I've never won anything in the BM! :S
Well fear not, this post is meant for you guys! :P
This is how the blackmarket of crates works, there is a timeline that the z8 corp has for whenever all of the players would win a gun. The timeline varies from every day, every hour, and every 20 minutes (since this is the average server refresh time, it can change tho :S). This is including every single gun is won at approx the same time period. If you haven't noticed when you win a gun, the idea is you IMMEDIATELY switch to a different gun crate and keep spinning. I won 5 of my gun crates just switching from gun to gun. I never realized it, but after the moment i won the same gun won the same pair of gun that i did 5 times. It was no coincidence i've seen it happen a couple times as well during the game.
THE REAL TRICK to winning crates in the blackmarket has nothing to do with the spin. It has to do with the time, which is why if you spin more you have a higher chance of winning NOT because you get more opportunities.
Its because you are spinning more rounds during the time limit of winning crates. People call this tagging, this is how most ppl that you see in the highscores win their crates. They wait for a person to win a crate then immediately joining the spinning contest. Once the time runs out, you do not have the change of winning.
You might not believe all of what i wrote here, that is up to you to decide, but i know for a fact it doesn't matter the amount of crates, its if you get into the exact time limit that you have.:) Happy spinning and good luck!
This is how the blackmarket of crates works, there is a timeline that the z8 corp has for whenever all of the players would win a gun. The timeline varies from every day, every hour, and every 20 minutes (since this is the average server refresh time, it can change tho :S). This is including every single gun is won at approx the same time period. If you haven't noticed when you win a gun, the idea is you IMMEDIATELY switch to a different gun crate and keep spinning. I won 5 of my gun crates just switching from gun to gun. I never realized it, but after the moment i won the same gun won the same pair of gun that i did 5 times. It was no coincidence i've seen it happen a couple times as well during the game.
THE REAL TRICK to winning crates in the blackmarket has nothing to do with the spin. It has to do with the time, which is why if you spin more you have a higher chance of winning NOT because you get more opportunities.
Its because you are spinning more rounds during the time limit of winning crates. People call this tagging, this is how most ppl that you see in the highscores win their crates. They wait for a person to win a crate then immediately joining the spinning contest. Once the time runs out, you do not have the change of winning.
You might not believe all of what i wrote here, that is up to you to decide, but i know for a fact it doesn't matter the amount of crates, its if you get into the exact time limit that you have.:) Happy spinning and good luck!
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I dont think its time I think its to do with a certain number of crates like 5000. 1 person wins the permanent gun out of 5000crates brought. That is why lots of people won QBZ camo because everyone kept opening that crate so the 5000th crate kept being reached quickly and so lots of people kept winning it. It isnt to do with time because there were lots of QBZ winners but hardly any thompson or xm8 adv. If it was time then there would be equal about of winners.
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AR3SN4L4L1FE wrote: »I dont think its time I think its to do with a certain number of crates like 5000. 1 person wins the permanent gun out of 5000crates brought. That is why lots of people won QBZ camo because everyone kept opening that crate so the 5000th crate kept being reached quickly and so lots of people kept winning it. It isnt to do with time because there were lots of QBZ winners but hardly any thompson or xm8 adv. If it was time then there would be equal about of winners.
I doubt it, many times you see people winning the same weapon twice sometimes two different people win it at the same time. So I think the "time theory" could actually be correct. -
according to my experience, the chances of winning a crate gun is 1/1000
It could be anything, again let me tell you from my experience. I had 1K ZP and I wanted an easter grenade for 7 days, so I bought 1 Easter crate and BAM I won the SL RD, then when Halloween came I bought 150 crates and didn't win any of the guns. So yeah it's 10000% random/luck. -
It could be anything, again let me tell you from my experience. I had 1K ZP and I wanted an easter grenade for 7 days, so I bought 1 Easter crate and BAM I won the SL RD, then when Halloween came I bought 150 crates and didn't win any of the guns. So yeah it's 10000% random/luck.
cant be 100% random, computers just cant do that. the only way you could exploit the system is if you knew the exact algorithm that the crates work on... -
master_mann wrote: »cant be 100% random, computers just cant do that. the only way you could exploit the system is if you knew the exact algorithm that the crates work on...
don't have to go that deep into it. You spin a crate you get 3 random items. that's that.. -
I grew up in casino country, Nevada. I'm also a computer science Major. I know a thing or 2 about programming, and BM Crates are 100% about a mathematical algorithm... You may be right that there is a time involved in the algorithm but until you are 100% positive what the algorithm is you can't say what it is based on definitively.
Personally I've spent HOURS opening masses of crates trying to win something and I doubt the time theory of yours. Then again last month I won 3 ZP Crate guns in less than 20-30 crates, and I played my superstitions that being on a certain server hindered me so I changed servers every 10 crates... but really Its all about luck until you definitively know the algorithm. -
My theory is the "radio contest". You must be the nth caller to win whatever.
A number may be generated randomly, but it isn't a specific person to win, it's the number of crates spun out of everyone spinning that specific crate. When that person wins, a new number is generated.
Say the number 29 is generated. The 29th person to spin that crate will win the associated prize. Then the number changes.
Aren't I clever and original?
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it can and it is

Nope, in fact anything that humans design are all related to patterns. Even lotteries, there are some ppl that found a way to increase chances of winning lotteries without spending consistant amount of money. I know for a fact, that i am pretty sure there is a "time limit" frame.
1.If it was random, don't u think there would probably alot more complaints about not winning any crate guns? Alot of complaints meaning, pages, and pages of forums of people that are upset filling the website forum category.
2. Now if you were to roll dice you can predict the possibility, but what if the possibility is not on the dice?. How would you determine who gets 7 on a die? So due to this, i believe that my time theory is correct.
3. Also if there is such thing as being random, then why is it that you can see the crate gun that you missed in your spin? IF THE SPIN IS RANDOM, THEN THE SPIN WOULDN'T SHOW THE GUN THAT YOU COULD HAVE WON. The determining factor would be if you recieved the gun as the second item, assuming that the gun appears only once within spins. There have been rare occurances where you can get 2 guns in a row in one crate. But usually, that is a result of a system glitch. Because z8, doesn't run a stable game in the first place...
Fact is, if you get in this time frame whether you have one crate gun or 10 crate guns you will win a gun. I promise you, this is a hard thing to prove but i've been trying to track it down ever since last month. -
SEG_Golden wrote: »Nope, in fact anything that humans design are all related to patterns. Even lotteries, there are some ppl that found a way to increase chances of winning lotteries without spendings consistant amount of money. I know for a fact, that i am pretty sure there is a "time limit" frame.
1.If it was random, don't u think there would probably alot more complaints about not winning any crate guns? Alot of complaints meaning, pages, and pages of forums of people that are upset filling the website forum category.
2. Now if you were to roll dice you can predict the possibility, but what if the possibility is not on the dice?. How would you determine who gets 7 on a die? So due to this, i believe that my time theory is correct.
3. Also if there is such thing as being random, then why is it that you can see the crate gun that you missed in your spin? IF THE SPIN IS RANDOM, THEN THE SPIN WOULDN'T SHOW THE GUN THAT YOU COULD HAVE WON. The determining factor would be if you recieved the gun as the second item, assuming that the gun appears only once within spins. There have been rare occurances where you can get 2 guns in a row in one crate. But usually, that is a result of a system glitch. Because z8, doesn't run a stable game in the first place...
Fact is, if you get in this time frame whether you have one crate gun or 10 crate guns you will win a gun. I promise you, this is a hard thing to prove but i've been trying to track it down ever since last month.
1) No.
2) What? Possibility not on the dice.... ummm? What?
3) You're using faulty reasoning based on assumptions, use facts instead. Also check the definition of facts. -
What do you mean facts? Are you taunting me? There is no such thing as "facts" other than educated guesses. I said i know for a fact that i would be right. Please don't post random bull**** saying that it is random. Some people don't know anything beyond this game, if you have nothing good to say then don't say anything. -Amen
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My theory is the "radio contest". You must be the nth caller to win whatever.
A number may be generated randomly, but it isn't a specific person to win, it's the number of crates spun out of everyone spinning that specific crate. When that person wins, a new number is generated.
Say the number 29 is generated. The 29th person to spin that crate will win the associated prize. Then the number changes.
Aren't I clever and original?
gata point thar -
okay, the only trick to win BM guns is:
Keep buy crates and spin until you win the gun. if you fail at 100 crates just buy 1000 crates and spin. if you fail 1000 crates just buy more until you win. believe me, it's true. As long as you can spin 24/24 a day you can win the gun -
okay, the only trick to win BM guns is:
Keep buy crates and spin until you win the gun. if you fail at 100 crates just buy 1000 crates and spin. if you fail 1000 crates just buy more until you win. believe me, it's true. As long as you can spin 24/24 a day you can win the gun
only a rich guy like u can afford so many crates, not many ppl can get that many zp, but i agree is about luck,my frien got tommy, deagle camo and aug camo without spending so much money, he is lucky for that time, now no more
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