Abortion?
Comments
-
that's like saying removing a seed is not killing a plant or destroying a sprout, because it's not yet a tree is alright, it goes for the same thing its a sprout or seed that's been planted and you're basically killing it
when do abortion all you are killing is a bunch of developing CELLS, its not a fully developed organism, its not a human being, therefore its not murder -
when do abortion all you are killing is a bunch of developing CELLS, its not a fully developed organism, its not a human being, therefore its not murder
what are humans made out of genius? cells. what difference does it make? just because it's on the first stage of a human developing into a full grown human. your logic says it's okay to kill something just because it's not fully developed and doesn't have the title of a fully developed creature. -
what are humans made out of genius? cells. what difference does it make? just because it's on the first stage of a human developing into a full grown human. your logic says it's okay to kill something just because it's not fully developed and doesn't have the title of a fully developed creature.
Spe.rm is one of the first stages of a human, and it contains human DNA. Does that mean I've committed 100.000.000.000 murders? -
No, you're removing its option to become a plant. You're not killing the plant. Its not a plant yet.that's like saying removing a seed is not killing a plant or destroying a sprout, because it's not yet a tree is alright, it goes for the same thing its a sprout or seed that's been planted and you're basically killing it -
No, you're removing its option to become a plant. You're not killing the plant. Its not a plant yet.
no it's a stage 1 of plant as soon as it germinates you are just killing it at it's first stage you're removing the option for it to become a fully developed plant -
MegalodonSW wrote: »Spe.rm is one of the first stages of a human, and it contains human DNA. Does that mean I've committed 100.000.000.000 murders?
have you heard of the explosive tannerite? the government can't ban it because it is nothing on it's own, only when it's combined with zinc it is considered an explosive, same goes for spe.rm and egg -
what are humans made out of genius? cells. what difference does it make? just because it's on the first stage of a human developing into a full grown human. your logic says it's okay to kill something just because it's not fully developed and doesn't have the title of a fully developed creature.
everything is made out of cells smartass, also has megalodon said sp.erm contains DNA therefore how many murders have you commited lol
my logic says its ok to, not kill, but stop mere cells from reaching an organism, stoping them from gaining notion of time and space and an hability to think, destroying an embryo is not murder, killing a fetus on the other hand, may be considered murder because a fetus is a HUMAN -
-
-
Atoms is the first stage. Lets shut down the power plants, there are kids in there!no it's a stage 1 of plant as soon as it germinates you are just killing it at it's first stage you're removing the option for it to become a fully developed plant
Its ridiculous, obviously.
Its not a human, its a fetus. Before that, an embryo. It IS life, but so is everything.
Deciding where that line goes is granted a difficult task. But to call it a human because it crawled inside an egg is cutting it rather sh0rt. -
MegalodonSW wrote: »Why?
We finally got an interesting topic in off-topic that's not about surveys or someone liking Viki. O.o
true!Atoms is the first stage. Lets shut down the power plants, there are kids in there!
Its ridiculous, obviously.
Its not a human, its a fetus. Before that, an embryo. It IS life, but so is everything.
Deciding where that line goes is granted a difficult task. But to call it a human because it crawled inside an egg is cutting it rather sh0rt.
im starting to like you alot
stalker boots on
now people what dot said here is as simple as the explenation gets -
everything is made out of cells smartass, also has megalodon said sp.erm contains DNA therefore how many murders have you commited lol
my logic says its ok to, not kill, but stop mere cells from reaching an organism, stoping them from gaining notion of time and space and an hability to think, destroying an embryo is not murder, killing a fetus on the other hand, may be considered murder because a fetus is a HUMAN
the cells are already there, they just started on stage 1 to becoming a full developed human, human is just a name scientist give to us, but does it really describe what we are? no, should we always believe in what science presents to us? look at the people 100 years ago, how they treated illness, amputation, leeches etc. and they thought that was the most innovative science available to them, and we think the same way about our science now, but when 100 years pass people will look at us if we're still here and say what idiots we were doing what we did and believing in what we found, just because science doesn't deem it a human doesn't mean it's right, science has always been wrong, sure it saves lives, but everything we need on this earth is on the surface to save lives, we wouldn't have any of these diseases we have today if it weren't for science, or the violence with weapons, you have to have an open mind to things and ask your self questions, is this really right just because some man in a white lab suit with phd from harvard says it is? what makes him smarter than me, because he was taught by other scientist with phds? and they were taught by them to, and so on? it's just a cycle, you can't just believe something because it's written by a scientist, Hey if you want here it is, from the chri.stian version of science or just common sense (which isn't so common anymore), life begins at conception which is within 24 hours of spe.rm+egg therefore an abortion is a murder, murder = the taking of a life
there you have it sorry for the wall of text,run ons, my job is done here believe what you want to believe -
Atoms is the first stage. Lets shut down the power plants, there are kids in there!
Its ridiculous, obviously.
Its not a human, its a fetus. Before that, an embryo. It IS life, but so is everything.
Deciding where that line goes is granted a difficult task. But to call it a human because it crawled inside an egg is cutting it rather sh0rt.
you sound pretty ignorant right now, in order for a life to be created it has to have a egg+sper.m not just atoms, you are killing of the life of reaching the stage of a full developed plant, it doesn't go down to what sper.m is made of, where do you see that in the equation? -
the cells are already there, they just started on stage 1 to becoming a full developed human, human is just a name scientist give to us, but does it really describe what we are? no, should we always believe in what science presents to us? look at the people 100 years ago, how they treated illness, amputation, leeches etc. and they thought that was the most innovative science available to us them, and we think the same way about our science now, but when 100 years pass people will look at us if we're still here and say what idiots we were doing what we did and believing in what we found, just because science doesn't deem it a human doesn't mean it's right, science has always been wrong, sure it saves lives, but everything we need on this earth is on the surface to save lives, we wouldn't have any of these diseases we have today if it weren't for science, or the violence with weapons, you have to have an open mind to things and ask your self questions, is this really right just because some man in a white lab suit with phd from harvard says it is? what makes him smarter than me, because he was taught by other scientist with phds? and they were taught by them to, and so on? it's just a cycle, you can't just believe something because it's written by a scientist, Hey if you want here it is, from the chri.stian version of science or just common sense (which isn't so common anymore), life begins at conception which is within 24 hours of spe.rm+egg therefore an abortion is a murder, murder = the taking of a life
there you have it sorry for the wall of text,run ons, my job is done here believe what you want to believe
So diseases is made by crazy scientists that want to make humans extinct!? I always thought it was a way for nature to thin out population to stop overpopulation and keep the balance to save as many lives as possible. How wrong I've been! -
you sound pretty ignorant right now, in order for a life to be created it has to have a egg+sper.m not just atoms, you are killing of the life of reaching the stage of a full developed plant, it doesn't go down to what sper.m is made of, where do you see that in the equation?
So... an embryo is a life because it contains human DNA and human cells? So does sperm. -
MegalodonSW wrote: »So diseases is made by crazy scientists that want to make humans extinct!? I always thought it was a way for nature to thin out population to stop overpopulation and keep the balance to save as many lives as possible. How wrong I've been!
a way of nature to thin out lives? animals didn't die from disease until they came into contact with humans, and it's currently happening in areas all over the world, nature's way of killing us is not disease, we started the mess, not nature -
I'd like to point something out.
http://www.isteve.com/abortion.htm
Levitt, of Chicago, (one of the most respected colleges in the U.S.) had pointed out that the legalization of abortion during Roe vs. Wade had cut the amount of crimes by over half.
Meaning, that less crimes are being committed, due to abortion.
I think it was a very compelling argument.
Now, I do think that I consider myself pro-life, however, I am only pro-life to cut the government spending.
I am 100% in choice. The WOMEN should have the choice. It is women, that we are alive on this very planet.
This has been tugging me back and forth.
Please, carry on. -
MegalodonSW wrote: »So... an embryo is a life because it contains human DNA and human cells? So does sperm.
no it's a life because a life requires an egg+sper.m not just dna, a sper.m isn't a life nor is an egg or dna or cell. until an egg+sper.m is combined conception begins which is a life, i know it's difficult math -
the cells are already there, they just started on stage 1 to becoming a full developed human, human is just a name scientist give to us, but does it really describe what we are? no, should we always believe in what science presents to us? look at the people 100 years ago, how they treated illness, amputation, leeches etc. and they thought that was the most innovative science available to us them, and we think the same way about our science now, but when 100 years pass people will look at us if we're still here and say what idiots we were doing what we did and believing in what we found, just because science doesn't deem it a human doesn't mean it's right, science has always been wrong, sure it saves lives, but everything we need on this earth is on the surface to save lives, we wouldn't have any of these diseases we have today if it weren't for science, or the violence with weapons, you have to have an open mind to things and ask your self questions, is this really right just because some man in a white lab suit with phd from harvard says it is? what makes him smarter than me, because he was taught by other scientist with phds? and they were taught by them to, and so on? it's just a cycle, you can't just believe something because it's written by a scientist, Hey if you want here it is, from the chri.stian version of science or just common sense (which isn't so common anymore), life begins at conception which is within 24 hours of spe.rm+egg therefore an abortion is a murder, murder = the taking of a life
there you have it sorry for the wall of text,run ons, my job is done here believe what you want to believe
from what i know from what science proved( and yes science has been wrong many times, but still it has done better than religion in anytime, science is the best way we have to explain things) an embryo is not human, if its not human it cant be considered murder, murder is the act of killing a human by another human, embryos are life thats is true, but so are plants and animals and you kill them for fun, hunting for sports, smashing insects, if life is so precious to you and to "god" and god created all living beings, then why do you religious foolks only care about human lifes? abortion helps, abortions is needed under certain circunstances, abortions has allways existed and it will keep existing until we find a better way, and its not because god says that life an embryo is human and killing is a sin that abortion will stop, imo the world would be better of without religion, because religion only brings lack of reason, this is the 21st century, more than half of what religion states has been proven wrong and smart people know that, this aint the 10th century where praying is the answer for all, while there is a god and a devil to blaim people will never claim responsability, but this is not a discussion about religion so lets forget this, i have stated my point -
a way of nature to thin out lives? animals didn't die from disease until they came into contact with humans, and it's currently happening in areas all over the world, nature's way of killing us is not disease, we started the mess, not nature
They died of disease way before the humans existed. Nature started diseases, you know how many people died in the black death? It was because of over-population during the massive population increase during the middle age. And please don't tell me that science created diseases in the 14th century. -
-
-
a way of nature to thin out lives? animals didn't die from disease until they came into contact with humans, and it's currently happening in areas all over the world, nature's way of killing us is not disease, we started the mess, not nature
what? thats the stupidest thing i ever heard my god, so when caveman existed there was no science therefore there were no deseases? and before man there where no virus? time to go back to school boy, virus and bacteria where the first creatures to appear in the planet -
aMoistmuffin wrote: »Like Fallout said, the indians lived here with only minor illnesses, until Europeans traveled and spread smallpox and other diseases and wiped out the populations.
that happened because they're organism where not adapted to the same enviornment has europeans
![[dot]](https://forum.z8games.com/uploads/customavatars/27/navatar_2942827.gif){kind=avatar}
I love you! 
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- Z8Games
- Off-Topic - Go To Game OT Forums
- 1 Z8 Forum Discussion & Suggestions
- 16 Z8Games Announcements
- Rules & Conduct
- 5.2K CrossFire
- 951 CrossFire Announcements
- 942 Previous Announcements
- 2 Previous Patch Notes
- 1.4K Community
- 122 Modes
- 600 Suggestions
- 85 Clan Discussion and Recruitment
- 274 CF Competitive Forum
- 19 CFCL
- 26 Looking for a Team?
- 703 CrossFire Support
- 52 Suggestion
- 116 Bugs
- 29 CrossFire Guides
- 166 Technical Issues
- 47 CrossFire Off Topic