Hey Fallen,
1. Double standard much? First off,
The only thing in the rules that even MENTIONS drugs is specifically about speaking of committing illegal actions, at which point it lists drugs as an example.
Secondly, Famasnewb had at least 2 avatars portraying marijuana during his time as a moderator.
Nice. Really. Maybe you read over your own rules before telling others to.
2.
People were getting IP banned for making alts after their mains were banned for blatant power abuse by LadyShy. And only GMs have the power to IP ban.
IIRC we drove the MODs to quit, through no movement of Z8's. And unless you can show us a post/announcement by a Z8 rep stating that they were released to due your own involvement, then there's no reason for us to believe otherwise.
So you're silly. I guess liars, idiots, crybabies, and life-ruiners get special privileges.
Also, I know that some idiot is going to try to close this for it being a thread about a closed thread. Well guess what, it's a completely different subject. If you actually need an explanation, then PM me ffs.
I don't see anything about pictures of drugs. Quote it in the rules.Keep your signature/Avatar clean, no profanity, racial material, nudity, extreme violence, or links to any other site that contains any of these things.
The only thing in the rules that even MENTIONS drugs is specifically about speaking of committing illegal actions, at which point it lists drugs as an example.
Secondly, Famasnewb had at least 2 avatars portraying marijuana during his time as a moderator.
Nice. Really. Maybe you read over your own rules before telling others to.
2.
Completely false. Famasnewb and LadyShy?We do not tolerate abuses of power by anyone MOD or even GM and if they do that enough they will be let go.
People were getting IP banned for making alts after their mains were banned for blatant power abuse by LadyShy. And only GMs have the power to IP ban.
IIRC we drove the MODs to quit, through no movement of Z8's. And unless you can show us a post/announcement by a Z8 rep stating that they were released to due your own involvement, then there's no reason for us to believe otherwise.
So you're silly. I guess liars, idiots, crybabies, and life-ruiners get special privileges.
Also, I know that some idiot is going to try to close this for it being a thread about a closed thread. Well guess what, it's a completely different subject. If you actually need an explanation, then PM me ffs.
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I know it was a long time ago, Just saying
Mods do abuse powers. Its what happens when you give it to random 10 yr olds.
How is it constructive criticism to tell someone that they have boring videos? (When in fact the videos were good and informative)
Take your crusade elsewhere. -
[MOD]Bruce wrote: »How is it constructive criticism to tell someone that they have boring videos? (When in fact the videos were good and informative)
Take your crusade elsewhere.
I'm not being against you but...he just asked for opinions...not just "good" opinions. -
[MOD]Bruce wrote: »How is it constructive criticism to tell someone that they have boring videos? (When in fact the videos were good and informative)
Take your crusade elsewhere.
How is it insulting? And my opinion was that the videos were boring, Diff people have diff tastes.
Would also like to quote this
same thread from iTwAsLucKFail rendering settings...
The tutorials are boring
BEt he didn't get trolled for it. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Pehaps there are some misconceptions here... It states in the rules that you should respect staff (meaning GM's AND MOD's(. That would explain the suspensions for the LadyShy business.
No. Aero was banned for absolutely nothing.
Thought you were on vent when this happened. Guess not.
Not only that, but I was banned for stating facts. And facts are only insults when the person reading them applies their own bias to it.
Which isn't my fault. -
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Pehaps there are some misconceptions here... It states in the rules that you should respect staff (meaning GM's AND MOD's(. That would explain the suspensions for the LadyShy business.
My whole goal for that day was to prove she wasn't mod material WITHOUT breaking rules. This includes harassment. -
My whole goal for that day was to prove she wasn't mod material WITHOUT breaking rules. This includes harassment.
None of the mods except Greycloak are 'Mod material'
They know nothing about the game, They just get picked cuz they do nothing all day -
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None of the mods except Greycloak are 'Mod material'
They know nothing about the game, They just get picked cuz they do nothing all day
That's false.
Don't troll on my thread unless you present a valid, detailed argument. Until then go try arguing with Kahlan over a GM pub. -
Fallen should do everything right?
BTW i think the mods are being slobby/loose, they should be more strict [to everyone/everything].
No not really, some do have the gift :PNone of the mods except Greycloak are 'Mod material'
They know nothing about the game, They just get picked cuz they do nothing all day -
It's not trolling, It's called discussion.
And i have no idea who kahlan is?
So the 4 PMs I have archived of him verbally ****** you mean nothing? That is if you are Nooby.
Anyways, saying something without any sort of reasoning behind it doesn't do anything for a discussion. All it does i add more to the lower level mob mentality that usually gets threads like this closed. -
I really don't want to get involved in this. But I will speak to a few issues pointed out in the first thread.
Double-standards exist always. Over time we have tried to eliminate some of the double-standards that have been in play in the past.
For example, Famas is no longer a mod. Was given enough notices and warnings for various avatars and signature images. And eventually was removed from being a mod.
There is no specific reference to the rules of the forums to drugs. However, if something is contributing negatively to the forum we do have the right to remove it as we see fit. Specifically in reference to the avatar that was removed earlier today. I myself didn't have a problem with it, nor did obviously some of the mods and others. However, as soon as one person sends a complaint about that we have to take action. In this case, rather than saying "no this drug reference is perfectly fine on our forums" it was decided that the avatar would be removed.
The method for which this particular case was handled was in my opinion incorrect. Generally when I come across a questionable avatar (or signature) I try to make it a point (and offer this advice to the other mods and gms) of sending them a message kindly stating the reasons why this avatar should be removed and ask them to remove it. Especially if the avatar falls in a grey area like the one in question.
Now to address some of the other issues going on in this thread. The issue with the past Metin 2 mod Ladyshy, is a moot one. You ALL know you were being annoying and you ALL were purposely egging eachother on and bringing this issue to such proportions that we had no choice but to take action. What bothers me the most is that Ladyshy's actions were questionable at best and we removed her as a mod. YOU ALL caused that, and you GOT WHAT YOU WANTED. So leave the issue with her be and lets never speak of that again.
As for Bruce. Bruce is back because he gets a second chance to act better than he did before. His ability to moderate is not in question, simply the way he does it. For the same "double standards" that metin 2 mods seem to get, Bruce gets that on our side as well. But Bruce is always watched for, and because of his love/hate status with the community, every action he does goes under the microscope. Same with some of the Metin 2 mods.
So to sum this up, some actions today taken by all parties probably weren't the way it should have happened. But at the end of the day, an avatar was removed because it contained content that someone found offensive. And a player forum account has been banned for using a highly insulting term on the metin 2 forums.
The communities were divided to avoid this stuff, and we were doing perfectly fine. I don't see why all of this has to come up again and again with the same people on these forums. I realize we're all bored and tired of the hacking. But lets not lash out on these forums for no reason please!
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