[READ]The Community Needs an Answer! NEW GP CONTENT
Topic: GP content
We've been BEGGING for new GP content for months.
For many MANY MANY months. I feel like the Z8 team has stopped listening to the community. Yeah they'll fix bugs and add patches and stuff, but whens the last time they actually added something to the game that the community decided on? The last time i remember was to remove a piece of paper off the ground on a map no one plays anymore.
Why isnt this in the suggestion section? Cause I'm tired of the community not being listened too.
If you really want your old players and new players to stick around i suggest adding more items that are easily available to players. If the there's a reason why they can't/won't can you at least make a comment on it so we can know that you've stopped caring?
Is there something stopping the z8 team? I mean how much would adding a perm regular m4a1 silenced or a perm combat axe to the gp black market or coupons hurt your profits? We don't want more reskins. We don't want more maps we won't play. I get that z8 has to add these updates into the game but whats stopping them from adding a little more?
Please im speaking from almost the entire community here that we want more gp content. It gets really old playing a game that never changes.
Examples
-Apparel
-Gp Black market weapons (m4a1-s, combat axe, a lmg)
-Coupons section updates
-More cool events like the Summer school event
-Community vote on the next gp crate & coupon weapons
I truly believe this is how the community will be kept alive. By listening to their cries, and not ignoring them for months.
The big question to z8? Why won't you listen and what's stopping you ?
Please comment your opinions. WE NEED AN ANSWER.
Supporters
aWngasm, TinyDash, Gunray, HAWK456, its_meeeh, nGhost, iDupree, Pho, beboandgogo2, MrBI6, [3Fan, M4A1_Patriot, EgybtVIB, one_I, LOLsucks, seafrog, HORYSHET, Jlu4HocTb, A_F_F, ]K[illa, chendoXxz,
ELmalky7mar ( if we make Vips 100 gp ea :rolleyes: ), madnade, Hy0Ye0n, ZenithAnnul,
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Comments
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Saw the colors and tl;dr'd. There are plenty of threads out there like this, begging for new GP content. But the thing is, Z8 Games is after all a business. If you ran a business, would you want to support the paying customers, or those who mooch off the paying customers more?
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Wow. I can honestly say that I fully agree and support this 110%.
Although I'm a ZP *****, I agree that there should be more GP Content available to those who can't afford ZP. But you have to understand that Z8 are money hungry individuals. That very well explains why EVERY single patch is nothing but ZP. This last patch, the last GP item added was the FN FNC. I didn't like it that much but it was kinda fun to use. Same goes with VIPs. I own 5 of them.
I do agree that with the coupon system being replaced with temp crap instead of permanents like all those years ago was a HUGE mistake to do. Most of the crap found in the coupons (Except 100) should be all in Item Shop, NOT COUPONS. I remember back in the day we had the Perm Axe, M4 Crystal, AWM Camo, D.E Gold, M4 Custom, PSG-1 Red Dragon etc. If they didn't remove those today I'd likely have alot of those in my collection cause I buy zp and spin crates alot. The last 3 items I got from the Coupons are:
M4A1 Custom before removal.
AWM Gold
Anaconda Gold.
Not even gonna go for the Winchester Gold cause I have the regular Winchester. Why go for a reskin with the same power? Not worth it.
There are like 8-9 pages of ZP Crates and only what.. 2-3 GP Crate Pages?
Stop adding ZP crates and START ADDING GP CRATES. I agree that every 2 weeks to a month, there should be a poll of which weapons to add to GP Crates or even Item Shop. Other CF Versions like CF BR have alot of the weapons we have in GP Crates as Item Shop weapons but stupidly overpriced but still fair nonetheless.
My proposal even though it'll never happen but always worth a shot.
1. Take out temp crap from coupons and put back what was there before.
2. Move the Winchester Gold and Anaconda Gold and make them ZP or GP Crates. And bring back the M4 and AK Golds.
3. Re Add the Combat Axe to 50 coupons.
4. Take out ZP crates that aren't even popular. I can promise you that HALF of the ZP crates aren't even touched.
5. Maybe move some of the ZP crates and make them GP?
6. Do some sort of conversion thing. ZP to GP. Kind of like World of Tanks, Warships, Warplanes does with their conversion rates from Gold to GP. 1k ZP= 4000 GP. That'd still EARN you guys money. But It's never been done before in CF.
7. Start cleaning out items from the itemshop that aren't even bought. Examples would be some of the clothes and other char clothing that NOBODY buys. Keep the Chars, Keep the Barrets(Cause I use the Major one) and you know the rest.
8. Keep doing events that gives out free crates. Like the summer school event is.
Basically an overall for this, STOP adding ZP content because there's too much ZP STUFF. Stop thinking about YOURSELVES and START thinking about your community and what would be FAIR to them!! I can't stress this enough.Saw the colors and tl;dr'd. There are plenty of threads out there like this, begging for new GP content. But the thing is, Z8 Games is after all a business. If you ran a business, would you want to support the paying customers, or those who mooch off the paying customers more?
You're right on that. But this is an UNBALANCED company. The quality and equality of this game is so far off balanced. If it were balanced, it would earn them more money and more players. -
Rocket launcher with lasers, 20k GP in item shop plez
will support forever, k thanks men +1
Thanks for the support!
Saw the colors and tl;dr'd. There are plenty of threads out there like this, begging for new GP content. But the thing is, Z8 Games is after all a business. If you ran a business, would you want to support the paying customers, or those who mooch off the paying customers more?
Everything is a business. There's a reason why companies have customer support and do everything they can to please their customers. "Customers are always first" is usually the first rule in a business, because without them, the business wouldn't succed. I'm a paying customer ain't I? So according to you that means they should support me. Great! ADD GP CONTENT.[Very well written paragraph]
Thanks so much for your reply. I completely agree. I too am a zp wh0re sometimes. But im still pushing for gp items.Add me to that list right ******* now. +10000000
Will do!
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+1
I rember a suggesion, someone was asking to look at GP crates and GP weapons and you started to attack him and say, no for free players and play by money and things like that.
yeah... so funny ...troll.....
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Can we bring back the combat axe into coupons? It'd be nice instead of having crappy temps
If not at least have it as a crate thats not combined with two other weapons. I believe that having a solo axe crate in either zp or gp would benefit z8 and most of us
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Everything is a business. There's a reason why companies have customer support and do everything they can to please their customers. "Customers are always first" is usually the first rule in a business, because without them, the business wouldn't succed. I'm a paying customer ain't I? So according to you that means they should support me. Great! ADD GP CONTENT.
That's not how a profitable business plan works, but go ahead and keep thinking like that. -
Wow. I can honestly say that I fully agree and support this 110%.
Although I'm a ZP *****, I agree that there should be more GP Content available to those who can't afford ZP. But you have to understand that Z8 are money hungry individuals. That very well explains why EVERY single patch is nothing but ZP. This last patch, the last GP item added was the FN FNC. I didn't like it that much but it was kinda fun to use. Same goes with VIPs. I own 5 of them.
I do agree that with the coupon system being replaced with temp crap instead of permanents like all those years ago was a HUGE mistake to do. Most of the crap found in the coupons (Except 100) should be all in Item Shop, NOT COUPONS. I remember back in the day we had the Perm Axe, M4 Crystal, AWM Camo, D.E Gold, M4 Custom, PSG-1 Red Dragon etc. If they didn't remove those today I'd likely have alot of those in my collection cause I buy zp and spin crates alot. The last 3 items I got from the Coupons are:
M4A1 Custom before removal.
AWM Gold
Anaconda Gold.
Not even gonna go for the Winchester Gold cause I have the regular Winchester. Why go for a reskin with the same power? Not worth it.
There are like 8-9 pages of ZP Crates and only what.. 2-3 GP Crate Pages?
Stop adding ZP crates and START ADDING GP CRATES. I agree that every 2 weeks to a month, there should be a poll of which weapons to add to GP Crates or even Item Shop. Other CF Versions like CF BR have alot of the weapons we have in GP Crates as Item Shop weapons but stupidly overpriced but still fair nonetheless.
My proposal even though it'll never happen but always worth a shot.
1. Take out temp crap from coupons and put back what was there before.
2. Move the Winchester Gold and Anaconda Gold and make them ZP or GP Crates. And bring back the M4 and AK Golds.
3. Re Add the Combat Axe to 50 coupons.
4. Take out ZP crates that aren't even popular. I can promise you that HALF of the ZP crates aren't even touched.
5. Maybe move some of the ZP crates and make them GP?
6. Do some sort of conversion thing. ZP to GP. Kind of like World of Tanks, Warships, Warplanes does with their conversion rates from Gold to GP. 1k ZP= 4000 GP. That'd still EARN you guys money. But It's never been done before in CF.
7. Start cleaning out items from the itemshop that aren't even bought. Examples would be some of the clothes and other char clothing that NOBODY buys. Keep the Chars, Keep the Barrets(Cause I use the Major one) and you know the rest.
8. Keep doing events that gives out free crates. Like the summer school event is.
Basically an overall for this, STOP adding ZP content because there's too much ZP STUFF. Stop thinking about YOURSELVES and START thinking about your community and what would be FAIR to them!! I can't stress this enough.
You're right on that. But this is an UNBALANCED company. The quality and equality of this game is so far off balanced. If it were balanced, it would earn them more money and more players.
Dude they just added fnc riffle in the item shop, but the way it goes I could only say they are the masters and we are the puppets, we have no choice; this thing with gp content is F***ed up. -
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I believe we should not be given more GP guns for a while until the Cross Fire users learn to appreciate how generous they have been with GP crates / weapons and even awesome events. It has come to a point where the more items and the more generous they become the more we ask and seek in return. I think that this is outrageous and at the rate people are requesting and making demands there will be no guns left to release, everything will just become obsolete and people would be complaining even more. They can't just invent guns this is supposed to be a semi-realistic first person shooter, or are you now trying to get something that is out of those boundaries; a GP gun that shoots lava perhaps? No.
Content comes at a certain rate because the GP weapons are usually the clean, versions of the new guns yet to come. Meaning it is original and not a re-skin with a few extra perks. I say they should limit GP content to about 1 gun per yer, not including GP character / item mall, just the guns.
Here is an example of how generous they have been and yet you people still complain!
July 7th, 2015
FN FNC - GP Item Shop
April 7th, 2015
Added SG540 Crate to GP Black Market
February 10th, 2015
KS-23 added to GP weapon shop
December 16th
Added Steyr Elite Crate to GP Black Market
Update - September 18th
ARCH - Marshall Only Character - Available in Shop for GP // Not a gun but something good!
Update - October 23rd
- 2014 CFS Set A added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set B added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set C added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
Update - August 13
870P Breachers - GP Crate Weapon
They have even released events where you can obtain numerous amounts of crates, some which are rare weapons and not to mention free ZP. Stop crying and start thanking!
Example:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304719
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304341
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=305044 -
ELmalky7mar wrote: »-1
I believe we should not be given more GP guns for a while until the Cross Fire users learn to appreciate how generous they have been with GP crates / weapons and even awesome events. It has come to a point where the more items and the more generous they become the more we ask and seek in return. I think that this is outrageous and at the rate people are requesting and making demands there will be no guns left to release, everything will just become obsolete and people would be complaining even more. They can't just invent guns this is supposed to be a semi-realistic first person shooter, or are you now trying to get something that is out of those boundaries; a GP gun that shoots lava perhaps? No.
Content comes at a certain rate because the GP weapons are usually the clean, versions of the new guns yet to come. Meaning it is original and not a re-skin with a few extra perks. I say they should limit GP content to about 1 gun per yer, not including GP character / item mall, just the guns.
Here is an example of how generous they have been and yet you people still complain!
July 7th, 2015
FN FNC - GP Item Shop
April 7th, 2015
Added SG540 Crate to GP Black Market
February 10th, 2015
KS-23 added to GP weapon shop
December 16th
Added Steyr Elite Crate to GP Black Market
Update - September 18th
ARCH - Marshall Only Character - Available in Shop for GP // Not a gun but something good!
Update - October 23rd
- 2014 CFS Set A added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set B added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set C added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
Update - August 13
870P Breachers - GP Crate Weapon
They have even released events where you can obtain numerous amounts of crates, some which are rare weapons and not to mention free ZP. Stop crying and start thanking!
Example:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304719
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304341
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=305044
I totally agree with you +1. -
ELmalky7mar wrote: »-1
I believe we should not be given more GP guns for a while until the Cross Fire users learn to appreciate how generous they have been with GP crates / weapons and even awesome events. It has come to a point where the more items and the more generous they become the more we ask and seek in return. I think that this is outrageous and at the rate people are requesting and making demands there will be no guns left to release, everything will just become obsolete and people would be complaining even more. They can't just invent guns this is supposed to be a semi-realistic first person shooter, or are you now trying to get something that is out of those boundaries; a GP gun that shoots lava perhaps? No.
Content comes at a certain rate because the GP weapons are usually the clean, versions of the new guns yet to come. Meaning it is original and not a re-skin with a few extra perks. I say they should limit GP content to about 1 gun per yer, not including GP character / item mall, just the guns.
Here is an example of how generous they have been and yet you people still complain!
July 7th, 2015
FN FNC - GP Item Shop
April 7th, 2015
Added SG540 Crate to GP Black Market
February 10th, 2015
KS-23 added to GP weapon shop
December 16th
Added Steyr Elite Crate to GP Black Market
Update - September 18th
ARCH - Marshall Only Character - Available in Shop for GP // Not a gun but something good!
Update - October 23rd
- 2014 CFS Set A added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set B added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
- 2014 CFS Set C added to Item Shop under Packages - 20,000 GP
Update - August 13
870P Breachers - GP Crate Weapon
They have even released events where you can obtain numerous amounts of crates, some which are rare weapons and not to mention free ZP. Stop crying and start thanking!
Example:
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304719
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304341
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=305044
I own every GP weapon that's out there. I guess I just collect them. I keep pretty much the same weapons in my bags at all time. I may try a new GP weapon once or twice, Them go back to what I like the best. And yes, I also have ZP, and VIP weapons. -
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They add so much useless maps, modes and zp crap where almost no one is waiting for. If they would stop adding 90% of that stuff and spend the money on things the community actually asks/suggest we would have a much better game. There are soooo many good ideas and suggestions just trown away or ignored for no reason. And no im not saying they should give everyone a m12s scope silenced 100% wall bang one hit for 35k gp, they should balance the zp and gp item way more and think more about what they add instead of just trowing everything in.
And if you want people to buy zp there is one thing you really shouldnt do and that is removing BP and coupon items. You get way less items for the same amount of zp as you wouldve gotten 5 years ago.
Like first the coupon section looked like this:
10 coupons: 90 days mp5 adv
15 coupons: 90 days shovle or axe
25 coupons: 90 days awm camo, m4 adv or sg552 camo
50 coupons: PERM ak camo or axe
60 coupons: PERM m4 custom, aug camo or deagle camo
70 coupons: PERM awm camo or PSG RD
80 coupons: PERM ak knife, M4 s crystal or deagle gold
100 coupons:PERM ak gold or m4 gold
And now? Temp items almost no one wants and at 100 coupons a winchester.......A WINCHESTER? Have fun using that without going 5/20 in snd.
If I bought 120k zp 5 years ago, I would be sure to get atleast an M4 silver or Ak silver from Bp, and maybe an m16A2 or something. I also would get a good amount of coupons and buy a nice combat axe, or ak knife if i got enough. So in total you would be sure to get 2/3 weapons by spending around 100 bucks. And maybe even one more if you got lucky in blackmarket. 100 bucks for a few virtual items is still allot i think but its acceptable.
And now? Buy 120k zp and MAYBE get a crate weapon if you are really really lucky and a temp item from coupons...and thats it. You probably wont win anyways so you just wasted 120k zp on nothing.
And now people are going to say: well buy a vip if you want to be sure of a weapon.
Not everyone wants vips, I would much rather one tap people in the head with a nice M1 Carbine than spraying someone down trough the wall with an OP m4 VIP...
Its just sad how they try to make everything more expensive and hope for more money. Im pretty sure if they gave back the coupon items and BP points people would be much more willing on spending money on blackmarket. Atleast I will.
I do have to admit they are making more nice events tho, more than back in the days. But in my eyes that doesnt weight up against all the things that got worse. -
I have not posted in that thread? I have not "attacked" anyone in that thread ?That's not how a profitable business plan works, but go ahead and keep thinking like that.
Have you even taken a business 101 class in highschool, cause this is basic.
How ignorant do you have to be?
Let me give you an example. When you go to a restaurant and and you ask for an extra plate for your kid. What is the waiter going to do? Say no to you? Hell no, cause if he did, you wouldn't come back to eat ever again.
It sounds like you don't even want z8 to support the non-paying customers aka THE MAJORITY of players on crossfire. Being loyal to your customers creates a bond and is better in the long run. And this is completely based off facts.
A simple google search which you have failed to do proves my point.
I looked up "do you have to be ruthless to succeed in business"
EVERY single link that popped up agreed with my side of the argument/
Do you not realize that the majority of players are non- paying customers? If z8 only supported the small percentage of players that payed, then they couldn't attract more players to pay? or to stay for the matter of fact.
please, check yourself before you wrek yourself.
Your argument in completely invalid.ELmalky7mar wrote: »[response]
U have no idea what you are even talking about do you. Cause those weapons are so good aren't they? Good lord! FN FAL! AMAZING! Silver desert eagle, AMAZING! yeah... no.
Putting in these weapons when players are out there with full wall bang silenced vips?
We are asking to add better AND more gp weapons. M4a1 regular silenced, a combat axe, a decent lmg? would all be just fine. Not a loud ass gun thats worse than a blue crystal m4? *ahem* fn fal
And excuse me? Wait until the crossfire community appreciates their generosity? If you haven't noticed we've been waiting for 2+ years for more gp weapons? And didn't i say in the thread we appreciate the really awesome summer school event and we wanted more like it? Do you think that the community doesn't appreciate the events and gp items the have already added? The point of this thread is to add MORE.
You want proof that the community appreciates their generosity?
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=304341 -This is from the summer school event, look at almost all the comments.
Your argument is completely invalid. -
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They add so much useless maps, modes and zp crap where almost no one is waiting for. If they would stop adding 90% of that stuff and spend the money on things the community actually asks/suggest we would have a much better game. There are soooo many good ideas and suggestions just trown away or ignored for no reason. And no im not saying they should give everyone a m12s scope silenced 100% wall bang one hit for 35k gp, they should balance the zp and gp item way more and think more about what they add instead of just trowing everything in.
And if you want people to buy zp there is one thing you really shouldnt do and that is removing BP and coupon items. You get way less items for the same amount of zp as you wouldve gotten 5 years ago.
Like first the coupon section looked like this:
10 coupons: 90 days mp5 adv
15 coupons: 90 days shovle or axe
25 coupons: 90 days awm camo, m4 adv or sg552 camo
50 coupons: PERM ak camo or axe
60 coupons: PERM m4 custom, aug camo or deagle camo
70 coupons: PERM awm camo or PSG RD
80 coupons: PERM ak knife, M4 s crystal or deagle gold
100 coupons:PERM ak gold or m4 gold
And now? Temp items almost no one wants and at 100 coupons a winchester.......A WINCHESTER? Have fun using that without going 5/20 in snd.
If I bought 120k zp 5 years ago, I would be sure to get atleast an M4 silver or Ak silver from Bp, and maybe an m16A2 or something. I also would get a good amount of coupons and buy a nice combat axe, or ak knife if i got enough. So in total you would be sure to get 2/3 weapons by spending around 100 bucks. And maybe even one more if you got lucky in blackmarket. 100 bucks for a few virtual items is still allot i think but its acceptable.
And now? Buy 120k zp and MAYBE get a crate weapon if you are really really lucky and a temp item from coupons...and thats it. You probably wont win anyways so you just wasted 120k zp on nothing.
And now people are going to say: well buy a vip if you want to be sure of a weapon.
Not everyone wants vips, I would much rather one tap people in the head with a nice M1 Carbine than spraying someone down trough the wall with an OP m4 VIP...
Its just sad how they try to make everything more expensive and hope for more money. Im pretty sure if they gave back the coupon items and BP points people would be much more willing on spending money on blackmarket. Atleast I will.
I do have to admit they are making more nice events tho, more than back in the days. But in my eyes that doesnt weight up against all the things that got worse.
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Think of what I'll say what you want; I'm a free player for the past 5 years now.
More GP content is nice and all, but a non-paying player will never own all of it, and thus it isn't a must -- I own 7 GP crate and 3 GP iteam shop weapons that I'm fully satisfied with. You could say that "it gives more choice for the player", yes, but that's all about that. And if GP is ever an issue there's FP mall that is actually very generous.
Oh, and don't criticise events, they are better than they were before, and that shortens the gap between paying and free player, if free player gets lucky, even if that angers the paying player, but BM is a gamble after all.
Move some unpopular ZP create weapons over to GP section, even make them absurdly priced?, I do agree and support, but it will likely never happen and I wouldn't lose sleep over that.
What Z8 games really needs to do is to focus on the paying players and offer them more value for the buck. And over the past years that dissapeared. Whereas then, you could've exchanged your earned coupons for better, and half of them permanent, iteams than what temporary ones we do have today -- I still own permanent axe from these days. And then we had BP mall, and you could've exchanged you bonus points from ZP purchases for other temporary and permanent stuff.
What I'm getting at with the last paragraph above is that Z8 used to be more generous to the paying players' invested dollar than they are now. Yes, we do get discounts, new release BM weapon bonuses (buy X, get extra) and VIP released deals, but that's not the solution to justify what they removed, in my honest opinion.
Again, I'm a free player and that's what I think. -
Have you even taken a business 101 class in highschool, cause this is basic.
How ignorant do you have to be?
Let me give you an example. When you go to a restaurant and and you ask for an extra plate for your kid. What is the waiter going to do? Say no to you? Hell no, cause if he did, you wouldn't come back to eat ever again.
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I never really agree with Zero on his opinions but I am afraid he is correct so I must support him.
How about you take real life 101?
In your first perspective you gave a clear example of "customer service" which yes, is needed to some extent but you must realize these are two different types of companies with different types of teachings however the motive behind the ambition is similar; which is to succeed and earn profit. Your example is flawed because the person is indeed a paying customer in a very small private profit business. You don't sit inside a restaurant expecting free meals do you? Regardless even if the fact it were free, you would appreciate what you were given on the plate without being too picky or asking for certain standards. In your example this is a paying customer, the reason they would adhere and comply with his / her requirements is because they would like to show a good level of customer service to help bring back positive reviews, tips or even exposure. They are not paying out of their own pockets nor are they losing profit bringing out an extra plate, as you mentioned. This is a little or basic requirement, he asked for another plate, not extra food without having to pay additional costs, for example a free portion of fries. it does not matter which way the table turns, in the event one customer is treated differently being given free food, other customers would like to be treated the same as they have paid for something, either way a tension is caused regardless of how kind and well manner you try to be. These types of rules and basic manner apply to small companies like inbound / outbound call centres and smaller food outlets or something in that sector.
We are talking about corporate giants like SmileGate which is a whole different ball-game. Yes they have followed the same principals from the start up but once you maintain a playerbase (or client base) of huge numbers the aim changes from quality to quantity, this example is used in many, many businesses world wide and not just this company. Once you have a steady flow of clients we no longer have to adapt to their understandings because either way someone would be buying our products or items regardless.
The aim was to hook as many clients as possible with good standards (when they are small) then when they become big they are going to have a constant profit because of their huge numbers, the quantity would beat the quality therefore making much more money and returning higher revenue because they have a much higher percentage of paying people than opposed to their early staring years. For example a new iPhone is released every now and then with little to no changes, yet people buy it? Why? Well because it doesn't matter when you become big, people follow you like sheep regardless of your actions, simply because they want to be a part of you and adapt to the crowd around them. Just like you will continue to buy ZP every now and then and every other person who also agreed to this rant will do so providing they have purchased the virtual currency before.
Being ruthless is how you get at the top and rise in ranks, it shows you are not afraid to make the hard choices and it gives a direct example of how serious you are to thrive at any cost. From time to time things are given out, but this changes or affects them little because it is chump-change hence why free content is usually released but in lower numbers. However the repetition of this not exceeded a lot because it allows people to think they can adjust the mind-set of the company and ride as a free client, each and every time not only that but things would become obsolete at a rapid rate. That is why big businesses make the hard and tough choices and for that exact reason it remains and rises in its ranks.
The restaurant is a staple where SmileGate is a staple gun with staples ready to fire. Big difference.U have no idea what you are even talking about do you. Cause those weapons are so good aren't they? Good lord! FN FAL! AMAZING! Silver desert eagle, AMAZING! yeah... no.
Putting in these weapons when players are out there with full wall bang silenced vips?
I'm not going to argue with a guy who fails to agree on other peoples opinions and perspective but you are not seeing this from their perspective; which is what matters more.
For arguments sake; it does not matter what gun you use, a gun is just a tool, the skill is behind the player who uses it. With that being said it really does not matter what "superior" equipment he / she is using because he / she could be easily beaten with the default m16 or even the standard m4a1. -
ELmalky7mar wrote: »
Being ruthless is how you get at the top and rise in ranks, it shows you are not afraid to make the hard choices and it gives a direct example of how serious you are to thrive at any cost. From time to time things are given out, but this changes or affects them little because it is chump-change hence why free content is usually released but in lower numbers. However the repetition of this not exceeded a lot because it allows people to think they can adjust the mind-set of the company and ride as a free client, each and every time not only that but things would become obsolete at a rapid rate. That is why big businesses make the hard and tough choices and for that exact reason it remains and rises in its ranks.
Like i said to zero, please do simple google search, which you have apparently forgotten to comment on?
Being ruthless gets you to the top fast, but can bring you down hard. And you fail to see that already happening with this game. Our paying players got tired of hacks and quit. Now we are left with a game 70% full of arabs.
Do you deny that? Cause the evidence is right in-front of you and right at your finger tips.ELmalky7mar wrote: »
The restaurant is a staple where SmileGate is a staple gun with staples ready to fire. Big difference.
I used the restaurant as a metaphor. No crap Smilegate west is completely different than a restaurant. Literally even an egy could figure that out. I used it as a really broad example. Restraunts and CF both provide a service, and both would be nothing without their customers, and same could be said with many other examples. Those were the only things i was comparing, and you cannot deny that that both do those things. Im sorry if i couldn't think of an example that was good enough for you, your highnessELmalky7mar wrote: »
[I'm not going to argue with a guy who fails to agree on other peoples opinions and perspective but you are not seeing this from their perspective; which is what matters more.
For arguments sake; it does not matter what gun you use, a gun is just a tool, the skill is behind the player who uses it. With that being said it really does not matter what "superior" equipment he / she is using because he / she could be easily beaten with the default m16 or even the standard m4a1.]
What...?, but u don't think its easier with a different/ better gun? "doesn't matter what gun you use" You're joking right? Cause i can assure you using a vip is 1000% easier than using a uzi. Duh?
Your not going to argue with me cause i fail to see opinions? Then stop posting please.
And you think apparently everyone on this game doesn't want more gp items (while the majority obviously does) and im not even talking only about guns here. Im talking about clothing, events, and cosmetics too, which you did say you were appreciative about. oh but you don't want more apparel for the shop ? Please pull an argument out of your arse to -1 that too.
Again please think before you post? -
Think of what I'll say what you want; I'm a free player for the past 5 years now.
More GP content is nice and all, but a non-paying player will never own all of it, and thus it isn't a must -- I own 7 GP crate and 3 GP iteam shop weapons that I'm fully satisfied with. You could say that "it gives more choice for the player", yes, but that's all about that. And if GP is ever an issue there's FP mall that is actually very generous.
Oh, and don't criticise events, they are better than they were before, and that shortens the gap between paying and free player, if free player gets lucky, even if that angers the paying player, but BM is a gamble after all.
Move some unpopular ZP create weapons over to GP section, even make them absurdly priced?, I do agree and support, but it will likely never happen and I wouldn't lose sleep over that.
What Z8 games really needs to do is to focus on the paying players and offer them more value for the buck. And over the past years that dissapeared. Whereas then, you could've exchanged your earned coupons for better, and half of them permanent, iteams than what temporary ones we do have today -- I still own permanent axe from these days. And then we had BP mall, and you could've exchanged you bonus points from ZP purchases for other temporary and permanent stuff.
What I'm getting at with the last paragraph above is that Z8 used to be more generous to the paying players' invested dollar than they are now. Yes, we do get discounts, new release BM weapon bonuses (buy X, get extra) and VIP released deals, but that's not the solution to justify what they removed, in my honest opinion.
Again, I'm a free player and that's what I think.
I do respect your opinion.
However here is my counter argument to try and change your mind
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First off, i never criticized their events, I actually really like them. Like i stated in my thread.
Second, you wouldn't enjoy a m4a1- silenced in GP black market? Cause nobody says you have to buy every single gp item. Cause i certainly do not have every single one. Your gonna buy the ones that you want, and the ones that are good. Not a Pindad which is a reskin of the m4a1 but louder.Didn't they release a new GP gun like last patch? Lol
Its trash though. :rolleyes:They don't give a ****.
Well lets make them try. -
please do simple google search, which you have apparently forgotten to comment on?
What...?, but u don't think its easier with a different/ better gun? "doesn't matter what gun you use" You're joking right? Cause i can assure you using a vip is 1000% easier than using a uzi. Duh?
Theoretically speaking; yes. However in my example I referred to the basic and standard guns in comparison to what you define as over powered. Just because someone automatically has a VIP weapon it does not make them good, any above average player could win based on game sense.
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