Why do SL users...?

Get the stick for using the gun when all the variants of M4A1 (not the normal) are just as easy to use and some are even more noob than SL in terms of use like the Custom and its variants. I understand that M12s is a pure noob cannon so its fair it gets the stick but SL and M4A1 variants fall in the same category so why just SL?

@ QQers: I don't use Scar Light at all (stopped using it agessss ago), I use Custom now because its easier to use imo so If you are gonna cry about me wanting to use SL than please STFU...

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  • It actually takes skill to use the M4 variants.
  • its called a noob gun because of its power and accuracy all in one makes it much easier to use than the m4s. I myself am like you tho i dont mind people using the SSL i just hate m12s noobs... i really hope they nerf that gun!
  • VeX_xeD wrote: »
    It actually takes skill to use the M4 variants.

    same amount of skill as it takes to use SL though...
  • k, so you switch from 1 scrub gun to another. gratz!

    btw, you are dead wrong. It takes skill to get to a competitive level with M4 ( not just spraying around the map vs noobs in pubs :D )

    where as SL ... oh wait, it's not allowed in competitive games

    baii.
  • its called a noob gun because of its power and accuracy all in one makes it much easier to use than the m4s. I myself am like you tho i dont mind people using the SSL i just hate m12s noobs... i really hope they nerf that gun!

    same can be said about M4 variants though...high accuracy, power and can get away with a bit of spray and one shotting is a delight in M4s whereas SL not very suited at that.

    So overall, M4 variants excell at more areas than SL does don't you think?
  • The M4 Custom and all of its varients have reduced damage but quick rate of fire. They don't do a lot of damage but if you can aim, about 5-6 shots to the chest is a kill or 1 shot to the head. Plus it is very accurate and if you're skilled enough, you wont need to take but 2-3 shots.

    The SL is a combination of Power, accuracy, and a somewhat quick rate of fire. It can shoot as accurrate as the M4 custom with more power causing a kill with body shots only to happen in about 3-4 shots.

    The M12, combination of power, accuracy, quick rate of fire, and it has 40 bullets in a clip. Talk about over kill? It being a SMG of couse makes it have more than a rifle in ammo, but it shouldn't be more accurate than one. SMG's are meant for close range combat not from across the map spraying for kills.
  • Werlll wrote: »
    Get the stick for using the gun when all the variants of M4A1 (not the normal) are just as easy to use and some are even more noob than SL in terms of use like the Custom and its variants. I understand that M12s is a pure noob cannon so its fair it gets the stick but SL and M4A1 variants fall in the same category so why just SL?

    Are you kidding me? M4 variants actually take skills to use ?? Aside from the regular M4, have you tried the Adv, Silver ? You can't spray with those guns ...
  • Are you kidding me? M4 variants actually take skills to use ?? Aside from the regular M4, have you tried the Adv, Silver ? You can't spray with those guns ...

    It doesn't though, and yes I have used and own a M4A1 silver and find that I perform same with that and SL with minimal change of style thats what my thread is based on...
  • The M4 silver has very low damage due to it having a silencer making the SL more powerful than the M4 Silver which causes a major difference in "getting the kill or not".
  • Dark Beast wrote: »
    The M4 silver has very low damage due to it having a silencer making the SL more powerful than the M4 Silver which causes a major difference in "getting the kill or not".

    Not true. The difference in getting the kill or not is in the hands of the user. Your reference makes no sense, that is like comparing an AK47 user to an M4 user. The AK47 user doesn't always win.
  • Werlll wrote: »
    It doesn't though, and yes I have used and own a M4A1 silver and find that I perform same with that and SL with minimal change of style thats what my thread is based on...
    It might be somewhat easier. Its a ZP/BP gun what do you expect? They're bound to have some perks right?

    and.. Scar Light is way easier to use than the M4 variants.. thats a given.
  • I'll just paste what I've said to Kris on xfire. We were talking about this thread

    [16:00] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: meh... I can't use the SL whatsoever
    [16:00] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: But I can use the M4 in my sleep
    [16:00] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: same with Neof... its all preference
    [16:00] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: "[10:57] neof [oL]: and I can't master the SL for some reason.."
    [16:01] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: I believe the M4 is the easiest, not the SL
    [16:01] [MOD]Polleus[oL]: but that's my opinion
    [16:02] SYNR | howsthat: that's only correct if you base it off players like you or neof
    [16:02] SYNR | howsthat: give a scarlight to any terrible pubstar and you've got it guaranteed that he/she will start fragging like there's no tomorrow
    [16:03] SYNR | howsthat: give him/her M4 and he/she will have to burst M4 in close range
    [16:05] SYNR | howsthat: SL has barely any spray pattern at all, no recoil and way, WAY too much power

    The accuracy, ROF, recoil (actually no recoil), spray pattern - all of it combined makes the gun the easiest rifle to use in this game. Just because you perform with M4 as well as with SL, does NOT mean M4 is just as easy as Scar Light.... lol. I'm surprised you even think that way.
  • I agree..
    Just because you perform the same with the M4A1 doesn't mean everyone does.

    if you got the skills then, you perform good with every gun right?
    I own most of the M4 variants and AK variants along with the Scar Light. Believe me Scar Light is way easier to use, but I gotta challenge myself a bit right? (part of the fun) Now i do equally good with the M4 & AK variants :)

    Scar Light / M12s is really for players with no skills and all they do is spray and pray.
  • all i can say is. i was in a match yesterday with a lagging scar lighter. he was 36-9 when he switched to his m4, and then he didn't get a kill and died the next 5 rounds.
  • Werlll wrote: »
    same can be said about M4 variants though...high accuracy, power and can get away with a bit of spray and one shotting is a delight in M4s whereas SL not very suited at that.

    So overall, M4 variants excell at more areas than SL does don't you think?

    You don't need to 1 shot with a scar light, 3-4 shots at mid range will hit exactly on the crosshair, enough for an easy headshot or chest kill.The m4 user, on the other hand, has a bit of recoil to think about it, and will most likely be aiming at your head.
  • M4's do take skill to use but if you have the skill then they are better than the SL.

    I can make shots with my stock GP M4 that I cannot make with a SL.
  • zbots2 wrote: »
    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=133879

    You're a "noob" if you use certain weapons/items
    That's not really what this thread is about.
  • Werlll wrote: »
    It doesn't though, and yes I have used and own a M4A1 silver and find that I perform same with that and SL with minimal change of style thats what my thread is based on...

    Its somewhat easy to use but the SL, to most people, is easier. It has no spread and it's easy as #$%! to control.

    Spraying at long range, most of the time, won't work for you with the M4 unless you can control the spray perfectly. But with the SL... :D

    Not saying its OP. I dont use it..just my opinion.

    And..I cant even master it either...
  • Werlll wrote: »
    same amount of skill as it takes to use SL though...

    Its not a matter of skill that it takes to use a gun.
    Its because the weopons stats are too good.
    For example its power, accuracy and the recoil. The M4a1 isnt close to that.

    I can use the uzi and kill you if you had the scar L because im more skilled.
    But that gun helps noobs get easy kills. Plus farmers. I see high ranked people use m12s and scar L alot because they farm and have no skill. even so they finish with a score of 15-9.
  • Werlll wrote: »
    same amount of skill as it takes to use SL though...

    ah....ah......ahahahahaha


    you're an idiot, SL needs no skill at all to be used, if you can't get atleast a 2.0KD everygame with the SL then you suck balls, M4 needs skill to be used
  • BlindAxE wrote: »
    Its not a matter of skill that it takes to use a gun.
    Its because the weopons stats are too good.
    For example its power, accuracy and the recoil. The M4a1 isnt close to that.

    I can use the uzi and kill you if you had the scar L because im more skilled.
    But that gun helps noobs get easy kills. Plus farmers. I see high ranked people use m12s and scar L alot because they farm and have no skill. even so they finish with a score of 15-9.

    Not a bad explanation.

    Of course, having skill and farming have nothing do to with one another. Plenty of people have skill and also farm. Plenty of people just suck regardless of if they farm or not.
  • I have used both M4 has a different spray pattern that is a lot harder to controll. They kind of go up at an angle then move side to side. Scar light spray is almost like an ak and goes straight up to your head. It also has a decent accuracy at long range, this is what makes it better, on top of that more power.
  • People shouldnt complain about it especially when they got something like scope ak or custom m4 along with any zp weapon.

    It's a great gp weapon dont hate on it just because you get owned by it when that person cant buy what you got.
  • mxr229 wrote: »
    Not a bad explanation.

    Of course, having skill and farming have nothing do to with one another. Plenty of people have skill and also farm. Plenty of people just suck regardless of if they farm or not.

    True but most high ranked farmers go ingame with a m12s or scar. There are alos plenty of skilled farmers, in that you are correct.
  • BlindAxE wrote: »
    True but most high ranked farmers go ingame with a m12s or scar. There are alos plenty of skilled farmers, in that you are correct.

    True, and it's always sad to see someone with a Major+ ranked account shooting an m12s and still not able to make kills. :(
  • M4 variants are relatively easy to use as a beginner, but to really deliver some kills you have to take some other factors.

    Scar Light isn't really that good anymore.

    I don't know about the M12s -_-
  • CptCrusie wrote: »
    Didn't they nerf the SL?

    idk man i cant even use a SL even when i tried to use it i cant aim with it at all the only time i get kills is when i spray
  • CptCrusie wrote: »
    Didn't they nerf the SL?

    They didn't nerf it enough... It's still considered a "Noob cannon".