MyAWM, Tasty
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considering i know people who did a lot better i wouldn't say i succeeded. more like someone else failed
and if this thread is about success in school not being important then i would have to disagree. yes sometimes hands on experience prevails over grades but nobody is going to want you in the first place if you score sh1tty on the basic examinations.
This thread is about what the sentence says. -
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imo:This thread is about what the sentence says.
success in the system develops your character, personality and who you choose to hang out with. for example all but one of my friends has an average above 90. i mean it's weird to categorize people with grades and all but i know i wouldn't associate with someone who failed just because they probably have a completely different mindset on life and will be a bad role model... so as a person those who failed the system are outcasts and tend to not be noticed as much by the people who succeeded in the system.
i mean you can be a great person, give to charity and just in general be a benign human being but it won't change the fact that you have no education... nobody likes people who don't have money -
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success in the system develops your character, personality and who you choose to hang out with. for example all but one of my friends has an average above 90. i mean it's weird to categorize people with grades and all but i know i wouldn't associate with someone who failed just because they probably have a completely different mindset on life and will be a bad role model... so as a person those who failed the system are outcasts and tend to not be noticed as much by the people who succeeded the system.
My grandpa dropped out of school in Grade 11, worked his ass off pumping gas, went further into autobody, and now he lives in a mediocre house with his wife.
So is he a bad person because he wasn't "successful" in the system? Successful being defined by a specific standard above average. -
My grandpa dropped out of school in Grade 11, worked his ass off pumping gas, went further into autobody, and now he lives in a mediocre house with his wife.
So is he a bad person because he wasn't "successful" in the system? Successful being defined by a specific standard above average.
that's the whole point though. we have different definitions of successful. to you it's making above average which isn't too much. 40k-50k?
i mean some people live happy with just a mere 40k while others require bigger and better things in life. bill gates dropped out too and look where he ended up(although he was on his way to be a successful harvard grad anyway).
eventually these number grades such as 80, 95, etc won't make a difference after you get your first job, but to get there you need to succeed in the system. i know i don't want to be a janitor so i try in school. and everyone has potential to do good except they don't take advantage of it and end up like tasty, bragging about his 80 average and losing virginity at the age of 14 on a gaming forum. -
that's the whole point though. we have different definitions of successful. to you it's making above average which isn't too much. 40k-50k?
i mean some people live happy with just a mere 40k while others require bigger and better things in life. bill gates dropped out too and look where he ended up(although he was on his way to be a successful harvard grad anyway).
a) I never defined my personal standards for success. I used an assumption based on what the majority of people I've spoken to consider to be a ballpark.
b) Then apply your own standards of success to the example. And then give me an answer. -
advantage of it and end up like tasty, bragging about his 80 average and losing virginity at the age of 14 on a gaming forum.
Like you, bragging about RL accomplishments, like they have something to do with your character.
Plushenko's successful in the minds of many. He's still a stuck up *****. -
a) I never defined my personal standards for success. I used an assumption based on what the majority of people I've spoken to consider to be a ballpark.
b) Then apply your own standards of success to the example. And then give me an answer.
it's a complicated concept and it's all opinionated. your grandfather is probably happy with his job or w/e but i'm sure if he had the choice between making 40k a year and 90k a year he would choose the most obvious one...
some people don't feel the need to go through graduate programs and just stick to a low paying job. as long as you're happy you succeeded but that's not what i was getting at in the initial thread. kid was saying he was smart and educated whilst bragging about his 80 average in a high school.
people with down syndrome can hold an 80 average -
Like you, bragging about RL accomplishments, like they have something to do with your character.
Plushenko's successful in the minds of many. He's still a stuck up *****.
i didn't brag. when i'm told "i have no life" or "i've never seen a girl" or something stupid along those lines i had to respond. what better way to respond than applying my real life accomplishments... -
it's a complicated concept and it's all opinionated. your grandfather is probably happy with his job or w/e but i'm sure if he had the choice between making 40k a year and 90k a year he would choose the most obvious reasons.
some people don't feel the need to go through graduate programs and just stick to a low paying job. as long as you're happy you succeeded but that's not what i was getting at in the initial thread. kid was saying he was smart and educated whilst bragging about his 80 average in a high school.
people with down syndrome can hold an 80 average
You still haven't given me an answer.
I'm asking for YOUR opinion. Apply YOUR definition of success, and then use your own bias to come up with an opinion. -
i didn't brag. when i'm told "i have no life" or "i've never seen a girl" or something stupid along those lines i had to respond. what better way to respond than applying my real life accomplishments...
A better way would be to have an understanding of the fact that specifics that he specified, whether true or not, have no meaning on the conversation at hand. -
You still haven't given me an answer.
I'm asking for YOUR opinion. Apply YOUR definition of success, and then use your own bias to come up with an opinion.
you don't seem to understand. success is a personal feeling of accomplishment. i don't know your grandfather; therefore, i cannot answer your question. if he's happy with what he has then i'd say he has succeeded.
there is no boundary line to determine what is success and what is failer. success to one person may be failer to another.
to me success would be finishing 6 years of this undergraduate+graduate program at St.Johns and become a pharmacist followed by wife and kids and all the other things that make me happy... -
you don't seem to understand. success is a personal feeling of accomplishment. i don't know your grandfather; therefore, i cannot answer your question. if he's happy with what he has then i'd say he has succeeded.
No, you specified in your post that you had specific standards for success. Meaning that you can say to yourself that that person has/hasn't succeeded according to your specific standards.
This isn't about what he thinks. -
if i may throw something in...
for me its not desirable to be successful in this system at all. which does not mean, that i failed at life. i got all i need, still i refuse to fit in there and just shut up.
in my opinion the vast majority of individuals who are highly "successful" in the system
are corrupts who would sell their own grandmothers. -
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, having high G.P.A.s doesn't necessarily lead to high intelligence or success. Also, success is a societal invention.
It is based on conformity, and is influenced by the culture and society one lives in. To people like us, living in larger cities, success is usually defined by money. You are a successful writer, you make money. Successful sports player, producer, company, artist... they all lead back to one thing; money. Even fame leads back to the same concept.
Can you say that is the only right view of success? Sure the above were all shallow examples, but the fact remains that to the majority of society, money is power; power is success.
Now, to someone who hasn't known a society that is based on money, what is success? Are they just ignorant of true success? Or is it that success is based on a human invention; a result of someone's, or many people's imagination?
You know what, I don't even remember why I was writing this. Forgetfulness and ignorance are bliss to me, i'll enjoy my procrastination of this success a little longer... besides, nobody likes to do labs for class anyway. -
No, you specified in your post that you had specific standards for success. Meaning that you can say to yourself that that person has/hasn't succeeded according to your specific standards.
This isn't about what he thinks.
that's right because i have my own judgment of success. some may think my standards are too high and others may think they are too low. your point? -
that's right because i have my own judgment of success. some may think my standards are too high and others may think they are too low. your point?
My point is that I still would like an answer. Which can be given by you because the only variables are ones based on YOUR opinions.
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