what are noob's weapons ?
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It will also ruin the gaming experience for the players with an intermediate skill level (for this game). This is a rant of an unskilled player, so I'm probably going to get trolled.kira545363 wrote: »Only if everyone listen to this...it would save me from a lot of headaches.
When you're a newb (new) or permanoob (some pubstars), you're happy to get a kill anyhow. Noobcannons, christmas colours, anything else you can get onto your screen.
When you're a pro (I'm classifying all regular scrimmers here), competent opponents don't use such methods (okay, christmas colours seems to be debatable with ScrimSpot's results), and you're better than the newbs who use such weapons.
The intermediate skill level (for this game, it's anyone who has a decent idea of aiming) can either continue with the "a kill is a kill" mentality (and hence be what I call the "permanoob"), or try to get kills on a more level playing field (the better pubstars). This crisis is why many butterbars will still run around with M12's - they decide to take the easier path. -
You're right, you shouldn't. G4Box did a terrible job balancing the weapons. What gets to me is that people like vey2 take it out on the players who use it. CF has like 3 good guns, and if you choose not to use them, you lose all your b-tching rights.
Every play cs? There are like 3 guns out of dozens that are any good, and everyone uses them. No one there complains because the game isn't chock full of retarts like CF is.
Amen.[MOD]Greycloak wrote: »I find it funny how people call me a noob if I use the Kriss, despite the fact that their score is negative. To me that would imply that the person complaining is, in fact, the noob.
Face it, there are good guns and there are bad guns. The kriss, m12s, thompson, etc are all good guns. Don't get all bent out of shape because you get killed by one.
I also find it amusing when I am called a noob when I kill someone or if I'm forced to camp due to low HP and I ambush someone. Who is the noob, the one who kills or the one who is killed? Too many complainers in this game.(btw I don't use any of the weapons people consider noob cannons except for kriss once in a while, and why should't I? I spent money to get it.) -
Personally, I use the Kriss because I've tested the M12s and sold it seeing how overpowered it is comparing to the regular M4A1. They just call me a noob because they're either...
1. I have the gun and they don't.
Or...
2. Complain about it and kick me like a little Brazilian.
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the peolpe everytime tell me "NOOB! PUT AWAY ThAT FKIN GUN!" if i play with my scar l, m12s, or m4 custom.
i think, like the first post too, every weapon has a secret. winnie to -.-. but m12s is to fast and to accurate for 32k gp and that rank!
i dont care about people telling me noob, i just block them.
but my favourite weapon is actually scar l and m4 custom -
If those guns are so good, buy them and use them. otherwise, you just like to complain.You're right, you shouldn't. G4Box did a terrible job balancing the weapons. What gets to me is that people like vey2 take it out on the players who use it. CF has like 3 good guns, and if you choose not to use them, you lose all your b-tching rights.
Every play cs? There are like 3 guns out of dozens that are any good, and everyone uses them. No one there complains because the game isn't chock full of retarts like CF is.
Man..i buy the m12 when it came out (as u can see in my signature) so i play with it for a time and i know of what i'm talking about..and sorry, i'm not complaining because i own every "noob gun" user so i got no problem with that..what i said was only an answer to the thread..then if u play with those gun and have a guilty conscience (as the maker of this thread) it's not my problem...GG -
If every gun has a secret, I'd like to see you equal your SL frags with a FAMAS.bulletproofguy wrote: »the peolpe everytime tell me "NOOB! PUT AWAY ThAT FKIN GUN!" if i play with my scar l, m12s, or m4 custom.
i think, like the first post too, every weapon has a secret. winnie to -.-. but m12s is to fast and to accurate for 32k gp and that rank!
i dont care about people telling me noob, i just block them.
but my favourite weapon is actually scar l and m4 custom -
bulletproofguy wrote: »the peolpe everytime tell me "NOOB! PUT AWAY ThAT FKIN GUN!" if i play with my scar l, m12s, or m4 custom.
i think, like the first post too, every weapon has a secret. winnie to -.-. but m12s is to fast and to accurate for 32k gp and that rank!
i dont care about people telling me noob, i just block them.
but my favourite weapon is actually scar l and m4 custom
Can u tell me please what is the secret of the ScarLight? -
I got FAMAS from crate, it's half dead and I still can own with it.
That would be most ZP guns like M4-C,AWM-camo,M4-Silver,AK/M4-Gold or whatever, since most of noobs I see ingame are high ranked SPOPs (srsly?)what are noob's weapons ?
(guess what, your ZP won't save your butt from getting killed by someone who's actually playing this game and not relying on money)
As for the rest of the noobs: from "that noobgun" to "this noobgun".
I'm considering here the noobs who think they're so pro and not idiots with so-called-noob guns.
For the latter: Yes, it takes less skill to use some guns, but if that player gets an 50/2 and if you fail to get a decent kdr with your pro-gun (or not-so-noobgun)(or noobgun-but-since-i'm-using-it-it's-not-a-noobgun-gun), then you really should stop blaming others for your own/your teams failure >_>
(certain people who are obviously depending on some weps to get a good kdr excluded. Notably ZP buyers) -
OK, so someone explain me this, why isn't AWM a noob gun? it takes the least skill to use than all snipers.noob weapons are what people consider take the least skill to use and those are the scar l and m12 as far as gp weapons are concerned -
OK, so someone explain me this, why isn't AWM a noob gun? it takes the least skill to use than all snipers.
I still do classify it as 'noob' as far as snipers go. The accuracy is higher, it takes a millisecond to calm, and it's a one hit kill pretty much anywhere above the groin.
The only thing that counters those great stats, even remotely, is the weight and lack of movement. -
What he said. Lol. The shovel is worse then the SL or M12s IMO.:Dwell I dont have a problem with most guns but the biggest noob weapon IMO is the shovel.
Not that I think anything is really "bad." Honestly, if it's put into a game and is the best, just use it and stop whinning about it.
If everyone is using it, then you shoul use it to. If you really actually have more skills then you should be able to own everyone else regardless IMO. -
BROOSEONERRR wrote: »The thing about CS is that you don't have to spend real money to get guns, and the fact that they don't add new guns bi-monthly helps also.
Anyway, the reason they have these "Lower skill weapons" (noob guns) in the game is the same reason that CoD had grenade launchers, claymores, and other stupid perks: They want the game accessable to ALL skill levels so people will keep playing.
1st, real money is NO excuse when it comes to skill levels and game balance. Second, COD franchise went downhill after the original COD. MW and MW2 are terrible noob games that feel more like WOW than an FPS. They cannot be compared to a leet game such as this.Imagine you're switching over to a new fps game. You go in there and get owned hard by people with a year+ of experience. Nobody likes getting owned. If there was a weapon that you could get that would make it easier for you to get kills and own people, I bet you would all pick it up and use it. The alternative is getting owned everyday until you either improve or quit. And since they have a year+ of experience on you, it is going to be a while until you can hang with them.
That's called getting good at a game and weapon balance, again, has nothing to do with it. I sucked at CSS when I started playing. Took me two years to get good enough for CAL.Anyone can kill with the scar light/m12/tommy gun. That is why they're banned from leagues and looked down upon by the competitive community.
Wrong, they're looked down upon by elitists like you who use crappy guns so you can justify whining when you lose.Because the competitive community prides itself on skill, things that take no skill (Like rattling off 10 pin point Scar Light shots) are frowned upon.
The reason z8 made the SL a GP weapon was to give EVERYONE access to it, so no matter how much ZP, armor, ect people buy, everyone would have a chance. I can't afford cell phone minutes, nevermind ZP. I don't have the money for camo/gold/adv guns. I'd love to have a silver m4, that gun is balla, but I don't. Reg m4 can't compare.
I think the ZP buys are just butthurt because the best gun in the game is GP. Also, if two people with ScarLights duke it out, guess who wins? The most skilled player. If the most skilled player is not using a scar light, he's not very skilled because he doesn't realize it's the best gun. Are you the kind of person who plays Unreal Tournament and uses the bio rifle because it's "pro?" -
Yet it isn't to most people. As you can tell... some weapons are "too good" to be consider as a "noob cannon"CookieMunzta wrote: »I still do classify it as 'noob' as far as snipers go. The accuracy is higher, it takes a millisecond to calm, and it's a one hit kill pretty much anywhere above the groin.
The only thing that counters those great stats, even remotely, is the weight and lack of movement. -
1st, real money is NO excuse when it comes to skill levels and game balance. Second, COD franchise went downhill after the original COD. MW and MW2 are terrible noob games that feel more like WOW than an FPS. They cannot be compared to a leet game such as this.
If the CoD franchise went downhill after the original, then why are CoD2 and CoD4 the most competitive out of the lot?That's called getting good at a game and weapon balance, again, has nothing to do with it. I sucked at CSS when I started playing. Took me two years to get good enough for CAL.
But how many people sucked at CSS, didn't have a "scar light" to use, and then quit?Wrong, they're looked down upon by elitists like you who use crappy guns so you can justify whining when you lose.
My main gun is a micro galil. What does that tell you?The reason z8 made the SL a GP weapon was to give EVERYONE access to it, so no matter how much ZP, armor, ect people buy, everyone would have a chance. I can't afford cell phone minutes, nevermind ZP. I don't have the money for camo/gold/adv guns. I'd love to have a silver m4, that gun is balla, but I don't. Reg m4 can't compare.
You're making my point with the whole "No matter how much ZP, armor, people buy, everyone would have a chance."
And not everyone has access to the Scar Light. It costs too much GP to maintain 3 nade and defuse kit to just go buy guns willy nilly. By all means, try and prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure its impossible to have two bags, 3 nades, 2 pistols, and 2 main weapons with only GP.
Also, I was the first person in the game to have the m4custom, and I can say without a doubt in my mind that I prefer the normal M4 to it.I think the ZP buys are just butthurt because the best gun in the game is GP. Also, if two people with ScarLights duke it out, guess who wins? The most skilled player. If the most skilled player is not using a scar light, he's not very skilled because he doesn't realize it's the best gun. Are you the kind of person who plays Unreal Tournament and uses the bio rifle because it's "pro?"
I think you're an idiot. Plenty of non ZP buying people agree that the scar light is overpowered. But following your logic, you'd like to see everyone in the game with a scar light. Wouldn't that be kind of dull?
And what about the people who have not reached the rank for it? Are they supposed to not buy any guns, use only the m16 and m700, and get owned by the laser accurate SL for a month or however long it takes to rank up?
Couple things here: #1 CSS is for noobs. So I discredit you pretty much.
#2: I don't play UT, I play Quake
#3: Anytime you want to go head to head with whatever gun, just let me know. I'll be more than happy to Micro galil your Skill Lite. -
... Also, if two people with ScarLights duke it out, guess who wins? The most skilled player. If the most skilled player is not using a scar light, he's not very skilled because he doesn't realize it's the best gun.
OMG!!! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THIS!! maybe you should read this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meaning+of+skill -
OK, so someone explain me this, why isn't AWM a noob gun? it takes the least skill to use than all snipers.
I'd say, that no matter how noobgun you call AWM, an idiot sniper can and will not get a decent kdr just because of AWM instead of <insert sniper rifle here>
A noob sniper can't aim as quickly as a more experienced sniper and doesn't have some sniping reflexes, also usually can't do quickscoping or so
It's usually a 1hit kill, but to do so you have to hit in the first place
The slower firerate doesn't help at that point, and if you don't manage to kill your target, the weight might cause you to not get out of sight quickly enough
I'm not good at sniping and since I'm relying on luckshots and surpise attacks AWM isn't really improving my kdr there -
BROOSEONERRR wrote: »But how many people sucked at CSS, didn't have a "scar light" to use, and then quit?
A lot. It's better for the game as a whole that they leave.My main gun is a micro galil. What does that tell you?
You picked the wrong gun?
You're making my point with the whole "No matter how much ZP, armor, people buy, everyone would have a chance."
And not everyone has access to the Scar Light. It costs too much GP to maintain 3 nade and defuse kit to just go buy guns willy nilly. By all means, try and prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure its impossible to have two bags, 3 nades, 2 pistols, and 2 main weapons with only GP.
Break your starting guns, dont bother with the nades, and maybe some surveys and daily missions, easy.I think you're an idiot. Plenty of non ZP buying people agree that the scar light is overpowered. But following your logic, you'd like to see everyone in the game with a scar light. Wouldn't that be kind of dull?
Yes, it would be kind of bland, but that's how real pros would do it. It's a game balancing problem. That's why CF really isn't huge when it comes to leagues.And what about the people who have not reached the rank for it? Are they supposed to not buy any guns, use only the m16 and m700, and get owned by the laser accurate SL for a month or however long it takes to rank up?
That's what I did.Couple things here: #1 CSS is for noobs. So I discredit you pretty much.
#2: I don't play UT, I play Quake
#3: Anytime you want to go head to head with whatever gun, just let me know. I'll be more than happy to Micro galil your Skill Lite.
That's wonderful. Quake and UT are basically the same game with different skins, just run and jump and gun games. And CSS is pro. -
People only call a gun a 'noob-gun' if someone owned them with it...
You know... I used to own scar-l, tar_21 and xm8, but after my little problem I only got my scar left. So i use scar-L. So what ? I don't see people complain when I've got a bad day and my score is like 10-14.. But if you play good with those so called noob-guns people will complain... I don't care if those people that I own call me a noob. If they think i'm a noob, they should look at their own... They just got owned by a noob...
That's how i see it.
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