[READ]The Community Needs an Answer! NEW GP CONTENT
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Think of what I'll say what you want; I'm a free player for the past 5 years now.
More GP content is nice and all, but a non-paying player will never own all of it
I own almost every GP Item shop/Crate gun there is and even have an AK-Fury and never spent a dime since 2009 and that was only 50$. Ak-Fury was a gift, so if you play hard then you can own them all.
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Topic: GP content
We've been BEGGING for new GP content for months.
For many MANY MANY months. I feel like the Z8 team has stopped listening to the community. Yeah they'll fix bugs and add patches and stuff, but whens the last time they actually added something to the game that the community decided on? The last time i remember was to remove a piece of paper off the ground on a map no one plays anymore.
Why isnt this in the suggestion section? Cause I'm tired of the community not being listened too.
If you really want your old players and new players to stick around i suggest adding more items that are easily available to players. If the there's a reason why they can't/won't can you at least make a comment on it so we can know that you've stopped caring?
Is there something stopping the z8 team? I mean how much would adding a perm regular m4a1 silenced or a perm combat axe to the gp black market or coupons hurt your profits? We don't want more reskins. We don't want more maps we won't play. I get that z8 has to add these updates into the game but whats stopping them from adding a little more?
Please im speaking from almost the entire community here that we want more gp content. It gets really old playing a game that never changes.
Examples
-Apparel
-Gp Black market weapons (m4a1-s, combat axe, a lmg)
-Coupons section updates
-More cool events like the Summer school event
-Community vote on the next gp crate & coupon weapons
I truly believe this is how the community will be kept alive. By listening to their cries, and not ignoring them for months.
The big question to z8? Why won't you listen and what's stopping you ?
Please comment your opinions. WE NEED AN ANSWER.
Supporters
aWngasm, TinyDash, Gunray, HAWK456, its_meeeh, nGhost, iDupree, Pho, beboandgogo2, MrBI6, [3Fan, M4A1_Patriot, EgybtVIB, one_I, LOLsucks, seafrog, HORYSHET, Jlu4HocTb, A_F_F
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' wrote:K[illa;4251711']I own almost every GP Item shop/Crate gun there is and even have an AK-Fury and never spent a dime since 2009 and that was only 50$. Ak-Fury was a gift, so if you play hard then you can own them all.
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Not the point of this thread. Why would i make something that goes against my thoughts and the entire topic of this thread? Please think of a better insult. durrrrrr
I didn't throw out an insult to you, if I did you probably would have noticed. Normally I wouldn't care but under these circumstances you requested players opinions but you don't take other arguments into consideration. Also you have created a list to show all the people who support your idea but not a list for all the people who oppose your idea. If you're going to add a list then do one for both sides of the story else I and others (people like me) will just look at this as a biased thread in your favour. Show both arguments; the pros and the cons if you wanted to be taken seriously.
Why bother having a court and evidence if we could just send anyone to jail without looking at both sides of the story? Innocent until proven guilty. -
ELmalky7mar wrote: »I didn't throw out an insult to you, if I did you probably would have noticed. Normally I wouldn't care but under these circumstances you requested players opinions but you don't take other arguments into consideration. Also you have created a list to show all the people who support your idea but not a list for all the people who oppose your idea. If you're going to add a list then do one for both sides of the story else I and others (people like me) will just look at this as a biased thread in your favour. Show both arguments; the pros and the cons if you wanted to be taken seriously.
Why bother having a court and evidence if we could just send anyone to jail without looking at both sides of the story? Innocent until proven guilty.
YES. IT IS A BIAS THREAD EXACTLY. What are you going to do about it? Cry?
Cause in court theres usually a discussion about a crime and the penalties are much more severe than a 2 point infraction on a crossfire forums.
Have you ever seen anyone walking around with a petition ask you to sign one that goes against what hes petitioning for if you don't agree with his/her views? Nope.
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I support this since adding zp contents do get a little boring because we have to pay to get it but it's a pay2win game anyway. We want not just gp guns but also gp character items as well, something that is permanent not temporary.
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Have you ever seen anyone walking around with a petition ask you to sign one that goes against what hes petitioning for if you don't agree with his/her views? Nope.
What are you going to do about it? Cry?
#logic
You would sign a petition you didn't agree with? I guess you have never heard of this thing called feedback, depending on what the cause was I would promote against it if it was deemed necessary. It's the same thing here, you are going to get exactly what is on my mind and nothing less. I will continue to promote against this in this very thread because my points against this cause are very real and If you actually took the time to read what I had to say maybe you would have noticed this. However, this is not the case as greedy players like you would like to put 50 types of different guns to jam inside your 4 bags.
If threads like this demanding change were actually implemented into the game then we would have an Egyptian server and Australian server by now. One million "+1's" is not going to get you change, if this case were in-fact true then the numerous threads made about the above servers would have existed in the game, one of those threads which had 100 pages of replies and 1000 posts made by accounts with less than 2 posts saying "+1". You are not seeing this from the companies perspective and no businesses minded person would accept a proposal like this if they have been doing more than great for a steady period of time, which is more than 5 years. They don't need us to tell them how to run the company, because they in-fact are the ones doing all the deals behind closed doors and making it the success it is today.
Like I said before, change is not taken lightly around here. A former GM was fired because of this exact reason; because he wanted to pitch the very idea you are trying to sell on the forums. If it did not work for an employee who worked for over or around 6 years for G4Box, which might I add he had a great reputation. What makes you think they will listen to a community, which, by the way, complains about everything? Are you going to tell a lion to become a vegetarian because it's not right to hunt and prey on other animals?
Bare in mind, just because they release a new GP gun it does not mean your idea worked, they are releasing on schedule.
I will support this idea and become a pro-supporter if we are allowed to request all VIP's to be changed to GP for the price of 100 GP * day. -
I support this since adding zp contents do get a little boring because we have to pay to get it but it's a pay2win game anyway. We want not just gp guns but also gp character items as well, something that is permanent not temporary.
that's not true. In the past rate win a permanent gun from black market so high ( 50~70 crates to win). And if we were unlucky just replace our coupons which we collected in the BM with permanent gun from coupon slots. so we were say pay2win
NOW rate win permanent guns became so rare, Permanent guns in coupon slots replaced with a temporary guns. so you can say Pay2fail not pay2win. -
Look at this objectively, there is no reason for us not to accept easy gains. For example, like many of you have said, new weapons are just re-skins, so yes, Z8's profits will be hurt if everyone can buy an Axe with GP. Don't neglect the FP shop (remember the Broken Kukri?) - that's even easier to get than anything worth GP.
On a positive note, Axe and Shovel will become easier to obtain (by GP or even FP) once Z8 agrees that there is something even more OP (like Boxing Gloves).
tl;dr They need to maintain a clear barrier between donator and regular players. -
ELmalky7mar wrote: »You would sign a petition you didn't agree with?
No? I don't think you understood me. You asked "where is the list of non-supporters". I said that wouldn't make sense because it is a thread promoting gp items, and theres no point in having a non-supporter list.
No one pushing for a petition is going to have 2 sides you can pick. One where you can sign that you agree and one that says you don't agree. Since when do you rally your "enemies" against yourself.
Even in the dumb example you used about the court case. The prosecution NEVER helps the defendant side, and the same about the reverse. I mean why would they? They are on completely opposite sides?
In your metaphor you are making me the judge, but in actuality i am the prosecutor, i am on one side, and ONLY one side.
#logicELmalky7mar wrote: »I guess you have never heard of this thing called feedback, depending on what the cause was I would promote against it if it was deemed necessary. It's the same thing here, you are going to get exactly what is on my mind and nothing less.
uhh...... what do you think everyone on this thread has posted. I guess you have never heard of this "thing" called feedback cause everyone around you is doing it. You aren't special. Little egy troll.ELmalky7mar wrote: »I will continue to promote against this in this very thread because my points against this cause are very real and If you actually took the time to read what I had to say maybe you would have noticed this. However, this is not the case as greedy players like you would like to put 50 types of different guns to jam inside your 4 bags.
Oh im sorry, asking for a few gp guns and items is greedy. You've never wanted anything in your life? If we want something, guess what, we ask for it and we have, for 5+ years. Im sorry thats just the truth. And according to you if you ask for something you are automatically considered greedy. I have enough guns to satisfy myself, im looking out for the community and their new members, not the ones who are stuck in their VIP fantasy land where they believe they don't need any other gun.ELmalky7mar wrote: »
Okay then
If threads like this demanding change were actually implemented into the game then we would have an Egyptian server and Australian server by now. One million "+1's" is not going to get you change, if this case were in-fact true then the numerous threads made about the above servers would have existed in the game, one of those threads which had 100 pages of replies and 1000 posts made by accounts with less than 2 posts saying "+1". You are not seeing this from the companies perspective and no businesses minded person would accept a proposal like this if they have been doing more than great for a steady period of time, which is more than 5 years. They don't need us to tell them how to run the company, because they in-fact are the ones doing all the deals behind closed doors and making it the success it is today.
Like I said before, change is not taken lightly around here. A former GM was fired because of this exact reason; because he wanted to pitch the very idea you are trying to sell on the forums. If it did not work for an employee who worked for over or around 6 years for G4Box, which might I add he had a great reputation. What makes you think they will listen to a community, which, by the way, complains about everything? Are you going to tell a lion to become a vegetarian because it's not right to hunt and prey on other animals?
Then what do you suggest, do nothing? Cause thats going to get us somewhere. I'll repeat myself, you MISS 100% of ALL the shots you don't take.
Oh btw, its worked before.
Ie
Wallbang added to M4 Iron beast
More zp giveaway events ( Like the Summer school event, that even you said you approved of )
Patches of glitches (like the one they JUST patched in Cehyan)
Removal of Quran on the ground on one of the mapsELmalky7mar wrote: »Bare in mind, just because they release a new GP gun it does not mean your idea worked, they are releasing on schedule.
Glad you understand that basic concept.
I don't expect this to work. But its still worth a shot. Is it so wrong to try? I'll answer that for you, no. Even if it ends up being a waste of time, it shows that i still care about this game and its community.ELmalky7mar wrote: »I will support this idea and become a pro-supporter if we are allowed to request all VIP's to be changed to GP for the price of 100 GP * day.
In that case i'll add you to the list thanks for the support! -
ZenithAnnul wrote: »Why am I not in the supporter list?
VERY good question.same,so i'm in(supporting)
Thanks!Look at this objectively, there is no reason for us not to accept easy gains.
Uhhhhh yeah there is. So new players can actually put up a fight with older veterans and they wont quit after 10 consecutive deaths from full wallbang m4s? -
No? I don't think you understood me.
In that case i'll add you to the list thanks for the support!
I know, right. Sometimes it just feels like I am living on an entire different planet but then I realize life itself is just an illusion we so blindly follow.
DEAR SMILEGATE,
I am sick and tired of being treated like someone or something that is irrelevant what you don't understand that is all the "little people" (community) together makes one big person and one loud voice, our voice will be heard whether you want to listen or not! I demand that the VIP gun is removed from premium sales and put on the GP market. In my country the VIP gun is a symbol of freedom and by limiting this gun to a certain market you are depriving the people from the freedom they deserve. This is beyond outrages that a company as big as yourself would want to profit off my symbol of freedom. Freedom is not purchased with money, this is a direct violation of the legislation and I will stop at nothing short pursing this endeavor to make freedom a basic right in 2015.
This is 2015 and I think that it is beyond comprehensible how much it angers me inside, that only a certain group can have a certain gun. Where is equality for guns in this world that we live in? This is pure injustice and I am hurting so deeply inside. I can't stop myself, I am a flammable fluid and you have just lit the match that started the fire but you shall fear the flame. We as a community will come and give you zero stars on Google Reviews, along with leaving negative vibes on how this game promotes a racial lifestyle. I will not stand by here deprived of my rights. I would like my VIP weapons and now!
Our reviews will hit you harder than airstrikes!
Boycott SmileGate and empower the people! Together we shall OVERTHROW YOUR AUTHORITY!
#vip4GP
HERE is more information about our basic requirement.
VIP weapons shall be put into the GP storage, refunding everyone who purchased these items with money.
1 day of VIP = 100 GP. The price will increase but multiplied by the day. 7 days of VIP would now be equal to 700 GP and so on. Price is negotiable.
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I'm afraid that this thread is going to come to an end with a detailed wrap-up. I like to be direct and factual, likely to avoid opinion.
First of all, I understand the direction that many of you are approaching from. You claim that there's not enough GP content to balance with the ratio of the number of pages of ZP crates and in the game item shop. However it is essential that you realize that's the fundamental way a company seeking to make profit... makes profit. Something like VIP for GP, is never going to happen. Sorry about that, but thanks for your fantasized suggestions.
Secondly, this questioning statement claim has flaws. Six years since the release of Crossfire open beta and the fact that Z8Games does not control the content release aspect of the game. Of course there IS something stopping Z8, they cannot make the decision. While that is unfortunate, the GMs haven't forgotten about the community. The effort of viewing these threads have been put in. But I think it's time that we (once again) crush your hopes for multiplicative GP content.Is there something stopping the z8 team? I mean how much would adding a perm regular m4a1 silenced or a perm combat axe to the gp black market or coupons hurt your profits? We don't want more reskins. We don't want more maps we won't play. I get that z8 has to add these updates into the game but whats stopping them from adding a little more?
A third aspect I want to quickly touch upon is the pay2win model that people have suggested. It is absolutely NOT the case, regardless of the said perks of the M4 vips and the barretts, etc etc. I can vouch that every single competitive player will be able to outplay a full wallbang M4 or barrett vip with a regular M4, AK, AWM, Deagle, etc. How can the game be pay2win if 1) it's 100% your choice to spend money and 2) you are not guaranteed victory with an upgraded reskin of an original gun to the game?
Crossfire is play2win just as is some of the other online multiplayer games out there that you also play; LoL, Dota, CS, and so on. Some of the games like Crossfire, you don't even have to first buy off the game. There is no monthly subscription involved like warcraft!
I am not sure what this is supposed to mean. Change to a FPS game sounds really awkward, because there isn't a meta. All of the maps are free and so is competing.Please im speaking from almost the entire community here that we want more gp content. It gets really old playing a game that never changes.
If you want to change from always playing against full wallbang 'op' guns, play some of our competitive leagues! Definitely opened up for new players. If you feel like you can't fight the op guns, start playing against players that aren't using them to improve your aim and up your skill level. And if by any chance you don't think you would like to do that, then it isn't necessarily the game or the company's fault. It's your skill level - your work to improve.
I think that I've rambled on for awhile, but I hope to wrap it with [GM]Chaosta's messages. Your vote doesn't actually count if the company does not permit of any sort of voting/petitioning for content. The content will naturally arrive as scheduled, we as players don't actually control what the Smilegate headquarters want to bring out for CFNA/UK. It's not our choice, and it's not Z8Games' EITHER. Thank you for listening, and certainly for understanding.
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