auto ban fails big time

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  • Katsuko_o wrote: »
    It´s all about money..

    When will you people learn. 7 days ban, they come back, buy zp, continue playing--rinse and repeat.

    皆さんこの人はエピックフェイル。

    Do your really believe that?
    When will you learn not to be dumb? Thats the autoban.

    Report bans were there is 100% undeniable confirmation of a cheater is a permanent ban.


    Please. Use common sense.
    Damn your too good.

    You have to put it in the language she speaks good sir.
    God, cant believe that my own people are this ridiculous to believe these lies.
  • When will you learn not to be dumb? Thats the autoban.

    Report bans were there is 100% undeniable confirmation of a cheater is a permanent ban.

    Please. Use common sense.

    The best joke I read it today.

    Z8 uses permanent ban - ahha, lol, omg - sorry, but they (Z8) first check your account, if you spent enough money on the game (CF) you'll never get permanent ban.

    You think I'm lying - please tell my, why "nice" ZP account still active in game (last play date) if I reported them (2-3 months ago, with replay) for the use of cheats (1 shot kill, speed shot, instant reload) - they just lost Honorable Ribbon - 0 DAYS BAN.
  • I just don't understand why this boat has so many holes? The holes continually get "patched", but it seems like its a constant battle plugging new holes.

    My kids never have to QQ on Webkinz...maybe X-trap should look into their security model. lol ;)
  • Only high level players you can meet are farmers now. Oh and they're no pro.
  • m2522350 wrote: »
    The best joke I read it today.

    Z8 uses permanent ban - ahha, lol, omg - sorry, but they (Z8) first check your account, if you spent enough money on the game (CF) you'll never get permanent ban.

    You think I'm lying - please tell my, why "nice" ZP account still active in game (last play date) if I reported them (2-3 months ago, with replay) for the use of cheats (1 shot kill, speed shot, instant reload) - they just lost Honorable Ribbon - 0 DAYS BAN.

    Yes, they do....

    No they dont check if they have bought ZP.. all they see is a name and the replay. They dont know if they have bought zp or how much. It doesnt work like that

    You base your facts off assumptions.... which is stupid.


    He was more than likely caught by the auto ban and WAS banned if he lost the honourable soldier ribbon. chances are he stopped hacking because if he didnt, he would continue to have been caught everytime he tried to use hacks and banned again for longer until its a perm ban.
  • This game is a getting to the point where the jokes not funny any more we get like 15 days in a year where we get no hacks and the rest there is there taking so long even old hacks are coming back. But no there more interested in bringing out ZP content then doing anything else.
  • iwrnr wrote: »
    I'm sure he will believe you.

    I was thinking the same thing..



    Well its not my problem. Ive given them the facts... its their fault for being ignorant.
  • As mentioned,

    There is always a way to get around an IP, or a Mac Address or an account ban. The auto ban system is meant to discourage hacking by making it inconvenient.

    And the system does definitely work. And has been improved such that it is more strict than previous (as evident by the last patch notes).

    We still check all reports, and are currently working on ways to better handle that section of the system.

    Improvements will always be made, and hacks will always be discovered and handled by auto banning, and new hacks will always come out. And hackers will always exist. And we'll always ban hackers no matter what amount of ZP they have, or what rank they are etc etc..

    This stuff has been said a million times..
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This stuff has been said a million times..

    Yet noone listens and sit in their own fantasy world where they are always right.
  • Sl0wpoke wrote: »
    This game is a getting to the point where the jokes not funny any more we get like 15 days in a year where we get no hacks and the rest there is there taking so long even old hacks are coming back. But no there more interested in bringing out ZP content then doing anything else.

    You've been explained this a hundred times in posts. By people like myself, who are quoting you directly.

    So once again. The people who make new content are different than the people who work against hacking.

    New content is always going to come out. An artist does not have the programming knowledge to stop hacking. But the artist on the development team is not going to stop working on new content.

    This idea really needs to be conveyed.. Especially to people who repeatedly seem to miss this fact.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    This stuff has been said a million times..


    Tell me about it. If I'm getting sick of it (*cough*cough*) than I can't imagine how you guys feel, lol.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    As mentioned,

    There is always a way to get around an IP, or a Mac Address or an account ban. The auto ban system is meant to discourage hacking by making it inconvenient.

    And the system does definitely work. And has been improved such that it is more strict than previous (as evident by the last patch notes).

    We still check all reports, and are currently working on ways to better handle that section of the system.

    Improvements will always be made, and hacks will always be discovered and handled by auto banning, and new hacks will always come out. And hackers will always exist. And we'll always ban hackers no matter what amount of ZP they have, or what rank they are etc etc..

    This stuff has been said a million times..


    Maybe you should have it as a banner over the website.. Maybe, just maybe then, people will start to not ask obvious Q's....
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    You've been explained this a hundred times in posts. By people like myself, who are quoting you directly.

    So once again. The people who make new content are different than the people who work against hacking.

    New content is always going to come out. An artist does not have the programming knowledge to stop hacking. But the artist on the development team is not going to stop working on new content.

    This idea really needs to be conveyed.. Especially to people who repeatedly seem to miss this fact.

    There is only so many years people will wait for something to be done. Surely it cant be that hard.
  • [GM]Saidin wrote: »
    As mentioned,

    There is always a way to get around an IP, or a Mac Address or an account ban. The auto ban system is meant to discourage hacking by making it inconvenient.

    And the system does definitely work. And has been improved such that it is more strict than previous (as evident by the last patch notes).

    We still check all reports, and are currently working on ways to better handle that section of the system.

    Improvements will always be made, and hacks will always be discovered and handled by auto banning, and new hacks will always come out. And hackers will always exist. And we'll always ban hackers no matter what amount of ZP they have, or what rank they are etc etc..

    This stuff has been said a million times..
    That's called lack of credibility and the only ones to blame are you. How do you expect people to believe you when in-game they see all kind of monkeys running faster than a Ferrari for more than almost a month already?

    You had 2-3 weeks of quiet forums about cheating and cheaters when the cheating situation was acceptable almost one month ago. Now when situation is bad people fill the forums with their upsets.
  • I do not blame anyone "personally" but look at the facts (topic from a few days) where the player presented how cheats work.
    He played, he used cheats and when he started CrossFire x-trap was active and working (does not even need to use bypass).
    This is program to protect against cheats?
    Let's be serious - at the present time only PunkBuster has not been fully "broken" and only PB (with responsible administrators) gives a sense of fairness during the game.
    Of course, is more expensive but better game (without cheats) = more chances for players willing to buy ZP.
  • Tinamou1 wrote: »
    they could just ban all brazillians. that would in turn ban a lot of hackers, laggers, QQ'ers, in general, people who have no clue how to play the game, so get an m12 and hold down left click while pressing w and get multi-kills. either that or they figure people like me with just a 2 kdr "hack" and thereby "justify" their use of hacks.....(even though we all know it's just cuz they have no skill and HAVE to hack to go positive)

    Bad idea z8 would lose to manny people (ZP Br's- Legit Br's)

    nice failed quote. and are u acctually saying that BR's who buy zp are legit?
  • 1. Change the X-Trap to another and better system security !!!
    2. Start the automatic banning cheaters, or reporting from the game :D
  • Dextreme wrote: »
    I just don't understand why this boat has so many holes? The holes continually get "patched", but it seems like its a constant battle plugging new holes.

    My kids never have to QQ on Webkinz...maybe X-trap should look into their security model. lol ;)

    Fundamentally the problem is that cheats are designed to bypass anti-cheat clients, so updates are based on a reverse engineered process which is a never ending cycle.
  • P_Bruner wrote: »
    1. Change the X-Trap to another and better system security !!!
    2. Start the automatic banning cheaters, or reporting from the game :D
    X-Trap is doing it's job perfectly fine and the autoban is doing some damage to the hackers (if they are using their mains).
  • killshot44 wrote: »
    as most of u know the auto ban system z8 uses is a complete joke there is only 1 solution to the hacker problem that will work. z8 needs to start banning the hacks mac address as this seems to be the only thing that will keep theselosers off the game, permanently !! I KNOW U PEOPLE KNOW THIS.........AND YET IT STILL SEEMS LIKE THE PROBLEM IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE........THIS GAME IS LOSING GOOD HONEST PLAYERS AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF THIS SERIOUS PROBLEM

    not to be a jerk but dont QQ we know about the hack probs and the people at X-trap are trying
    Tinamou1 wrote: »
    they could just ban all brazillians. that would in turn ban a lot of hackers, laggers, QQ'ers, in general, people who have no clue how to play the game, so get an m12 and hold down left click while pressing w and get multi-kills. either that or they figure people like me with just a 2 kdr "hack" and thereby "justify" their use of hacks.....(even though we all know it's just cuz they have no skill and HAVE to hack to go positive)

    Bad idea z8 would lose to manny people (ZP Br's- Legit Br's)

    Well bro, they aren't trying that hard... I mean this game is nothing but a profitable business to Z8. Just spend 5k more to XTrap to work MORE. Anyway, you know that it isn't that way you support...


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  • Well bro, they aren't trying that hard... I mean this game is nothing but a profitable business to Z8. Just spend 5k more to XTrap to work MORE. Anyway, you know that it isn't that way you support...
    You know, people keep bring up the money issue. It's as if they don't expect a company to be in business to make a profit. Of course Z8 is driven by the necessity of making money. However, they are in the position of having information you do not concerning their sources of income and their accounts payable. I laugh when you jokers make all sorts of wild accusations about both and then others chime in about how penurious Z8 is, and that if they lost the 1% of the players that actually cheat they'd lose almost their entire revenue stream. It is easy to be sitting there making snap judgements about how much a company should spend on things in order to make you feel important.
  • P_Bruner wrote: »
    1. Change the X-Trap to another and better system security !!!
    2. Start the automatic banning cheaters, or reporting from the game :D

    You mad? that you just WASTED 20 secs of your life?
  • Well..it's true about less and less honest players. I saw this guy with 76 ping shooting through the walls in GM and he was 2nd LT =/. I have the replay saved too
  • 1st prob is the the anti cheat is on client side needs to be server side this get rid of bypass on client .They have nothing to haq because they can't see it.
    Ip ban as in in the 1st 3 octets
    Next Mac address Ban followed by the hardware id
    guess what hardware id is a little harder to mess with