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Cookz, if he isn't going to overclock, why did you suggest a $90 cooler? And a 6950 will outperform the 6870 98% of the times, so please stop bull****ting people.
You talk about a lesser build? Lose the hard drive and the total should be almost as much as your build, but with a much better GPU. I am beginning to doubt your "touch", good sir. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »Cookz, if he isn't going to overclock, why did you suggest a $90 cooler?
As I'd already stated:This is a rig I put together for RTOMan a couple of weeks back.
I've also added liquid cooling since he's planning on OC'ing the CPU to around 4.0Ghz, however if you're staying at stock speeds, you'd be fine using the stock cooler, saving you $89.99Kedaamikeda wrote: »And a 6950 will outperform the 6870 98% of the times, so please stop bull****ting people.
You talk about a lesser build? Lose the hard drive and the total should be almost as much as your build, but with a much better GPU. I am beginning to doubt your "touch", good sir.
He's going to be using 1680x1050/1920x1080 at most, I doubt he's going to want to pay an extra $100 for a couple more fps at those resolutions. As I'd already said, BF3 is pretty much the only market game out there right now that'll utilize 1GB+ at those resolutions.
Where's he supposed to find a monitor that'll go near those resolutions with the $39 he'll have left from your build? -
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You mean the 1GB version which costs near enough the same as the 2GB, yet barely gets 2 fps more than the regular 1GB 6870?
Good choice.
Oh and it's alright to suggest a $90 cooler for a 4.0GHz clock when the same can be achieved with a $35 cooler.
Good choice.
The 6950 is much more future proof than the 6870. Yes games can't fully utilize all steam processors the 6950 has, but future games are surely to push it. That's when the 6870 will fall behind. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »Oh and it's alright to suggest a $90 cooler for a 4.0GHz clock when the same can be achieved with a $35 cooler.
Good choice.
The 6950 is much more future proof than the 6870. Yes games can't fully utilize all steam processors the 6950 has, but future games are surely to push it. That's when the 6870 will fall behind.
As I'd already stated in my very first post in this thread, that cooler was for RTO, not SilverEagle. RTO is planning on playing very CPU intensive games such as GTA IV online. If he wants to overclock that i5 and stray from crashing on multiplayer due to mass spawns, his CPU and surrounding parts need to stay cool at all times.
The 6950 is no more future proof than the 6870, games are already utilizing all available resources that GPU has below 1920x1200.
As I'd stated, where's he supposed to get a monitor that'll go past those resolutions with the money he'd have left from your build?
He had a good $300 left from my build, and around $60 left from your build.
Come back when you actually get paid to put rigs together, as it's quite obvious you have literally no idea what you're doing. -
As I'd already stated in my very first post in this thread, that cooler was for RTO, not SilverEagle. RTO is planning on playing very CPU intensive games such as GTA IV online. If he wants to overclock that i5 and stray from crashing on multiplayer due to mass spawns, his CPU and surrounding parts need to stay cool at all times.
The 6950 is no more future proof than the 6870, games are already utilizing all available resources that GPU has below 1920x1200.
As I'd stated, where's he supposed to get a monitor that'll go past those resolutions with the money he'd have left from your build?
He had a good $300 left from my build, and around $60 left from your build.
Come back when you actually get paid to put rigs together, as it's quite obvious you have literally no idea what you're doing.
Don't really care who the build is for. A $35 cooler is enough for a 4.5GHz overclock on the 2500k. A h70 is not needed.
I included a hard drive as well pushing the price over $900. Lose the hard-drive, CPU cooler and optical drive and it should be much lower.
Come back when you actually learn math. -
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Kedaamikeda wrote: »You didn't read my last post properly it seems.
Lose the hard drive -90
Lose the cooler -35
$125 savings right there.
So you're planning on running that rig with no HDD?
You'll still struggle to get a decent monitor that'll fit the purpose of you suggesting that 6950. -
So you're planning on running that rig with no HDD?
You'll still struggle to get a decent monitor that'll fit the purpose of you suggesting that 6950.
My god you are slow. I was doing a comparison of the prices between my build and the build you posted earlier since you keep bringing up the price so often. Yours didn't have a HDD either. If you added one, it would go way over $900 as well.
And where does he say he needs a new monitor? -
Switch the bulky Antec 900 for a CoolerMaster Black ATX Mid for saving $30, take the liquid cooling he won't need away leaves me with $741.
Add a Seagate Barracuda 500GB (notably better than the HDD you'd linked) for $89.99 takes my sub-total to $830.
Add this 23.6" ASUS 2ms Full HD LED monitor and you're pretty much slap bang on $1000.
This business isn't hard, you're just making it look that way.
The hilarious thing is, my build wasn't even catered for SilverEagle in the first place.hook it up to yo brain, that is like at least 1TB.
It's an SSD, too
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Care to point out said pricing errors?
And don't dodge, find me a 1920x1080 compatible monitor for $39.
Your build with the monitor goes upto $1040, not quite under $1k he was looking for.
And did he even want a monitor in the first place, that you have been whining about the same thing for the last 20 posts. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »Your build with the monitor goes upto $1040, not quite under $1k he was looking for.
And did he even want a monitor in the first place, that you have been whining about the same thing for the last 20 posts.
You might want to recheck your calculations, it comes to pretty much bang on $1000
The point of the monitor was that you'd suggested an overly expensive GPU which would have no benefits over the much cheaper GPU I'd suggested on a standard monitor.
If you're going to suggest someone buy something, it's usually a good idea to suggest something they can actually use.
Do you have downs? Because I'll go easy on you if you have downs. -
You might want to recheck your calculations, it comes to pretty much bang on $1000
The point of the monitor was that you'd suggested an overly expensive GPU which would have no benefits over the much cheaper GPU I'd suggested on a standard monitor.
If you're going to suggest someone buy something, it's usually a good idea to suggest something they can actually use.
Do you have downs? Because I'll go easy on you if you have downs.
You tell me about suggesting expensive components, when you yourself go on to suggest someone a $90 cooler for a 4 GHz overclock when the same can be achieved with a $35 one. And a 1600MHz RAM which has zero advantage in the real world. And a seagate drive, goddamn.
Did you drop out of elementary school? I will go easy on you if you did. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »You tell me about suggesting expensive components, when you yourself go on to suggest someone a $90 cooler for a 4 GHz overclock when the same can be achieved with a $35 one. And a 1600MHz RAM which has zero advantage in the real world. And a seagate drive, goddamn.
Did you drop out of elementary school? I will go easy on you if you did.
As I'd already stated (for the fourteenth time), that cooler was chosen for the fact that RTO will be playing extremely CPU heavy games such as GTA IV. Getting the base clock speed isn't always the most important thing, I know it can seem that way to somebody who doesn't understand the technical side of it, but the CPU needs to maintain it's cooling otherwise his game's going to crash, it's how GTA runs, and it's one of the main game's he;s planning on playing.
1600Mhz RAM has multiple advantages. So what you're trying to say is faster processing RAM is essentially pointless? Oh lord.
Care to explain what's wrong with Seagate drives? And I don't mean what's wrong with them, in your opinion. The only issue I've ever known somebody to have only ever involved the 1.5TB+ HDDs.
Sure beats that gutter Hitatchi crap you linked, either way.
Still waiting on that monitor. -
As I'd already stated (for the fourteenth time), that cooler was chosen for the fact that RTO will be playing extremely CPU heavy games such as GTA IV. Getting the base clock speed isn't always the most important thing, I know it can seem that way to somebody who doesn't understand the technical side of it, but the CPU needs to maintain it's cooling otherwise his game's going to crash, it's how GTA runs, and it's one of the main game's he;s planning on playing.
1600Mhz RAM has multiple advantages. So what you're trying to say is faster processing RAM is essentially pointless? Oh lord.
Care to explain what's wrong with Seagate drives? And I don't mean what's wrong with them, in your opinion. The only issue I've ever known somebody to have only ever involved the 1.5TB+ HDDs.
Sure beats that gutter Hitatchi crap you linked, either way.
Still waiting on that monitor.
My god where did this guy come from. Here, I will write with big spaces and caps since you are ******ed.
A $35 COOLER CAN MAINTAIN 35C IDLE AND SUB-60C TEMPS AT 4GHZ. NO NEED FOR $90 COOLER.
Sure if you consider <1% improvement from 1333 to 1600 RAM, then yea there must be some REAL usage for it.
You can learn a lot from me Cook, just have to pay attention. Come to me and I will slap some sense into you. -
I don't understand why the concept having your CPU cooled is such an issue for you, especially since you don't seem to grasp the concept that GTA will put more than enough pressure on that CPU to take it way beyond 60c at 4.0Ghz.
1600Mhz OCs far better than 1333Mhz in general, and OCing is where you'll notice that difference. You mentioned future-proofing with that laughable 6950, so why question doing the same with the RAM (ignoring the fact that it came in a Corsair bundle with the PSU, and I had no choice with what memory came in that bundle).
Would you like to hop on the ESG Mumble and explain your side, since we're only taking SilverEagle's thread way off track. Especially since you still haven't added a monitor to that build.
The info is:
esg.commandchannel.com
31286
I'll be in the lobby. -
I don't understand why the concept having your CPU cooled is such an issue for you, especially since you don't seem to grasp the concept that GTA will put more than enough pressure on that CPU to take it way beyond 60c at 4.0Ghz.
1600Mhz OCs far better than 1333Mhz in general, and OCing is where you'll notice that difference. You mentioned future-proofing with that laughable 6950, so why question doing the same with the RAM (ignoring the fact that it came in a Corsair bundle with the PSU, and I had no choice with what memory came in that bundle).
Would you like to hop on the ESG Mumble and explain your side, since we're only taking SilverEagle's thread way off track. Especially since you still haven't added a monitor to that build.
The info is:
esg.commandchannel.com
31286
I'll be in the lobby.
What? There will be noticable performance between 1600Mhz RAM vs 1333RAM? Wow this guy. Please, I beg you, please do some actual research before making such dumb, ignorant comments. Make you look like an idiot.
And you failed to include a monitor within $1000, so yea. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »What? There will be noticable performance between 1600Mhz RAM vs 1333RAM? Wow this guy. Please, I beg you, please do some actual research before making such dumb, ignorant comments. Make you look like an idiot.
And you failed to include a monitor within $1000, so yea.
Have you benchmarked the RAM performance differences by yourself?
No one has the right to critiscize without the actual proof.
Also, looking at benchmarking through the internet isn't really valid, people do mistakes, give off biased info, so, unless you've tested it personally, it's nothing but a matter of personal opinion and guessing.
But yeah RAM speeds doesn not make much difference in benchmarking, but the prices are just too cheap, and there are indications, that the higher frequency RAM's do better with OC'ed systems. So, for it's price today, it's getting actually atracting, just like DDR3 first came out, overpriced, not much of a visual performance boost, but look now, it's the basic requirement for RAM today. -
Kedaamikeda wrote: »What? There will be noticable performance between 1600Mhz RAM vs 1333RAM? Wow this guy. Please, I beg you, please do some actual research before making such dumb, ignorant comments. Make you look like an idiot.
Do you read whole posts, or just pick and choose words?1600Mhz OCs far better than 1333Mhz in general, and OCing is where you'll notice that difference.Kedaamikeda wrote: »What? There will be noticable performance between 1600Mhz RAM vs 1333RAM? Wow
And you failed to include a monitor within $1000, so yea.
ASUS 24x DVD-RW - $19.99
CoolerMaster Black ATX Mid Case - $59.99
AMD XFX 6870 DD *** Edition w/ free Dirt 3 - $189.99
Gigabyte 1155 Z68 ATM Motherboard - $129.99
Intel Core i5 2500k w/ Intel cooler - $219.99
Corsair 600W PSU + 8GB Vengeance RAM bundle - $121.98
Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD - $89.99
ASUS 23.6" Full HD LED Monitor - $169.99
Total - $1001.91
Even you could understand that, surely.
Now stop dodging with your god awful excuses and hop on mumble.
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