Racism and Discrimination, the True iusse with Crossfire.
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Wheres_Mommy wrote: »And nothing is being done about it.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=165034
yea nothing is being done...... -
I don't experience this problem at all....
WHY?
1.) Because I play in Echo 8, where we KICK the BRs.
be warned if u use spop or any "noob cannons" you will get kicked
2.) I play with my clanmates in private rooms. we always have enough on to play private gamesI ARE SMART -
How about how A LOT of NA treats them? Ever think that they treat YOU that way because a lot of NA players treat them that way?
It's a two-way street. Learn to see the bigger picture. North American's are not just the victim.
I don't experience anything you say that happens. The fact you ran into a bad bunch means that they all are discriminating NA players? You're being a little ignorant don't you think? -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Are you sure you can read?
I feel attacked by this thread. You are so obviously against every single Non-American ever and you are very racist yourself
So Im a racist becuase i want a server only for NA, in a video game.
Are you sure you can read? I'm not mad at them becuase of their race, im mad becuase of what they are doing to me and other players.ALTJOSHWAH wrote: »I'm ashamed to be a NA player thanks to you. 1. You're obviously bad. 2. We could care less about your problems. 3 Do us a favor and get off the forums.
Instead of just insulting me (basically), give me some reasons.the only "white" people here are them irish ... everyone else is pretty much tan. not sure which world u live in. and who are you to judge that ? when u say non NA , are you reffereing to "Everyone else" besides america and canada ? - cuz thats a "lol" moment right there
just for the record, pure brazilians are white..
i have just one word to throw at you
> " DUMBASS"
Technically that also includes UK players but we have servers for them and they arnt really ever a problem to NA players. but that doesn't matter.
Also Gringo means White person or foreigner, technically it isnt quite offensive slang but the way it is being used makes it racist.
Back when |\|igger wasn't technically wasn't a discriminatory word (it was Neutral like gringo), if it where used in the fashion gringo is being used it now would most definitely be racist.[MOD]Polleus wrote: »How about how A LOT of NA treats them? Ever think that they treat YOU that way because a lot of NA players treat them that way?
It's a two-way street. Learn to see the bigger picture. North American's are not just the victim.
I don't experience anything you say that happens. The fact you ran into a bad bunch means that they all are discriminating NA players? You're being a little ignorant don't you think?
Of course, i acknowledge that, but i have yet to see any NA player taking so far as some Non NA players. -
Wheres_Mommy wrote: »Of course, i acknowledge that, but i have yet to see any NA player taking so far as some Non NA players.
Then you don't see what we take care of on the forums on a daily basis. You don't see it because we remove it generally before anyone gets a chance to respond on it. MANY North American players take it as far and farther. I understand that you wouldn't know that because we usually take care of it. But, trust me when I say, it's definitely a two-way street. A lot of NA players treat them just as bad, not only in the forums, but in-game as well. -
Wheres_Mommy wrote: »The forum is different from the game.
No, it's not.
Discrimination and harassment of one nationality to another is common in some servers (more in some than in others). I always rebuke Brazilians who offend other countries. I rebuke those who talk in Portuguese instead of English (do it just to irritate those who do not speak Portuguese) and I always try to avoid swearing (even when they are directed to me)
Now, these offenses are a presence, when you have anonymity to protect you. The only thing I can show you is: keep reporting. Do not be lazy. only vigilance can ensure quality.
NOTE: Vigilance is different from pursuit !!!!!! -
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You're currently discriminating anyone not from NA? Someone currently is just as bad, when you only mentioned BRs, and now that's supposedly the only non NA players.
Go uninstall CF.
Q OF TRUTHWheres_Mommy wrote: »How its done, its different in game then it is in the forum.
You're ******ed.
Discrimination is discrimination.
Why is this thread going on?
Mods do something. SERIOSLY. -
Discrimination is Discrimination, but how someone is discriminated apon and how often is not the same in game then it is on the forum.
I don't see NA users on the forum calling vote kicks on BRs to kick them out of their thread for their quick reply hacks now do we? -
Wheres_Mommy wrote: »Discrimination is Discrimination, but how someone is discriminated apon and how often is not the same in game then it is on the forum.
I don't see NA users on the forum calling vote kicks on BRs to kick them out of their thread for their quick reply hacks now do we?
You sir, are a forum nooby.
We dont take kindly to your kind around here. -
55supermario wrote: »i have some br stalkers as well whenever they find me i get kicked for having a low ping or a good score this discrimination and racist remarks are a problem but its pretty easy to report them
This is not racism!
This is called: A bunch of Brazilian children who should take a beating from the parents to learn to be more educated. -
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55supermario wrote: »when u get called a gringo and other words in-game constintly thats raciscm ty
Please understand.
"Gringo" means to us: foreigners.
Just as you guys call "non NA"
I do not interpret this as racism, because it does not refer to any culture in particular. We call "gringo" anyone outside of our culture. And please, here it has no evil connotation. It's a slang. Not an insult!!
Now, of course depending on how it is written and pronounced, may be offensive but, like any other word.
But do not think that all are aggressive toward strangers here. Instead, I always have fun with everyone, especially during Carnival. They are more cheerful and fun than ourselves. -
I don't know how you recognize a NA-player, but if you mean "50 ping og lower" then it counts me in, even though I'm from Denmark, Scandinavia, Europe - NOT NA. So how do you then think people recognize NA-players, and then stalk them because they are NA? I don't think you can tell a NA-player from a non-na-player.
Conclusion: Maybe they stalk you because of your ping. Maybe because you have said something racist to them (to be honest - I think you have), but defenately not because you're a NA player.
Oh, and all low-pinged players are not beeing discriminated. I have never seen such a thing happen.
It actually hurts my feelings when you indirectly says, that all not-na's are racist. I hope not! - I am (off course) against racism, unlike many americans, appearently including you.
(BTW all this was for the one who started the tread, I pay my respect to that Confederado guy) -
just for the record, pure brazilians are white..
Pure ? Did you just used the word pure ? Not only you're wrong, as the people we could truly call brasilians are the first humans that inhabited the region and these people were/are everything but white, but you're wrong (that's twice in a sentence) as per the use of pure followed by a nationality. There are no pure germans, no pure brasilians, no pure americans.
Only pure stupidity.[MOD]Polleus wrote: »How about how A LOT of NA treats them? Ever think that they treat YOU that way because a lot of NA players treat them that way?
Maybe we should go further in the past. When I started playing CF more than 2 years ago, we were all mixed up, NA, SA and UK. Back then the most discriminatory people were the BR. I think one can easily say they started being rude to what they consider foreigners.
In CF I had nothing against brasilians when I started but it took me less than a month to understand that they QQed, hacked and insulted the most.
So yeah, perhaps now both side act as bad, but Imho, there was a time where BR and SA in general were the most virulent. There's no smoke without fire, guess who I think started it.
Concerning OT, I think you're exaggerating or you're a victim. Either case, chill out. Real racism has nothing to do with kicking from a game room. I don't think (I hope at least) you'll be QQing here about that if real racism happened to you IRL.
I've got one solution for you though : learn portuguese and blend in. Tell them that you live in America or that you have ping hack. -
I don't know how you recognize a NA-player, but if you mean "50 ping og lower" then it counts me in, even though I'm from Denmark, Scandinavia, Europe - NOT NA. So how do you then think people recognize NA-players, and then stalk them because they are NA? I don't think you can tell a NA-player from a non-na-player.
Conclusion: Maybe they stalk you because of your ping. Maybe because you have said something racist to them (to be honest - I think you have), but defenately not because you're a NA player.
Oh, and all low-pinged players are not beeing discriminated. I have never seen such a thing happen.
It actually hurts my feelings when you indirectly says, that all not-na's are racist. I hope not! - I am (off course) against racism, unlike many americans, appearently including you.
(BTW all this was for the one who started the tread, I pay my respect to that Confederado guy)
I was saying that most of the racism is other people assuming a NA player is white.
NA players usually = may or may not only speak good English (good not proper), usually great ping, rarely uses foreign terms, ect.
Where did I indirectly say that ALL non NA players are raciest, can you even give me a quote that implies that?
Ironically when you say you are against racism, and then proceed to a say Americans (as how much is many), including I support racism. Is a Cultural Stereotype and goes hand in hand with racism and or discrimination. -
Hells_Judge wrote: »Maybe we should go further in the past. When I started playing CF more than 2 years ago, we were all mixed up, NA, SA and UK. Back then the most discriminatory people were the BR. I think one can easily say they started being rude to what they consider foreigners.
In CF I had nothing against brasilians when I started but it took me less than a month to understand that they QQed, hacked and insulted the most.
When I started, there wasn't anyone QQing, and nobody cared if someone lagged or was a foreigner. -
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