester, ect.
I have my point and i'm sticking with it.. it doesn't cost Z8 to talk to Smile-Gate and see what they have to say about this situation. -
Yes we have a big Item Shop, yes we get lots of Crates from ZM mode, yes to all that... but your only stating what we have and deviating from where the actual problems are (where we lack)..
I'm just talking about the GP Crates and Coupon weapons, when was the last time they updated with permanent weapons?.. Exactly a long time ago, yrs ago in-fact. The problem is that free players like me who rarely spend in-game, and don't want to buy the rubbish or common type of weapons from the Mall and rather save up for the unique hard to get weapons are unsatisfied. Collectors want to see a rotation more often anyway, as they get loads of Coupons from ZP Crates and get fed up in exchanging the Coupons for repeated and useless weapons like the Gold Winchester, ect.
I have my point and i'm sticking with it.. it doesn't cost Z8 to talk to Smile-Gate and see what they have to say about this situation.
So you're basically saying that the last GP crate permanent weapon camed years ago? Mhmm,sure
There is no problem with what the game gives you for FREE,the only problem is that people are greedy as fu**,and (mostly kids) all they want is FREE,FREE,FREE stuff without doing anything for it.You already get alot of it and you still want more.
Collectors dont want anything,they have lots and lots of dust collecting weapons to play with it,you dont need to worry yourself for them. -
Double post,exactly:
All you can see on forums are complaints,complaints,complaints,complaints and etc,not a single word of thanks. What do other people who play the game see?(those who dont go on forums that much) complaints and complaints,NO WONDER they leave the game when all they can see is people mocking it.(yeah,thats one reason aswell,would you stay in a game that has lots of negative feedback?)
If you dont want more "people to leave the game" then dont give them anymore reasons to leave,cuz they already have enough of them already. -
Yes we have a big Item Shop, yes we get lots of Crates from ZM mode, yes to all that... but your only stating what we have and deviating from where the actual problems are (where we lack)..
I'm just talking about the GP Crates and Coupon weapons, when was the last time they updated with permanent weapons?.. Exactly a long time ago, yrs ago in-fact. The problem is that free players like me who rarely spend in-game, and don't want to buy the rubbish or common type of weapons from the Mall and rather save up for the unique hard to get weapons are unsatisfied. Collectors want to see a rotation more often anyway, as they get loads of Coupons from ZP Crates and get fed up in exchanging the Coupons for repeated and useless weapons like the Gold Winchester, ect.
I have my point and i'm sticking with it.. it doesn't cost Z8 to talk to Smile-Gate and see what they have to say about this situation.
First of all your greedy as fook wanting free stuff all the time. and trust me i can assure you z8 cares about the community (sometimes).
Face it give up this is one arguement you cant win. -
I'm not saying I want FREE Weapons just given to me effortlessly, I am saying I want more LOTTERY weapons, ones you get from BM Crates (those are not very easy to get as you need a lot of luck to win it with adequate GP spending). You guys are putting words in my mouth just because your ****ing spending all your cash on this game, no problem. Not everyone has money to spend on games, you should know that. ^^
Anyway for the last time... I know their are ways of getting lots of weapons but those weapons are either one of the two: Temporary weapons or Normal non-unique,weapons like the ones from GP Mall/FP Mall (the easiest ones to get that everyone has). Lots of players like myself only collect Black Market permanent weapons and we would just like to see at least 1 OR 2 changes a year (not asking too much if you can read perfectly, I don't think that's greedy... Our Coupon System hasn't updated in years (I can't recall exactly, that's how long ago it's been). GP crates maybe hasn't been a year yet, but we rarely see that change too.
I am just asking politely without offence to you guys that I and many others who are non-forumites would like to see a more frequent change for everyone, ironic that this is good for investors as well since they get lots of GP and Coupons so it's good for them too (thus I am not greedy and thinking about myself).
I am sure many ZP investors are fed up of converting Coupons for the same repeated Gold items.. they have no choice or else they can't spin ever again!
That is all guys, anwyay no1 here can help me TBH... I will ask a MOD to pass on this concern to someone who can contact Smile-Gate. Thanks for the lack of support.. no wonder we hardly get anything non-ZP permanent around here.. we have many players who are happy with the FP mall weapons as well as ZM temporary weapons lolz..
Anyway, thanks again for your opinions. -
I'm not saying I want FREE Weapons just given to me effortlessly, I am saying I want more LOTTERY weapons, ones you get from BM Crates
We know that from page 1 that you want more and more and you're not happy/grateful with what you have.Biggest GP blackmarket and you want more. Greedyness at its finest.
(not to mention the wall of text)I am sure many ZP investors are fed up of converting Coupons for the same repeated Gold items.. they have no choice or else they can't spin ever again!
They have,its called temporary items. Again,you really dont need to worry or speak in the name of those who spend $$$$$$. -
I'm just talking about the GP Crates and Coupon weapons, when was the last time they updated with permanent weapons?.. Exactly a long time ago, yrs ago in-fact.
Just want to point something out, if I recall correctly the 100 coupon prizes have only changed once. Yes the current prizes have been there for more then a year now, but so were the Golden M4 and AK, yet when they removed them people complained. -
The GP content we have is already too much
I don't know how much money you spend or generally if you spend any but I can assure you a typical CF player who doesn't spend money on this game will never be able to aqcuire all the permanent GP stuff (item shop, blackmarket) available
I have 3 million GP sitting in my storage but i don't really care
On the other hand there are players with the same amounts of gp who want new gp weapons every patch
This is just nonsense
And once again i state that for a player not spending money the GP items are already enough
As for the coupons, well it is the devs' choice we can't do anything
Every patch we get new ZP crates but we can't blame them
They need profit to run the game
Lastly I'm really satisfied with the ZP rewards from the events
We have chances of getting for free good weapons, coupons and big amounts of gp
That's all
Be thankful with what you have
Other CF version are garbage compared to this one -
Well I think the amount of gp content is decent, its nothing compared to all the zp items but still.
What just really annoys me and got me to stop buying zp is how they try to get more zp for less ingame weapons.
For example if I would buy, lets say 140k zp:
I would be able to get a nice m4 silver or ak silver, and some other bonuspoint items and probably also an m16A2.
Then if I bought crates I would be sure to get a nice ak knife, or awm camo or one of the other nice perm items.
And if you got really really lucky you would also win a crate weapon.
So in the end that amount of zp got you around 3/4 perm weapons.
And how is that now? You spin all your crates, you probably dont win anyways so you end up with 0 perm weapons and 1 90day weapon that you dont really care about...thats it. If that isnt a downgrade I dont know what is. And 100coupons for a winchester? That could have been an april fools joke, but a really bad one tho.
And now people are going to say "ohh stop crying just buy a vip if you want to be sure of a perm weapon" , well no. Not Everyone likes those OP spray canons, I would like it way more to play with a nice AK Xmas or something and practise my aim with that. -
Well I think the amount of gp content is decent, its nothing compared to all the zp items but still.
What just really annoys me and got me to stop buying zp is how they try to get more zp for less ingame weapons.
For example if I would but, lets say 140k zp:
I would be able to get a nice m4 silver or ak silver, and some other bonuspoint items and probably also an m16A2.
Then if I bought crates I would be sure to get a nice ak knife, or awm camo or one of the other nice perm items.
And if you got really really lucky you would also win a crate weapon.
So in the end that amount of zp got you around 3/4 perm weapons.
And how is that now? You spin all your crates, you probably dont win anyways so you end up with 0 perm weapons and 1 90day weapon that you dont really care about...thats it. If that isnt a downgrade I dont know what is. And 100coupons for a winchester? That could have been an april fools joke, but a really bad one tho.
And now people are going to say "ohh stop crying just buy a vip if you want to be sure of a perm weapon" , well no. Not Everyone likes those OP spray canons, I would like it way more to play with a nice AK Xmas or something and practise my aim with that.
Finally someone who understands me... some people here don't understand sh*t.. but you do. I am not being ungrateful, i'm just being honest that we used to have better rewards for investors and non-investors but they took those permanent weapons away from the C.E.S. I was just asking for support to see if Z8 could pass on his feedback, I've been told that Z8 can only do so much but if at least they tried to contact Smile-Gate (at least once on this matter) and ask for just a rotational change in the BM (excluding ZP Crates) it would motivate players to spend more time/money towards the game.
Yes we have a big GP Item Shop and we have lots of Temporary weapon choices but most players would feel much better if we got LESS of those and more of the permanent stuff (upon spending) from the BM, no doubt. -
Well I think the amount of gp content is decent, its nothing compared to all the zp items but still.
What just really annoys me and got me to stop buying zp is how they try to get more zp for less ingame weapons.
For example if I would buy, lets say 140k zp:
I would be able to get a nice m4 silver or ak silver, and some other bonuspoint items and probably also an m16A2.
Then if I bought crates I would be sure to get a nice ak knife, or awm camo or one of the other nice perm items.
And if you got really really lucky you would also win a crate weapon.
So in the end that amount of zp got you around 3/4 perm weapons.
And how is that now? You spin all your crates, you probably dont win anyways so you end up with 0 perm weapons and 1 90day weapon that you dont really care about...thats it. If that isnt a downgrade I dont know what is. And 100coupons for a winchester? That could have been an april fools joke, but a really bad one tho.
And now people are going to say "ohh stop crying just buy a vip if you want to be sure of a perm weapon" , well no. Not Everyone likes those OP spray canons, I would like it way more to play with a nice AK Xmas or something and practise my aim with that.
I remember saying something similar in other thread.
Here it is: http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=4251430&postcount=24 -
I remember saying something similar in other thread.
Here it is: http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=4251430&postcount=24
Yes bro, I am glad we are on the same page. It's the truth after all.... Yes Z8 is being more generous for the FREE players lately but mainly on (temporary stuff like weapons from ZM & FP Mall ect) but they are forgetting about investors who want permanent weapons listed for spending in-game like we used to have. Free players (like myself who rarely spend in-game) could also work towards something unique/customised permanent other than just having temporary or normal GP Shop weapons if the C.E.S (Coupon Exchange System) would rotate permanent change, more often.
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My point is:
How does a company do well without having all 3 business attributes from time to time: Promotion, Sales and Bonuses?...
Okay, CF does do sales and promo's now and then but other bonuses are cut off right now. Maybe it's just hard to accept that we used to have more than we have now and we (me and others) have not got used to the change of the removal in Bonus Point's Mall and most Permanent wep's in C.E.S.
What's next?... Many say we have a good Version of CF (weps wise) but I doubt this will last if we don't complain constructively from time to time. We might be giving the wrong impression to SG as they think we are content with these temporary wep's and fake asf to win wep's from these events.
Like I said before, I just really wish someone in our Z8 Team could give it a shot and contact SG and ask respectively for a "rotation of change" in our BM for GP Crates and permanent Coupon weapons (at least 3 new perm's for 100 Coupons and 1 new GP weapon for Crates, every 4-6 months). -
What's next?... Many say we have a good Version of CF (weps wise) but I doubt this will last if we don't complain constructively from time to time. We might be giving the wrong impression to SG as they think we are content with these temporary wep's and fake asf to win wep's from these events.
You ONLY complain about what you have and you want more. Enough with the walls of text,noones gonna pay anymore attention to those.
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