Does anyone play Poker?
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I am more successful in poker today than I was 6 years ago.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Obviously those are rational decisions but the whole game is still based on probability. You can do some math in your head to see your probability of winning but unless there is several people there is going to be a huge probability for loss.
There is no "experience" or "skill" in this game. Its all luck and calculated guessing.
Look up definition of experience for more information.
Yet you propose that my experience and skill is non-existent.
Did I just get luckier during these six years?
Probability and luck doesn't exactly go hand in hand.
They strike me as opposites in fact, yet this game is about luck and calculating probabilities?
Confusing. Must be an advanced game.
Its either a game of probability and deductions, which makes it a game of skill and experience.
Or its a game of luck, and nobody is ever more successful than anyone else in the game since everyone is playing at equal terms.
Personally, and I can only speak for myself, I'm not a millionaire from poker. Other people are. If it were just luck, I would be too.
Even a simple mind can deduce that the second alternative is false. -
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Although luck has nothing to do with it, since the cards I receive are irrelevant to the outcome of the game if my experience and skill in the game is sufficient.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Probability is all based on luck.
I would attribute your successes to be based on better readings of others, better understanding of the game, and luck.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Please...
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Although luck has nothing to do with it, since the cards I receive are irrelevant to the outcome of the game if my experience and skill in the game is sufficient.
Dot, please look up experience. They have books on this stuff.
What "Skill" are you training here? Ability to see that you have crap cards and then fold? or have a chance (probability, and therefore based on luck) at winning? Thats a decision based on logic and reasonability.
All of this is luck good sire. And yes the cards are relevent to the outcome of the game... That is the whole point. If your cards can match up with those placed... -
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Naw, just curious if you actually know what you're talking about or if you're just assuming based on faulty perceptions of the game.
A pair of twos can easily beat a pair of threes, as a very simple example.
The person with the twos 'simply' convince the person with threes that he has s omething b etter
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Naw, just curious if you actually know what you're talking about or if you're just assuming based on faulty perceptions of the game.
A pair of twos can easily beat a pair of threes, as a very simple example.
The person with the twos 'simply' convince the person with threes that he has s omething b etter
g2g bbl
I've played the game several hundred times. Lost and gained my fair share of money and I only play with friends or friends of friends.
I'm aware of these situations but once again, based on luck. I would have folded for sure at that level. Too much risk for me. -
How is it based on luck in the proposed scenario, where the cards are irrelevant?RawrJafrikan wrote: »I've played the game several hundred times. Lost and gained my fair share of money and I only play with friends or friends of friends.
I'm aware of these situations but once again, based on luck. I would have folded for sure at that level. Too much risk for me. -
I realize that I don't know anyone here but from reading this thread, RawrJafrikan you are one of the dumbest people out there. Poker is a skill game, you are playing versus other people, not the house. Blackjack, roulette, craps, slots, are all games where you are trying to win money directly from the casino, and the odds will always favour the casino. Is it a coincidence that big tournaments always have familiar faces at the final table?
Sure luck helps and plays a factor but good players can play a style that minimizes the luck factor and when they do get unlucky it doesn't cost them all their money.
If anyone wants to play with me online I am always up for it, although I don't play as often as I used to. I've never played for big stakes, not because I can't but because I chose not to and cashout often.
I've played millions of hands online, and won plenty. Here is a screenshot of my Sit n Go stats only, each game is one tournament. This doesn't count any of the money I have won in Cash games or big tournaments.
http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t59/tmlms13/Other%20stuff/?action=view¤t=NewPicture-2.jpg -
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How is it based on luck in the proposed scenario, where the cards are irrelevant?
How is it not? If its based on high hand, and I see a set of cards that might have someone with a flush I'm not going in. In another case, I see a set of nearly jumbled cards then yes of course I'm going to consider it. I'll look at how people are betting and then make my move. In the end though, its all luck and calculated risk.
I'm taking that risk to win by looking at how my friend or whoever had smirk when he looked at his cards or swiftly looked down and to the left or to the right. Even by considering all of these it still goes down to luck.
Oh, pro tip, if you are with a group of people who don't know you, act like you haven't played the game before and then occassionally be like "Yes" or "awe". Since they think you are a noob, they can't really read you, so you tkae that opportunity to dominate.I realize that I don't know anyone here but from reading this thread, RawrJafrikan you are one of the dumbest people out there. Poker is a skill game, you are playing versus other people, not the house. Blackjack, roulette, craps, slots, are all games where you are trying to win money directly from the casino, and the odds will always favour the casino. Is it a coincidence that big tournaments always have familiar faces at the final table?
Sure luck helps and plays a factor but good players can play a style that minimizes the luck factor and when they do get unlucky it doesn't cost them all their money.
ad hominem fallicy and lack of evidence.
All these games are based on luck and loss. Thats the whole point of gambling. If reading people is a skill, then please by all means, tell me the laws or rules to this "skill". This is like saying that human sciences is a legitimate science. -
i'm sorry this doesn't interest me any more, i don't play poker, never have.
this was fun though.
mind you only people with weak rhetorical skill respond with pointing out rhetoric fallacies rather than responding to the matter at hand
you're the bigger man for debating properly, he'll still be considered lesser by the audience because everyone can see the personal attack without you pointing it out. -
i'm sorry this doesn't interest me any more, i don't play poker, never have.
this was fun though.
Man, what da hell da wrong wid da you?mind you only people with weak rhetorical skill respond with pointing out rhetoric fallacies rather than responding to the matter at hand.
I am aware of this matter.you're the bigger man for debating properly, he'll still be considered lesser by the audience because everyone can see the personal attack without you pointing it out.
Thank you good sire.
Yo BRit.ards GET SOME. Especially you Fapplytron, I should have called you out on Ad Hominem. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »
ad hominem fallicy and lack of evidence.
All these games are based on luck and loss. Thats the whole point of gambling. If reading people is a skill, then please by all means, tell me the laws or rules to this "skill". This is like saying that human sciences is a legitimate science.
Is acting a skill? Is math a skill? Is pattern recognition a skill? If you can do those 3 things at a high level you will be a good poker player.
If I notice that you always bet $10 with a big hand, and bet $20 when you are bluffing, is that luck? Or that if you pupils dilate when you look at your cards you have a big hand? If I make you fold a good hand by 3-betting with nothing is that not skill?
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