Unkickable
How about this to remedy the rampant kick vote abuse, at-least for the older most dedicated and fair players to stop them quitting and playing snakes and ladders.
Short version for the barely literate kids that can't read anything longer than a few sentences:
Requirements to enroll:
A program in which you can enroll after being registered for a year on CF and only if you have remained ban free (including temp bans for hacking/glitching) during that period.
Benefits of the program:
You get a "Purity" badge in certain locations of CF just like the current badges, this means you enrolled in the program and met the requirements above and it means your hack free.
And once you have the "Purity" badge you become unkickable (since you play fair).
Yeahh "Purity" badge lol
Short version for the barely literate kids that can't read anything longer than a few sentences:
Requirements to enroll:
A program in which you can enroll after being registered for a year on CF and only if you have remained ban free (including temp bans for hacking/glitching) during that period.
Benefits of the program:
You get a "Purity" badge in certain locations of CF just like the current badges, this means you enrolled in the program and met the requirements above and it means your hack free.
And once you have the "Purity" badge you become unkickable (since you play fair).
Yeahh "Purity" badge lol
Comments
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People are going to take advantage of that somehow. And how can you tell if they are going to let you get a purity badge? Alot of thought will have to go into the requirements and then the great players who used to hack (but don't now) will never get to play unless they have a badge..
also the "kids" are just gonna kick everyone who doesn't have a purity badge cause they all seem to have a single goal to kick everyone who beats them. -
aimoperative wrote: »People are going to take advantage of that somehow.
How it's pretty tough to get one.
1) One Year registered.
2) You have to have been hack free for the whole period and can never hack.aimoperative wrote: »And how can you tell if they are going to let you get a purity badge?
1) One Year registered.
2) You have to have been hack free for the whole period and can never hack.aimoperative wrote: »Alot of thought will have to go into the requirements and then the great players who used to hack (but don't now) will never get to play unless they have a badge..
If they hacked that's there problem, this is for people that have never hacked. And why would you want to give it to ex hackers in the first place?.aimoperative wrote: »also the "kids" are just gonna kick everyone who doesn't have a purity badge cause they all seem to have a single goal to kick everyone who beats them.
They do that now, at least proven honest and dedicated players cannot be kicked. -
their never going to implement that becaus multiple people have made new accounts so even if someone is banned, they can just make a new one of have multiple accounts. Plus people will take advantage of that, to never be kicked because z8 "trust" you. ur a random person somewhere in the world playing a gam allong with thousands of other people, their can be no trust. good intentions but bad idea. I was thinkin allong about a solution for the same problem but yours insnt the right solution
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As far as I know, other versions have kick immunity. If dedicated players want kick immunity then they have to pay for it. If anyone is stupid enough to abuse it (hack with kick immunity) he should have his account suspend for good and reports of players with kick immunity should be given priority.
That's a practical solution if you ask me.
Apart from that, why should ZP buyers get kicked for playing good as if they never gave nothing to the company? It doesn't make sense to me.
I still think this is the best solution ever:DrunkEntrop wrote: »why not a server with no vote kick? Especially a higher level one so that the hackers that are there are banned and it'll take them forever to come back.
I still think the tiered server or channel approach is a good idea. That was the hackers will be weeded out as the tiers go up and up. And no one really gives a **** what ****ing noobs complain about anyways. If you don't take the time to level up the tiers then the hackers can kill you until you quit for all I give a ****.
note: higher level server is 2nd lieutenant (or at least Master Sargent) and up and not SFC-1 just as some of you WHO BARELY PLAY THIS GAME might think.
That should separate the noobs from the real players for good.
What this game needs is a segregation in the community. Why should North American players get abused and harassed all the time by high pinged Brazilians? A ping limiter would do the job to stop this problem.
Haven't other versions implemented a ping limiter?
Hasn't CF JP banned all foreign IPs? That's how far they went. -
As far as I know, other versions have kick immunity. If dedicated players want kick immunity then they have to pay for it. If anyone is stupid enough to abuse it (hack with kick immunity) he should have his account suspend for good and reports of players with kick immunity should be given priority.
That's a practical solution if you ask me.
Apart from that, why should ZP buyers get kicked for playing good as if they never gave nothing to the company? It doesn't make sense to me.
I still think this is the best solution ever:
note: higher level server is 2nd lieutenant (or at least Master Sargent) and up and not SFC-1 just as some of you WHO BARELY PLAY THIS GAME might think.
That should separate the noobs from the real players for good.
What this game needs is a segregation in the community. Why should North American players get abused and harassed all the time by high pinged Brazilians? A ping limiter would do the job to stop this problem.
Haven't other versions implemented a ping limiter?
Hasn't CF JP banned all foreign IPs? That's how far they went.
Z8 said no to the ping limited thing and also high ranks call ha.cks just as much as low ranks, hell i just played in a game with a crying gold star.
anyways...
good idea, but am guessing we wont see something like this or maybe anything done to the kick vote system. i like the game but personally (judging from the amount of ZP I've poured into my account), playing good will get you kicked and playing bad will to, so your only other option is not play at all and find something else -
their never going to implement that becaus multiple people have made new accounts so even if someone is banned, they can just make a new one of have multiple accounts. Plus people will take advantage of that, to never be kicked because z8 "trust" you. ur a random person somewhere in the world playing a gam allong with thousands of other people, their can be no trust. good intentions but bad idea. I was thinkin allong about a solution for the same problem but yours insnt the right solution
This forum and the people that play CF make me lol, they can barely read, reason or even think 99% of the time, this above is a prime example.
I already said "Short version for the barely literate kids that can't read anything longer than a few sentences", but still they persist.
Lets drill it into your head an account has to be registered for a year and has to have no strikes on it ever, is that hard to comprehend? So your "new accounts bs" is invalid, "taking advantage bs" is invalid, "trust argument bs" is invalid, in fact everything you wrote is invalid;)[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »That was the best you could come up with?
Chopping quotes up isn't really being honest is it? Because it's not just being registered for a year.
It's:
Requirements to enroll:
"A program in which you can enroll after being registered for a year on CF and only if you have remained ban free (including temp bans for hacking/glitching) during that period. (obviously an active account as well)" -
KingstarKB wrote: »^.^ I like the Idea... +1
Even though I think it should be 1.5~2.5 years+. :eek:
I have been registered on CF since Feb 2010 and that seems like a lifetime, even I wouldn't meet the requirements of what I suggested, that's how restrictive it is already:p
1.5 maybe but for 2.5 I'd have to kill you:( -
UKDissident wrote: »TChopping quotes up isn't really being honest is it? Because it's not just being registered for a year.
It's:
Requirements to enroll:
"A program in which you can enroll after being registered for a year on CF and only if you have remained ban free (including temp bans for hacking/glitching) during that period. (obviously an active account as well)"
Oh I read that bit.. I found that part unbelievably useless so I removed it.
My point still stands. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Oh I read that bit.. I found that part unbelievably useless so I removed it.
My point still stands.
Being hack free for a year is useless? Is that why z8 don't bother dealing with reports?
You actually had a point? What was that that you didn't like the idea? because you have not said anything of value as of yet.
Maybe the staff of z8 should come up with the suggestions of how to improve it since its their mess to fix. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Oh I read that bit.. I found that part unbelievably useless so I removed it.
My point still stands.
I fit the "Requirements to enroll" i was in the beta and have not hack.ed!
I had to stop playing for 8 months because it got so bad that i was getting kicked for entering a room and or as soon as I joined. I was a plague in TDM since thats what i mostly play. in the beta i could spray an m60 from one spawn to another spawn and get headshots. just because i know the gun's spray patteren and i am used harder Recoil I was getting kicked 24/7 very few matchs i was able to join.
i ended up signing up for a program to help me get a job because of it. now I have a full time job doing 3rd shift security! I guess i should be thanking them in a wierd way.
the point is that there are people like me who have played in the beta and seen a LOT of the hack.s. that some of you were not even playing CF at that point. I rem weapon hack.s, chams, the whole 9 yards! that rapid fire awm was brutal... *shivers* AWM MG = almost un-playable.
and people are QQn about this fly hack/ walk thru walls hack. yes, you cant hit them but when u had a AWM MG with auto-aim...yeah..
what im trying to say is that, i have to say. we (the community) have no proof, other than z8games word that action is being taken. when the ban list was there my mind was at ease. I could point to it and show my buddys saying they fight hack.ers. I don't have that option. let alone giving myself piece of mind, because that was solid proof. z8's word is not.
z8 said we were not getting the gatling gun and look! I own a gatling gun!(http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=3220389) (and yes i still have 313 days left on my m4a1 xmas so stop asking me in game already...)
If you want i would be willing to take some of my monday off to help look at replays!
one of the ways z8 showed that action was being taken was the ban list.
the hack reports are not replied to, nothing is said to the person who reported them to even say action has been taken or if there was nothing wrong.
if you publicy "hang" them so to speak you will show there is something being done as well as the fact that z8 is trying and showing the fruits of their labor of watching 200 million hours of replays.
and IP bans do not work for most, since most people just call up there isp or whatever and change it and make a new account and they are back in a short time! what is needed is somekind of windows key ban or something that cant be copyed or changed for every individual computer. IP bans will work somewhat but people who have not hack.ed might get that IP if someone else gets it. so it seems that IP bans ban hack.ers and make colateral damage.
I am no expert by anymeans! I just want to help and give everyone who plays CF piece of mind one way or another.
P.S. many games that have little, none, and or even a LOT of hack.ers most of the time have a public banlist or a wall of shame in some area.
also, im not kidding about taking some time out of my day off to watch replays! just getting hack.ers out of the game or even frustrating them for a little while is all worth it to me. they make us mad we make them mad with the ban hammer =D
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