When will be the next patch? Saidin.

D3N1ZP4C wrote: »

I think you speak of just such allegations as "so many have cost" if they do not know how much it cost exactly why are you here talking about such a topic? this is exactly like the anti-hack system what you are telling us years here and I still see her every day and are 3 years

But you are the one making an argument that G4Box has "tons of money". My counter-argument is that there is cost. And I will also state that it may be misleading that people assume that the revenue is as high as they think.

I will refrain from posting any further as it seems to me that it is a 1 on 1 conversation. If you wish to continue this with me I'll be more than happy to take this up via VM (Visitor Message).

"@" threads aren't allowed, should have been closed if proper moderation was present.

Funny how a bunch of kids post about stuff they don't understand...

one_9 wrote: »

Meh it's their opinion on the matter...

Opinion based on false fact and speculation...

I am so disagreeing what you are telling about the kick vote system! If you are a good player, some people think you are a hacker! It sucks if you always get kicked then! (I have some days where I get kicked 60% of all Search and Destroy games I am playing in, i don't wanna get kicked in 80% . Normally, hacker are getting kicked, unless the room is not f***** up already.. Just get your clan mates and friends and there will be more good players who could klick f11 if there is a hacker spotted

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

Even most of the xtrap patch had not been efficient for 1 days, as Saidin mentioned that the x-trap shows how z8 cares about the hack situation, please tell us when is your next caring about the hacking situation?

As already mentioned in many other hacking threads and official announcements by [GM]Saidin himself, X-Trap updates everyday, sometimes even multiple times a day. They do not patch every hack with each update nor do they catch/ban all hackers with each day/update. It takes some time to reduce the hacker amount to a bearable amount once again, as it was always the case, just be a bit patient, as we all are. We should have some faith.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

Also the vote system need to be changed. When there is only 1 hacker in a room, we have difficulty to vote kick him, now there are normally 3 hackers in a room. Limited vote can not handle such a large number.

It is correct that it is hard to kick three cheaters out of a room, and even if someone accomplished that, it is very likely that other hackers join. It is hard, because you are limited to vote kicks - you only have 1-2 throughout the whole game. While looking at it in this perspective, we usually see that the system is not efficient and needs to be changed - but then again it is the community's fault. Let's say we change the system in something which gives people multiple kick votes - do you really believe they will kick hackers or vote F11 against a hacker even if you vote him ten times? I doubt that. They will still try to kick legit players, because they are jealous about their skills. (This is my opinion.)

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

Even though z8 would not sell any hak code, but the soft rule for hacker kicking leads to today's situation.

They do not sell any hack / hack codes, this would be nonsense. They fight against hackers and try to achieve to become rid of hackers, yet sell illegal programs? No.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

1. x-trap, updated once per 7 days (my best estimate), would normally be bypassed in 7 hours. Should you suggest player to play this game inside 7 hours after the patch?

As already stated above, this information is false. X-Trap updates moreoften, even though you don't see it patching. If you would be able to see it being patched, then hackers would see that it is getting patched and close the hack - so they aren't that obvious.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

2. banning, we know your stuff are busy with that. But no one knows how many, in fact, no one cares how many now, because if it works, we should not see so many hackers in the game.

They have their support staff which in fact, bans hackers by looking through the reports people are uploading. Additional to that they have an in-game patrol which lurks around the game servers and bans hackers - I have to admit, we don't see this on a daily-basis. Perhaps they have to hire more staff for that, but in the end, we don't know about any information (=how many hackers they ban, how efficient it really is, etc.)

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

3. voting, the beautiful limited vote, no kick for opposite team, and 9:6 vote failure, would make the hacker very happy. AND we can not even kick them if they leave fast.

I'm not entirely sure how the kick voting works. (3/2 is kicked, yet 6/4 isn't, I believe.) I can understand that is makes no sense at first - but I'm sure the system is optimized at its best form, otherwise we wouldn't have this in the game and we would have seen a change a long time ago.

Furthermore, yes. If a hacker sees he gets voted and leaves and comes back once the vote is over, he is still able to play, which is not nice, but I don't see how this shall be fixed atm since I'm not a developer of this game.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

The hacker are so overwhelming, when they can easily enter a room and ruin it without any instantly way to prevent them, they would be happy to do that again and again.

I know. We all know. We have to be patient my dear.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

Please trust the community, even just a little part of them, and make host kicking possible. Otherwise, I would think z8's strategy is to make the community get familiar with the hacker spoiled games and continue to be the victim.

Trusting the community is something a company can't allow in general. (in terms of serious issues like the kick voting, for example having an in-game patrol from the community who bans hackers.) Host kicking is possible when the game is about to start / finished, yet I see that it might be a good thing if the host is actually able to kick people out of the room, but yet again,

1.) they have to be trustful members
2.) it can be easily abused, but hey, anything can be abused in a way.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

Additional, host kicking rule:
1. remove vote kick.
2. host can kick any one in his room with reasons: hacker, racism, rude, ...., during the game.
3. if the same host are still hosting the same room, the player kicked for hack could not enter the room.
4. host kick can happen during game, and after each round

Removing the vote kick won't happen. I gave my opinion to the host kick room thing above.
Thanks for you ideas though, it might be vital in the future for the staff.

BlackSmithSY wrote: »

This is stage 1, at this point, several experienced host might create heavens for legit players. There should be less complain for z8, because it is just which room a player choose.

Next stage, make reinforce the rule for host kicking. And accumulating host kicking, correctness count. Players can choose a room based on host scores.

Then, always make the best performance player [evaluate by the kicking count and correctness] to be the host.

Well, yeah. I see your points man, but it is very difficult for a company to change a system which runs alright, and trust the community at the same time. Either the situation becomes better, or becomes really awful. In case it becomes awful, it isn't that easy for a company to compensate the damage which has been dealt to the players being kicked out of the room for no reason by community hosts which are able to kick players.

That's my opinion and I'm sure that I explained quite a few things thoroughly. If you still have any questions, private message me, I will close this thread now.