The Problems.
Well, Block the IP address of the banned Hackers then, shouldn't be allowed to create another one(Account), on their devices or computers. To reduce the hackers. But think twice removing the servers that Middle eastern players use. Remember, Like me, We work here at middle east, but I'm from Philippines originally. There's so many of us playing cf here in middle east 
, Think about it first. Egypt players are legit, but most of them are hackers. Hmmm.. can't you take down the site that produce these hacks. Because my friend told me there's only one site that distributes hacks for CF(He's Egyptian, No offence). Not just in NA its worldwide ! Whoah ! If I'm a professional hacker.. I'll take down that site. I Hope You do something, I know you're trying. But try harder, the game is dying.
, Think about it first. Egypt players are legit, but most of them are hackers. Hmmm.. can't you take down the site that produce these hacks. Because my friend told me there's only one site that distributes hacks for CF(He's Egyptian, No offence). Not just in NA its worldwide ! Whoah ! If I'm a professional hacker.. I'll take down that site. I Hope You do something, I know you're trying. But try harder, the game is dying. Comments
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[GM]Chaosta wrote: »No, we can't take the sites that distribute hacks down. That is impossible.
"Block the IP address of the banned Hackers then" We do.
you block spezific ip´s of hackers?
when?
i know you can check the ip of banned accounts.
why not ban the ip than? -
Victor1502 wrote: »play only UK 4...there are no hackers in UK 4
problems solved
No. Hackers are in every single server.[GM]Chaosta wrote: »No, we can't take the sites that distribute hacks down. That is impossible.
"Block the IP address of the banned Hackers then" We do.
Who said anything about removing servers?
Since when does z8 block IPs for hacking reasons?fail_a_lot wrote: »you block spezific ip´s of hackers?
when?
i know you can check the ip of banned accounts.
why not ban the ip than?
I think they're giving them a chance, hue.CactusHors55 wrote: »look at CF brazil, they saw the cancer ( Egyptian ) coming in their version, they blocked their IP immediately, thats a good CF
I think they did it because its called cfBR. But if so, this is NA/UK not ME.
We never get a GM response that makes sense tbh. They quote a person, then add a short vague answer and go offline.
Wut -
The reason is licensing.
Brazilians used to play on this version. Then the license was purchased for that region for a specific CF version.
Apply that to this situation.
Egyptians play on this version. The license is held by no one for that region, therefore there is no specific version for that area. -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »The reason is licensing.
Brazilians used to play on this version. Then the license was purchased for that region for a specific CF version.
Apply that to this situation.
Egyptians play on this version. The license is held by no one for that region, therefore there is no specific version for that area.
Okay. Then what makes sure that we're enjoying the game with no laggers? Isn't this the purpose of the game? To enjoy? If the license won't stop the flow of UK players to the NA servers, then why not use an alternative? Place a ping restriction. I don't see how would this be hard or useless since there are a lot of functions that are not used at all in the game just like the sorting issue (mentioned by a GM). -
I think they did it because its called cfBR. But if so, this is NA/UK not ME.
We never get a GM response that makes sense tbh. They quote a person, then add a short vague answer and go offline.
Wut
The answer what Cactus was asking. CFBR already had it in their agreement to restrict access from the Middle East. An error occur in which ME players were able to join their servers. It was quickly fixed.
This has nothing to do with the GM's listening. Its all in the license. -
Okay. Then what makes sure that we're enjoying the game with no laggers? Isn't this the purpose of the game? To enjoy? If the license won't stop the flow of UK players to the NA servers, then why not use an alternative? Place a ping restriction. I don't see how would this be hard or useless since there are a lot of functions that are not used at all in the game just like the sorting issue (mentioned by a GM).
Sorry, but that wouldn't be up to the GMs.The answer what Cactus was asking. CFBR already had it in their agreement to restrict access from the Middle East. An error occur in which ME players were able to join their servers. It was quickly fixed.
This has nothing to do with the GM's listening. Its all in the license.
Pretty much this. -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »Sorry, but that wouldn't be up to the GMs.
Well yeah I know that.
But can't the GM's 'push for something'?
Just like when the m4 vip was released, a GM responded to me saying 'there was a high demand for the M4A1 OB' and thats the reason it was released.
The ping restrictions have been suggested a lot and aside from being something we want it is something we NEED. So why not push for it? It'll benefit all of us. All. Of. Us.
If you can't, that means that a GM lied and said suggestions of the community are looked at and if there is a high number of +'s they're implemented? -
Well yeah I know that.
But can't the GM's 'push for something'?
Just like when the m4 vip was released, a GM responded to me saying 'there was a high demand for the M4A1 OB' and thats the reason it was released.
The ping restrictions have been suggested a lot and aside from being something we want it is something we NEED. So why not push for it? It'll benefit all of us. All. Of. Us.
If you can't, that means that a GM lied and said suggestions of the community are looked at and if there is a high number of +'s they're implemented?
How do you know we haven't pushed for some sort of resolution? -
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[GM]Chaosta wrote: »How do you know we haven't pushed for some sort of resolution?
I don't. But knowing that the GM's would have barely any problems playing the game tells me that. You can insta-ban anyone or kick anyone from the room.
But, did you or did anyone on the team suggest that? I mean if you can influence adding a VIP I think you can influence a feature
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[GM]Chaosta wrote: »Having no resolution does not prove that we haven't pushed for something.
I want to ask a questions
The manger of SGW or the one that you pushed for something » Does he/She/they play cf ?
Does he/she/they see how many players leave NA verison because hackers isuss!
Does he/she/they take a look about the server! (emptys) ? -
I don't. But knowing that the GM's would have barely any problems playing the game tells me that. You can insta-ban anyone or kick anyone from the room.
But, did you or did anyone on the team suggest that? I mean if you can influence adding a VIP I think you can influence a feature
I wouldn't be so quick to say that.
Also we can't insta-ban. Banning is actually a bit of a long process.
Almost 100% of the time, we don't have the power and leverage that you guys think we do.
Also, most of us GMs don't talk to the Devs. The head honcho does. -
Also , why do we have 5 servers in NA and 5 in UK !!
And we can move these 5 to diffrent areas! That it would attract many players
i dont say a server for every country ...
For EX: 1 in mid east
1 in australia
1 in polanda
1 in russia
1 in china
1 in jordan
1 in netherlands
etc
... Tell me what do you think?"
100% successful idea -
124ahmed124 wrote: »Also , why do we have 5 servers in NA and 5 in UK !!
And we can move these 5 to diffrent areas! That it would attract many players
i dont say a server for every country ...
For EX: 1 in mid east
1 in australia
1 in polanda
1 in russia
1 in china
1 in jordan
1 in netherlands
etc
... Tell me what do you think?"
100% successful idea
You think moving a server is as easy as mailing a letter? -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »I wouldn't be so quick to say that.
Also we can't insta-ban. Banning is actually a bit of a long process.
Almost 100% of the time, we don't have the power and leverage that you guys think we do.
Also, most of us GMs don't talk to the Devs. The head honcho does.
I figured. No offense, but this company is weird.
I believe you when you say you don't have your powers at all the time and that we have a totally different idea of the GM's but why is that? Because we don't know you guys. Q&A's that we have on stream are fun but no one asks good questions.
I'm getting off topic here, sorry. Thanks for the fun conversation. Enjoyed some truth. -
Removing a certain region isn't really needed , I miss the brs tbh. Sure they'd insult you kick you and cheat . That is nothing compared to the level Mena runs at. When xtrap has caught up and the game is clean playing with them is often fun and comical . Watching them shooting at walls only to realize it isn't working , or after you kill them and the body keeps moving . Most of them are terribad and asides the insulting , begging , cheating , random kicking they really are not that bad. Heck even take away the cheating and i can deal with the rest .
Side question, why do Mena players love to kick ? Seriously they join a room and first order of business is to kick who ever is first on their team.
We often suggest in game moderation , it gets turned down because only a sgw employee could have that sort of power . Can't you hire a few as coffee gophers and claim they serve food so you can pay them under minimum. Or even as contract work and just make up what ever you want . They really don't need to be able to ban people . Simply kick them from a room , or better yet from the server for 30 minutes . Enough to frustrate the cheaters to going elsewhere . -
of curse Z8 can push for some thing
for remove the "search room button" ^^ ^^ ^^
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=296854
it's kind sad that always when players complain about some thing so the MOD's and GM's replay "it's up to devs/ask devs/if you could convice the devs"
all the impact Z8 have on their own game is to change the "search room button"?o.O
like seriously who are the managers of this game?Z8games or the smilegate
yea I know that SG are the real managers...but it can't be that Z8 are totally powerless about their own game:( -
I figured. No offense, but this company is weird.
I believe you when you say you don't have your powers at all the time and that we have a totally different idea of the GM's but why is that? Because we don't know you guys. Q&A's that we have on stream are fun but no one asks good questions.
I'm getting off topic here, sorry. Thanks for the fun conversation. Enjoyed some truth.
Eh, not weird so much as... I can't even think of a word. It's kind of like being a babysitter? Parents = Smilegate Child=Game SGW=Babysitter.
It's essentially because Smilegate West is a game publisher. We handle things, but do what the Devs (Smilegate) want, because it's their game. Which is fair. Kind of like the babysitter holds down the fort. They can't really do things without the go-ahead.
We both want the game to thrive. We have the same interests in the well-being of the game. However, there are conversations back and forth between the two, constantly.
Kind of an simplified analogy but... best I could come up with right now. -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »Eh, not weird so much as... I can't even think of a word. It's kind of like being a babysitter? Parents = Smilegate Child=Game SGW=Babysitter.
It's essentially because Smilegate West is a game publisher. We handle things, but do what the Devs (Smilegate) want, because it's their game. Which is fair. Kind of like the babysitter holds down the fort. They can't really do things without the go-ahead.
We both want the game to thrive. We have the same interests in the well-being of the game. However, there are conversations back and forth between the two, constantly.
Kind of an simplified analogy but... best I could come up with right now.
I like this example .. baby sitter xD xD
why do not you answer me ? -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »Eh, not weird so much as... I can't even think of a word. It's kind of like being a babysitter? Parents = Smilegate Child=Game SGW=Babysitter.
It's essentially because Smilegate West is a game publisher. We handle things, but do what the Devs (Smilegate) want, because it's their game. Which is fair. Kind of like the babysitter holds down the fort. They can't really do things without the go-ahead.
We both want the game to thrive. We have the same interests in the well-being of the game. However, there are conversations back and forth between the two, constantly.
Kind of an simplified analogy but... best I could come up with right now.
I love this ^^
Makes a lot more sense when you put it this way but again, people need to know these stuff so they have a back-up when they're posting.
Keep the conversation between the two going and hopefully we get something out of it
I appreciate the explanation
124ahmed124 wrote: »I like this example .. baby sitter xD xD
why do not you answer me ?
Please make a good point so he won't waste his time -
[GM]Chaosta wrote: »Eh, not weird so much as... I can't even think of a word. It's kind of like being a babysitter? Parents = Smilegate Child=Game SGW=Babysitter.
It's essentially because Smilegate West is a game publisher. We handle things, but do what the Devs (Smilegate) want, because it's their game. Which is fair. Kind of like the babysitter holds down the fort. They can't really do things without the go-ahead.
We both want the game to thrive. We have the same interests in the well-being of the game. However, there are conversations back and forth between the two, constantly.
Kind of an simplified analogy but... best I could come up with right now.
That reminds me of something that actually unfolded on the weekend . The baby sitter told the parents about the problems with their daughter they don't want to hear.
Here and there my wife would baby sit for another lady at church , we were fairly sure some thing was wrong with their baby. After a few months of looking after her she really is not developing at the rate she should .Another lady at church who works in child development has an autistic 14 year old . We had talked to her and she had already suspected their baby was autistic for some time .
At what point does the baby sitter tell the parents what they are blind to ? -
GM chaosta igrone me and my questions 2 or 3 times in this thread!I love this ^^
Makes a lot more sense when you put it this way but again, people need to know these stuff so they have a back-up when they're posting.
Keep the conversation between the two going and hopefully we get something out of it
I appreciate the explanation
Please make a good point so he won't waste his time
All my post are important..
Why did i born in egypt
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Victor1502 wrote: »play only UK 4...there are no hackers in UK 4
problems solved
o.O
have you ever played on UK4 ? it's worst than UK1
In UK there are high rankers with VIP who hak....i got many replays of them with aimbots....and i'm not that kind who call everyone hacker just cause he is better than me....i talk about real hacks.... -
I love this ^^
Makes a lot more sense when you put it this way but again, people need to know these stuff so they have a back-up when they're posting.
Keep the conversation between the two going and hopefully we get something out of it
I appreciate the explanation
Not a problem. Again, probably not the best analogy in the world, but I'm glad it helped Oh, communication is constantly ongoing between the two. It's a matter of finding compromise, I guess, which we all know isn't as easy as it seems.That reminds me of something that actually unfolded on the weekend . The baby sitter told the parents about the problems with their daughter they don't want to hear.
Here and there my wife would baby sit for another lady at church , we were fairly sure some thing was wrong with their baby. After a few months of looking after her she really is not developing at the rate she should .Another lady at church who works in child development has an autistic 14 year old . We had talked to her and she had already suspected their baby was autistic for some time .
At what point does the baby sitter tell the parents what they are blind to ?
In this case, I wouldn't say blindness is a problem. Think of how many versions of CrossFire there are. They all do things a little differently, but they are successful in their own ways, and the ways they have are proven to work for that version. Unfortunately it doesn't mean there is one particular plan that would work for every version.124ahmed124 wrote: »GM chaosta igrone me and my questions 2 or 3 times in this thread!
All my post are important..
Why did i born in egypt !!
Sorry man. I just thought the conversation that was already ongoing might answer a few of the questions you had.
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