The Community: Making a difference

Before I get started, if you are of the opinion that this community can not get better, you might as well hit the back button. I would be wasting your time. For those of you who do not care to read the whole thing, don't bother starting to read it. This will be some of my thoughts for this community because I know this community can get better and will get better. Make fun of me all you want, taking a F2P game/community as serious as I do. If you can't get past your ignorance and see that this game has potential some day, then you truly are blind. I sincerely believe that the community makes the game, not the other way around. Now that we have formalities out of the way, let's get started.

Nobody can do everything, but everyone can do something.

Go the extra mile. It's never crowded.

As I browse through these forums, I certainly can not argue with many points made about Crossfire's technical difficulties, cheating problems, latency issues, etc. I agree that these issues should be fixed which in result would make the game 100 times better. However, that is only half of the battle.

The community, with all the players in it, could contribute to help make the game a little more tolerable. I have seen these "Forumer Games" showing up every now and then, that is a good start. I have also seen recent threads such as Aero's "Common Courtesy" that outlines how you can show some courtesy in communicating with your fellow forumers. I have started a movement, if you will, on educating those who are ignorant in blaming Z8Games for many of the game's faults, to show that blame has been misplaced.

My point on this topic is, slowly but surely I can see a select few people coming out and actually attempting to help this community get better. The staff (GM's and Moderators) can only do so much, and we, as a community, can only do so much. We have to help each other, instead of fighting constantly. Imagine if there were even 10 or 20 more people who wanted to help make things better? By making things better, I am referring to anything that is considered positive outreach and contribution. Whether it is helping to encourage others to post their own ideas or holding mini-events such as these forumer rooms, etc. Helping can be considered, in this case, anything other than doing nothing and watching this community get worse.

A good example has twice the value of good advice.

So, how can we start to change this community you ask? By setting good examples for others to follow. How can you ask someone to change their ways if you yourself are doing the same thing they are? In this case, adhering to the rules laid out in plain sight. They are all there for everyone to read, yet I am willing to bet 3 out of 5 people have never read all of them. Recently, I have seen some arguments over Moderator actions. I can 100% say that if the rules had been read, those users might have understood what certain actions were taken. I have not seen any Moderator step out of the scope of their authority.

Setting an example will most surely cause others to follow in those footsteps. Actively posting in a mature, non-offensive manner than will help the users more than it will hurt them. Knowing when to be serious with your comments and when to be funny. To a new-comer, this community can be quite the animal. I, myself, was welcomed by Bruce and a few others. I was invited in-game to learn the ropes as well as out of game to learn the basics of this community. Now, if only more people could do that, we might have a less bitter group of members. Remember, treat others as you want to be treated. You treat people like crap, you'll get treated like crap. Very simple.

Community cannot for long feed on itself; it can only flourish with the coming of others from beyond, their unknown and undiscovered brothers.

We need to grow. Sure you can blame everything on the game being bad, that is your right. But as a community, we could grow even with all the faults and negatives that come with it. This community has grown sour, just sitting and waiting for Z8Games/G4Box/SmileGate to do something about it all. Sooner or later, you must all realize that change isn't going to come quickly. This community could be doing a lot more to better itself, most importantly attitude. Make the best of the game, regardless of how crappy the issues are. You obviously still enjoy the game a little bit, you are still here playing it. Even after all the complaining and whining. Let's come together and make this community a little more enjoyable to everyone. Don't be afraid to share your ideas, your thoughts on how to make things better. Don't worry about what others are going to think.

The only wrong idea, is no idea
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Comments

  • Nice threads being made by you :P Almost make me wanna continue on my ultimate forumer's guide.
  • SirHi wrote: »
    Nice threads being made by you :P Almost make me wanna continue on my ultimate forumer's guide.

    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.

    You are incorrect. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.

    IDK, I don't mind if people change to help the forums. As long as they don't troll :|
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.
    You should've clicked the back button on your browser like the first paragraph told you to.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    You are incorrect. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    So when a new Mod Position comes, You wont apply?
  • Nice man, I love the way you make the threads so people can read and understand more about a community. Keep it up :)
  • I can only do so much. It's about you guys helping out as well. In response to the question about applying for Moderator, it's too early to tell. I might when the time comes around, however if you are suggesting I am doing this to get an upper hand when applications open up, you are severely mistaken. It is possible for someone to just want to help out a community.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    I can only do so much. It's about you guys helping out as well. In response to the question about applying for Moderator, it's too early to tell. I might when the time comes around, however if you are suggesting I am doing this to get an upper hand when applications open up, you are severely mistaken. It is possible for someone to just want to help out a community.

    You left it far too late. The community is awful, Full of Jealous 10 Yr olds.
    If you are just doing it cuz ur nice, Then good Luck, But i doubt you'll get far.
    About me Trolling: You should have just told us from the beginning who you are, You're clearly not new to this game few weeks ago. >.>
  • Seriously dude, I love all your threads.
    What sucks is there's only a few who wanna change the community. Its gonna be hard, and we need a lot more people.
  • Impressive detailing and points. The quotes were simple and effective. One point that was raised however is that this forum community is a small fraction of the population of CF. Yes, we could make this forum and community here saintly if we took the effort, but there's nothing saying the problems within CF itself will be fixed by our efforts.

    But it is a good start, and there's no telling what will happen if nothing gets done eh? Every little thing counts. Good luck to you, hopefully I can aid in those efforts.
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    You left it far too late. The community is awful, Full of Jealous 10 Yr olds.
    If you are just doing it cuz ur nice, Then good Luck, But i doubt you'll get far.
    About me Trolling: You should have just told us from the beginning who you are, You're clearly not new to this game few weeks ago. >.>

    I left what? I can't be new and want to help? For your information, this is not my first community. But again, you are entitled to your opinion.
    Kelathe wrote: »
    Impressive detailing and points. The quotes were simple and effective. One point that was raised however is that this forum community is a small fraction of the population of CF. Yes, we could make this forum and community here saintly if we took the effort, but there's nothing saying the problems within CF itself will be fixed by our efforts.

    But it is a good start, and there's no telling what will happen if nothing gets done eh? Every little thing counts. Good luck to you, hopefully I can aid in those efforts.

    To expand on that, maybe the community would represent a much larger amount if the community was desirable to more than just a small fraction. Thanks for the support. Let's see if we can do anything about it all.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    To expand on that, maybe the community would represent a much larger amount if the community was desirable to more than just a small fraction. Thanks for the support. Let's see if we can do anything about it all.

    Sadly the small fraction is generally the portion of UK/NA English speakers, which have become a minority. The only way this community of the forums could be a majority is if that transition of non-english speakers presented themselves to the forums. Since I think there is a great lack of vanilla players versus the others.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    Sadly the small fraction is generally the portion of UK/NA English speakers, which have become a minority. The only way this community of the forums could be a majority is if that transition of non-english speakers presented themselves to the forums. Since I think there is a great lack of vanilla players versus the others.

    Agreed. On the other hand, if the community is made to be more presentable, mature, and enjoyable, maybe more NA/UK/Other English speaking players would be drawn to this community/game versus others, hence my statements on needing to grow. Again, not much can be done about the issues in-game. But, ventures such as the "Forumers Rooms" and other private held rooms (Moderator hosted), small events, etc. can be hosted to help lighten that outlook, along with overall community improvement.
  • Polleus wrote: »
    Agreed. On the other hand, if the community is made to be more presentable, mature, and enjoyable, maybe more NA/UK/Other English speaking players would be drawn to this community/game versus others, hence my statements on needing to grow. Again, not much can be done about the issues in-game. But, ventures such as the "Forumers Rooms" and other private held rooms (Moderator hosted), small events, etc. can be hosted to help lighten that outlook, along with overall community improvement.

    You have a point sir. Mind you CF's advertisement is quite minimal, at least over here in Canada. I actually never seen Crossfire being promoted, only reason I found out was word-of-mouth from an online friend in the East. So drawing in others is a bit hard.

    But these community rooms, they have done a great deal. So much stress and annoying relieved. Never have to worry about kick votes or hackers. Overall generally enjoyable, perhaps I should take initiative and make sure such places stay active.

    Haha, just makes me kinda laugh a bit as I feel now we are pressed into a bubble just to maintain enjoyment.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    You have a point sir. Mind you CF's advertisement is quite minimal, at least over here in Canada. I actually never seen Crossfire being promoted, only reason I found out was word-of-mouth from an online friend in the East. So drawing in others is a bit hard.

    But these community rooms, they have done a great deal. So much stress and annoying relieved. Never have to worry about kick votes or hackers. Overall generally enjoyable, perhaps I should take initiative and make sure such places stay active.

    Haha, just makes me kinda laugh a bit as I feel now we are pressed into a bubble just to maintain enjoyment.

    As my points with more community involvement, let's say the numbers now (for Public games) are 10% Forumers rooms, 90% general public rooms. If that ratio could be changed, even 30% Forumers 70% Public, it might seem like less of a bubble. It's all about getting everyone to help out in one way or another, instead of everyone waiting around for someone else to do it.
  • I like the way you think.

    "Believe what you people want, but CF is doing just fine." <-I dont think so
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.

    Must be mistaken for STYX.
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    Anyway, I would like to see more ads and things for crossfire. Maybe a televised event on a gaming channel such as G4.

    I also heard of this game strictly through word of mouth, it is my first f2p, I was stuck on Warcraft 3 for many years. Now I don't even play it. It's my first gun game as well. I have a very small gaming horizon. Which is what drives me to help this community but I don't have much of an imagination or work ethic, so having somebody like Polleus giving a drive is a great idea.
  • Must be mistaken for STYX.
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    Anyway, I would like to see more ads and things for crossfire. Maybe a televised event on a gaming channel such as G4.

    I also heard of this game strictly through word of mouth, it is my first f2p, I was stuck on Warcraft 3 for many years. Now I don't even play it. It's my first gun game as well. I have a very small gaming horizon. Which is what drives me to help this community but I don't have much of an imagination or work ethic, so having somebody like Polleus giving a drive is a great idea.

    Yes his threads are good, But the community is always going to consist of 10 Yr olds, Because it is f2p. And 10 Yr olds bring QQing.. nothing you can do to change that.

    But GL I'll help by stop trolling Polleus.
  • I like the way you think.

    "Believe what you people want, but CF is doing just fine." <-I dont think so

    That quote could be interpreted in many different ways, its near impossible to actually tell Crossfire's status as a whole. We only know what appears to be sections of CF failing, but perhaps CF overall is doing fine even with these problems.

    No one can ignore the fact that CF has issues, but nor can you forget that they are fixing others too.
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.

    I 100% agree with you but it's still a good thread.
  • JustLogic wrote: »
    I 100% agree with you but it's still a good thread.

    Thank you for the support. However, as he was incorrect, you are as well. Why do I have to be an "old" member in order to want to help? I'm just someone who wants to help make things better. I have no secondary motives nor am I pushing to be a moderator. There are people out there that just want to help. I happen to be one of them. Please respect that? I didn't come here to start any arguments.
  • He's trying to help but you morons don't seem to give a rats ass about anything. How about trying being less negative and try being more positive.

    :)
  • itZxL wrote: »
    He's trying to help but you morons don't seem to give a rats ass about anything. How about trying being less negative and try being more positive.

    :)

    Much appreciated.
  • daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.
    Can you honestly stop posting? You're a fool, you know nothing.
    daKenzz wrote: »
    You left it far too late. The community is awful, Full of Jealous 10 Yr olds.
    If you are just doing it cuz ur nice, Then good Luck, But i doubt you'll get far.
    About me Trolling: You should have just told us from the beginning who you are, You're clearly not new to this game few weeks ago. >.>
    Get it in your head, YOU AREN'T TROLLING.
    And if you are, your trolling could be compared to Giggletron without a spop (lolol us3r)
    daKenzz wrote: »
    Yes his threads are good, But the community is always going to consist of 10 Yr olds, Because it is f2p. And 10 Yr olds bring QQing.. nothing you can do to change that.

    But GL I'll help by stop trolling Polleus.
    Why do you complain about 10 year olds when you, yourself are 11 years old?

    You are clearly a pre-teen if you still use the word "qq'ing".
    Even in p2p's there are pre-teens like you.
    Go play a game age appropriate for you.
    Such as My Little Pony.

    on topic: Polleus is an intelligent guy, he'll go somewhere (if there is any where to go) in this dead end game.

    Another useful thread.
  • Thanks for the support. I'm hoping this thread picks up a bit more. Maybe I should have titled it to something more eye-catching like, "Bust Video" and then "No just kidding", before my whole thread. Haha, lame jokes, I know.
  • slayaaa wrote: »
    And if you are, your trolling could be compared to Giggletron without a spop (lolol us3r)

    Hehe, I'm awesome.

    Anyway, at topic. I don't see anything wrong in making an effort to become a moderator, if it is Polleus desire. If a thread is well made and clears some points and/or gives some suggestions, what's wrong with it? Nothing.
    daKenzz wrote: »
    He's just trying to become a forum mod, He was probs a regular forum troll before.

    You, son, talk about 10 year olds? Humm, how old are you? Because that type of comment "He just wants to become a MOD" shows lack of maturity and an obvious fail troller.
  • Do not see the point of you wasting your time but GL with your goals....
  • I will treat the community just like it treats me. I just got kicked for getting and leading with the ace during a whole TDM Egypt game. Don't think I am going to think twice when I see a vote to kick an ace on the different team.