Hacking thread merger

no not champions, kings or better in arabic sheyk. if u got money the world is yours.

'Starburst wrote:

;4066532']You're right! Hackers are Champions.

THEY ARE LEGENDS!!

Acually they people who sit behind a computer trying to download hack for 50 hours and creating new acc

SHUT UP YOU RACIST MOTHER HMAR. Just because Egypt has most players in game does not mean they hack!! Egyptians are most of the professional players in the game you mother stupid!!

Which cheaters are you seeing? I am not seeing any cheats at all. Are you sure you are not mistaken them for professional players? In Egypt every house has a set of turtle beaches and we all listen carefully to the game...


ALL HAK MAKRE uSA CHINA not EGYPT, HOW WE HAKR STUPID?? OR NO??

EGYPT only listen carefull to game take ur hackusation elsewhere because we are pros .. ok?

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

SHUT UP YOU RACIST MOTHER HMAR. Just because Egypt has most players in game does not mean they hack!! Egyptians are most of the professional players in the game you mother stupid!!

Which cheaters are you seeing? I am not seeing any cheats at all. Are you sure you are not mistaken them for professional players? In Egypt every house has a set of turtle beaches and we all listen carefully to the game...


ALL HAK MAKRE uSA CHINA not EGYPT, HOW WE HAKR STUPID?? OR NO??

EGYPT only listen carefull to game take ur hackusation elsewhere because we are pros .. ok?

For one, a statement like "a lot of people from this region hack" is not a racial statement. It's a statistic. Saying things like "America has a high number of overweight and obese people" is a statement that is the same in that it's about a group of people, and lists something that is factual about that.

For two, I never said Egypt. You are the one starting this here, playing some imaginary race card that, as I already pointed out, isn't even a legitimate argument. I said the Middle East (ME) region in general. You can tell this because of three factors:

1. Names- Mido, Mohamed, and Ahmed are three of the most common hacker names in the game. All have Middle Eastern origins, and Mido is specific to Egypt itself.

2. Ping- A higher ping typically means a person is far away. There is some variability based on connection speed with this as well. Typically 190-210 ping would mean a Middle Eastern player. Combine this with the name, and you have a pretty good guess of a person's region of origin.

3. In game chat- Many people from the Middle East region, usually scream "kosmack", "a7a", "allah yok", and speak in a very broken English. Again, this factor can be combined with the two above it.

I personally do not give a flying crap where you are from, what color you skin is, or what language you speak (as long as you're not trying to have a conversation with me in a language I don't know, cuz that'd be kinda hard). The only thing that I am pointing out, and it's a trend many other players have pointed out, something that is literally common knowledge in this game, is that people from the ME region have a much higher tendency to hack then people who are not.

Also, if a player is running around with a knife, that swings at roughly five times it's normal speed, scoring headshots at twice the normal distance while they move across a map in about two seconds, that person is rather obviously hacking. You cannot claim a person doing that is pro, and that is the most common sets of hacks I see in a knife match.

I fully understand their are legit players from the ME region. I did not make some blanket statement that everyone from there hacks. If you are not a hacker, you have no reason to be offended by this statement. The point of this thread is not to start arguments. It is to try to get some forum Mods attention on this subject, to see if they can try to discuss it with GM's. A GM is much more likely to listen to them than to regular players like us on forums, so I figured this was at least worth a shot.

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

SHUT UP YOU RACIST MOTHER HMAR. Just because Egypt has most players in game does not mean they hack!! Egyptians are most of the professional players in the game you mother stupid!!

Which cheaters are you seeing? I am not seeing any cheats at all. Are you sure you are not mistaken them for professional players? In Egypt every house has a set of turtle beaches and we all listen carefully to the game...


ALL HAK MAKRE uSA CHINA not EGYPT, HOW WE HAKR STUPID?? OR NO??

EGYPT only listen carefull to game take ur hackusation elsewhere because we are pros .. ok?

This really made me lol.
Are you so blind you that you can't tell a hacker and associate with an Egyptian name, or are you just illiterate. Also that last sentence...I don't know what to make of it. Help me out?

[MOD]Iceman wrote: »

Trust us when we say you have our attention. The GM's know all about it. They are working on it and that's all I will say about it for now.

Sorry for the double post but if you actually take some if the measures this thread suggests, I would enjoy the game so much more. Hopefully they ban all different regions besides NA.

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

SHUT UP YOU RACIST MOTHER HMAR. Just because Egypt has most players in game does not mean they hack!! Egyptians are most of the professional players in the game you mother stupid!!

Which cheaters are you seeing? I am not seeing any cheats at all. Are you sure you are not mistaken them for professional players? In Egypt every house has a set of turtle beaches and we all listen carefully to the game...


ALL HAK MAKRE uSA CHINA not EGYPT, HOW WE HAKR STUPID?? OR NO??

EGYPT only listen carefull to game take ur hackusation elsewhere because we are pros .. ok?

Better be quiet boy... this not egypt...here we have rules.
Yes 90% of hackers are from egypt, maybe i could say about 1% of them are legit even so, with your lag its very hard you guys not to damage the game.
Nice try to use the racism card, you know what? if you think other players are racist, just leave, your country is very good at solving problems, and very understanding to each other
Say what?flying what? dude your amusing, instead you play this game, go learn english, in case you did not understand, nobody here likes your hacking too.
Your the racist here, insult america more
Want respect? earn it!

haramuda wrote: »

not only your opinion...

+1 here too.

cvh16 wrote: »

Better be quiet boy... this not egypt...here we have rules.
Yes 90% of hackers are from egypt, maybe i could say about 1% of them are legit even so, with your lag its very hard you guys not to damage the game.
Nice try to use the racism card, you know what? if you think other players are racist, just leave, your country is very good at solving problems, and very understanding to each other
Say what?flying what? dude your amusing, instead you play this game, go learn english, in case you did not understand, nobody here likes your hacking too.
Your the racist here, insult america more
Want respect? earn it!

This is not the mental house also, so please try to think before you type.

Please show me where you have got these statistics from? I want to know HOW you know that 90% of the cheaters come from Egypt? I live in Egypt and I have never seen a single cheater, I have also visited multiple internet Cafés. Your numbers are complete camel crap, I can easily say the same thing about Americans, and say 99% of Americans cheat, but I don't need to. It's already been proven by Game Managers themselves that the higher population of cheats actually comes from the United States, so how about that, huh?

My points still stand a strong argument, and you know that is true. Here is a re-cap:

1.) Anyone can name their selves to a middle eastern name, does this mean they are in fact from the MENA region? Lets turn this around a little. If Ahmed in Egypt decided to name himself Thomas-Kennedy does this automatically make someone American? So my question to you is HOW can you tell that they are actually Egyptian?

2.) Judging by the way you think you will automatically resort to saying "its their latency -- DUH!". Well anyone can lag their-selves brother, wake up. Americans are much "smarter" than your foreign cheaters and are more aware of the outcomes of cheating thus using VPN programs that change their IP and cause them status lag in game. This does not make them Egyptian does it?

3.)

[GM]Saidin wrote: »

Until then though, the MENA region has access to all versions of CF. We're one of the most popular and most marketed versions so we deal with that.

There is no doubt that the population of players from MENA has increased, however it is still not the majority. One thing that should also note, since we do have numbers here, is that the breakdown of autobans due to hacking and geolocation is still proportional.

In that way there are still hackers coming from the USA.

It should also be noted that the known hack sites (we all know which one we're talking about) is a site run in English, for English gamers

Sit back down you hypocrites. Americans and Germans hack just as much as any other country. You only think "Egyptians" cheat because someone names their self ahmed and lags in game, what kind of thinking is THIS? Are you that stupid? Just because some black people steal does this mean all black people steal? If someone spoke like a black person and was covered out in a mask and you couldn't fully see the colour of their skin you would automatically assume this person was black?

Egyptians are legit and kind people, leave them alone.

Innocent until proven guilty.

'Starburst wrote:

;4066532']You're right! Hackers aren't Champions.

THEY ARE LEGENDS!!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The problem is they are not realizing that it is not beneficial on the long run. Sadly, xTrap is probably under a contract with Smilegate (in Korea) which renders Z8 staff helpless when it comes to changing the gameguard itself.

However, if you have played the game for long enough you would know that there once was a serious hacking situation previously and it was treated by Z8 with a mysterious yet amazing thing called "Coat Ban", where every player who used a hack within a specific period of time has been accounted for and banned.

Now the only reason they are not doing this again is unknown, I have theories but I don't want to say them. You just have to let your imagination do the work.

Thanks for the reply Iceman. I had hopes that the Mods ha done something like what I was suggesting already, but decided to make the thread to voice my concerns. Your forum avatar will also likely give me nightmares.

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

This is not the mental house also, so please try to think before you type.

Please show me where you have got these statistics from? I want to know HOW you know that 90% of the cheaters come from Egypt? I live in Egypt and I have never seen a single cheater, I have also visited multiple internet Cafés. Your numbers are complete camel crap, I can easily say the same thing about Americans, and say 99% of Americans cheat, but I don't need to. It's already been proven by Game Managers themselves that the higher population of cheats actually comes from the United States, so how about that, huh?

My points still stand a strong argument, and you know that is true. Here is a re-cap:

1.) Anyone can name their selves to a middle eastern name, does this mean they are in fact from the MENA region? Lets turn this around a little. If Ahmed in Egypt decided to name himself Thomas-Kennedy does this automatically make someone American? So my question to you is HOW can you tell that they are actually Egyptian?

2.) Judging by the way you think you will automatically resort to saying "its their latency -- DUH!". Well anyone can lag their-selves brother, wake up. Americans are much "smarter" than your foreign cheaters and are more aware of the outcomes of cheating thus using VPN programs that change their IP and cause them status lag in game. This does not make them Egyptian does it?

3.)


Sit back down you hypocrites. Americans and Germans hack just as much as any other country. You only think "Egyptians" cheat because someone names their self ahmed and lags in game, what kind of thinking is THIS? Are you that stupid? Just because some black people steal does this mean all black people steal? If someone spoke like a black person and was covered out in a mask and you couldn't fully see the colour of their skin you would automatically assume this person was black?

Egyptians are legit and kind people, leave them alone.

Innocent until proven guilty.

I very much highly doubt that a horde of NA/UK players are giving themselves lag, ME themed names, and screaming Arabic phrases in order to pose as ME cheaters. It seems like you are under the opinion that the belief ME players have a large number of hackers is some sort of conspiracy by non-ME players to make them look bad. I highly doubt the majority of hackers would waste the effort to do that. Their main goal is to have fun by ruining another person's good time, or make up for their own short comings as a player by cheating, in my opinion.

Also, we had a similar problem years back with Brazilian hackers. Once CF LA opened up, BE hackers are virtually non-existent in this version. Are you saying that all Those cheaters were just NA/UK players posing as well?

If you say "innocent until proven guilty", against our accusations, then how can you make your own without even a logical basis for the argument? Your original stance was "all Egyptians are pro", which is ironically a statement I hear from hacking ME players in-game quite often as well. That is just another common thread that connects you as well. If you want physical evidence, only the people who run the game can give you that, obviously. But if you watch hackers play, you'll notice a lot of the common threads, honestly.

Most stereotypical ME named hackers with high ping, will run at you in a straight line just slashing in a melee match. If you can get someone to attempt to kick them, many have a macro with very poor grammar and either all caps or no caps, and it is very rare to get a high ping player kicked in a room with high ping players. Combine that with the very commonly used Arabic phrases, and you set a very obvious pattern for behavior. I personally highly doubt there is a hacker community dedicated to replicating this behavior, but it isn't unlikely that a large number of people from a certain region, who have a lot of friends to learn it from, act in a similar fashion. That may sound like a stretch to some, but it's a fairly logical line of thought.

Also, the only law on the internet is that the person with the ban hammer makes the rules. The people who made this game aren't shackled with a burden of proof. If they wanted any player gone, they would be gone. And, I'm done for now.

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

re read saidins post.. Egyptians are not the main cheaters here. You Americans are hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stob cry now babye we egebt is jost pro playing with good headphone..

U don't need headphones to shoot thought wall and run faster than usain bolt

Ouros_dono wrote: »

Well, he said the numbers were proportional. Given I don't know the date of that post, I don.t know how current the information is, and therefore it is possible that there are more hackers from your region now than before. I also can say for sure I see far more players with at least 180 ping than players below that mark.

You can stop trolling now, by the way.

GG brah THE CHAMP IS HERE

warhawkEGEBT wrote: »

This is not the mental house also, so please try to think before you type.

Please show me where you have got these statistics from? I want to know HOW you know that 90% of the cheaters come from Egypt? I live in Egypt and I have never seen a single cheater, I have also visited multiple internet Cafés. Your numbers are complete camel crap, I can easily say the same thing about Americans, and say 99% of Americans cheat, but I don't need to. It's already been proven by Game Managers themselves that the higher population of cheats actually comes from the United States, so how about that, huh?

My points still stand a strong argument, and you know that is true. Here is a re-cap:

1.) Anyone can name their selves to a middle eastern name, does this mean they are in fact from the MENA region? Lets turn this around a little. If Ahmed in Egypt decided to name himself Thomas-Kennedy does this automatically make someone American? So my question to you is HOW can you tell that they are actually Egyptian?

2.) Judging by the way you think you will automatically resort to saying "its their latency -- DUH!". Well anyone can lag their-selves brother, wake up. Americans are much "smarter" than your foreign cheaters and are more aware of the outcomes of cheating thus using VPN programs that change their IP and cause them status lag in game. This does not make them Egyptian does it?

3.)


Sit back down you hypocrites. Americans and Germans hack just as much as any other country. You only think "Egyptians" cheat because someone names their self ahmed and lags in game, what kind of thinking is THIS? Are you that stupid? Just because some black people steal does this mean all black people steal? If someone spoke like a black person and was covered out in a mask and you couldn't fully see the colour of their skin you would automatically assume this person was black?

Egyptians are legit and kind people, leave them alone.

Innocent until proven guilty.

but you really think that players from other countries would name themselves some sh!t names like, ahmed, mido, Mohamed?