M12s - Is It Really a Noob's Gun?
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GoPancakes wrote: »M12s is not overpowered, it is just overly easy to use.
If you had a Gatling Gun pro face off against an M12s pro, the Gatling Gun pro would probably win because it is a better gun, but not as easy to use.
Pancakes please rethink that post.
If both players are pro of equal skill level the M12 will easily beat the Gatling.
Gatling takes 1 fulls second to windup before shooting.
Is the heaviest weapon in the game, so your too slow to take cover.
Slows ones movement even more and stops jumping when shooting or winding up to shoot.
And it actually has recoil after after the 3rd shot.
So...
It takes a extra 1 second to react for the Gatling gun. Giving the M12 plenty of time to kill.
One is slow if using it. So the gat can't avoid being shot at.
One is practically frozen well shooting. Target practice anyone?
And the spray forces one to kill the target in the first 3 shots. Miss and your dead.
I use my Gatling all the time (it a hard weapon to use and I like a challenge), and it is very difficult to maintain a positive KDR in TDM and SND against noobs with it. Facing a pro is a death sentence for a Gat. -
Pancakes please rethink that post.
If both players are pro of equal skill level the M12 will easily beat the Gatling.
Gatling takes 1 fulls second to windup before shooting.
Is the heaviest weapon in the game, so your too slow to take cover.
Slows ones movement even more and stops jumping when shooting or winding up to shoot.
And it actually has recoil after after the 3rd shot.
So...
It takes a extra 1 second to react for the Gatling gun. Giving the M12 plenty of time to kill.
One is slow if using it. So the gat can't avoid being shot at.
One is practically frozen well shooting. Target practice anyone?
And the spray forces one to kill the target in the first 3 shots. Miss and your dead.
I use my Gatling all the time (it a hard weapon to use and I like a challenge), and it is very difficult to maintain a positive KDR in TDM and SND against noobs with it. Facing a pro is a death sentence for a Gat.
Yes. Any person 1V1'ing someone with a Gatling can technically beat them pretty easily if they are good with the mobility aspect. -
thisgameowns wrote: »Yes. Any person 1V1'ing someone with a Gatling can technically beat them pretty easily if they are good with the mobility aspect.
The gat pretty much forces camping. No mobility, long windup time, longer pullout time...
Basically you wait at a spot pre-spinning the barrel waiting for the target to come by to shoot. And any pro would know how to counter a camper easily. Only ever practical where one can afford to camp. GM, ESC as GR, MM/HM/HMX, and ZM. Basically where your targets are melee only.
Ways to counter camping.
Flash grenades, frag grenades, out flank them, prefire the camping spot, wait them out, and finally go another way and let them camp uselessly there. -
The gat pretty much forces camping. No mobility, long windup time, longer pullout time...
Basically you wait at a spot pre-spinning the barrel waiting for the target to come by to shoot. And any pro would know how to counter a camper easily. Only ever practical where one can afford to camp. GM, ESC as GR, MM/HM/HMX, and ZM. Basically where your targets are melee only.
Ways to counter camping.
Flash grenades, frag grenades, out flank them, prefire the camping spot, wait them out, and finally go another way and let them camp uselessly there.
Yes. There are a billion ways to (not outsmart) but mobilize in a better position faster than a person equipped with the Gatling Gun. -
Get ready for an extra long post...MrExploits wrote: »that's right.. if they don't like someone using an m12's then let them GTFO..right?
No because you have no power over anyone else.It's considered noob, Because anyone can do well without it. Personally i don't care what guns people use.
Don't make generalisations in your arguments. I can't do well with it. That basically voids your argument.Level of skill for doing so ? Smiley rank
seriouslu u heard of the word tapping or burst ? I guess not, thats not how that op crap weapon works...
Yes, that is the level of skill you would need to do that. People who are good with M12s, tap and burst. If you really find you can't tap and burst a SMG, I suggest you see a doctor, you might have arthritis.It's a gun literally anyone can use and do well with it. None of the guns in Crossfire come close to how cheap it is, I believe Scar Light is runner up, but m12s is just a really unfortunate present gun. It needs to be nerfed, badly. More recoil perhaps?
So, if everyone could use a gun properly in a game, it's OP? What sort of scale is that? That's like saying. Oh, everyone who plays competitively can use M4 and do well with it, it MUST be OP and CHEAP. Let's nerf it.YoNoobNoob wrote: »Lol... Its a noob gun because it is not a difficult weapon to use. The AK-47, M4, AWM, XM8, SG552 and whatever the hell else take time to become good with it. You cant just go out and start wrecking face with an M4 or a Steyr. HOWEVER, with the M12, you can just go out and start spraying and be better than you previously were. Yes the AK47 has a low kill time, IF YOU CAN USE IT RIGHT. The M12s? Psh... spray spray spray kill. Low kill time regardless of skill level or used-ness.
It is a difficult weapon to use. I go out spraying with my M12s all the time. It doesn't work. How do you explain that? I spray my M4, I get hs all around the map, how do you explain that? It is not low kill time, the kill time sucks, rubbish 2 shot hs.It's considered a noob gun because most people who use m12s spray with the gun until they kill you
And if people who spray can kill you, then you must not be aiming. Making you exactly the same as them...Mhm....
Okay
Ghost zp/ crate guns are supposed to be better , the m12s tips the scales as it outclasess all gp crate guns
and costs only 43k -.-
It does not. Most rifles outclass M12s. -
i agree with u, and SR-2m Veresk is more OP than M12s, reload faster and higher RoF with 5 shot kill dmg. i often see ppl using veresk pwning M12s user, (and 1 of them is me). M12s is like a small kid compare to veresk (teenager). and of course i understand y ppl hate it, cause it is easy to use, my cousin play for the first time using this gun and he become Top Ace. but i can easily adapt to any guns ak, k2, m4, u name it (except sniper cause i m noob with sniper) although i didnt like m4 and AUG. it doesnt matter how good r ur guns in FPS games, cause i seen ppl with low lvl pwning AWM with M700.( they are experience with FPS games though) and they like quick firing guns and dmg doesnt matter too much cause them aim for HEADSHOT !
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and by the way , this thread can be closed now cause there is no point discussing or flaming. i like 2 vent out my anger on forum but i understand that there is nothing we can do. ppl will still call u m12s noob no matter how u complain, next time just giv the m12s and after they used it and (normally) like it, they will stop complaining cause many of them are just jealous of how easy u can kill with M12s and congratulate urself for having a good gun [ just like me : ) ]
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i might buy it when i get the level required. i got 200k GP to spend
Don't buy it.Believe me,I got one when I finally reached the rank,used it a week and now it sits in my storrage.Same as my sl,never use them since they both suck and it's boring to play with them.Get urself an ak/m4 and have fun.
Or some of the guns that nobody uses,like famas,type89 or the tar21. -
y is m12s noob caz its gp and pwns like kriss super while u need to pay lot of zp for it? i am sure all who saying m12s is noob will pick it up in match if its owner is dead. atleast u pick up kriss super for sure. they both r same so kriss users r noob too
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y is m12s noob caz its gp and pwns like kriss super while u need to pay lot of zp for it? i am sure all who saying m12s is noob will pick it up in match if its owner is dead. atleast u pick up kriss super for sure. they both r same so kriss users r noob too
Actually the Kriss is worse then the M12.
Kriss is more like the MP5 without the wallbang.
People call it noob because it was one of the first ZP crate guns that wasn't a M4/AK/AWM and thus gained the status of being the ZP wh.... Gun. The status just kinda stuck even with the new ZP crates that are released. -
Actually the Kriss is worse then the M12.
Kriss is more like the MP5 without the wallbang.
People call it noob because it was one of the first ZP crate guns that wasn't a M4/AK/AWM and thus gained the status of being the ZP wh.... Gun. The status just kinda stuck even with the new ZP crates that are released.
yeh but many people bought even the kriss silver wen its realesed may be its not so noob -
First of all, don't compare that trashy m12 to an ak.
m12 is for the biggest nubs in crossfire, and ak is for good players
not to mention its you vs the world, no1 cries about ak and everyone hates m12 which should be taken out of the game. M12 users = advanced noobs. -
First of all, don't compare that trashy m12 to an ak.
m12 is for the biggest nubs in crossfire, and ak is for good players
not to mention its you vs the world, no1 cries about ak and everyone hates m12 which should be taken out of the game. M12 users = advanced noobs.
So? If you can HS with M12 ,there's no point of who's noob -
rCaliberGX wrote: »It's the other way around. Snipers are the guns that can kill the farthest, and in the fastest time, while also being easy to handle due to scope zoom.
I'm talking about different levels,sure sniper are easy to use,but can people hit targets every time?no,some people can't even hit it
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