Ideia to reduce in-game hackers - Let's Follow Valve's eg.!

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  • iDrake wrote: »
    Well, as you know there's no free-games without hackers. Idea:
    -Z8 should create an "ID Server". ID server is not for everyone,you'll need to buy your ID with ZP. Then you get one ID to enter the ID server. If someone hacks, Z8 just blocks his/her ID. Each ID can be used for one account only.

    Ok, But why do we need to pay to get in this hacker free server?

    -If you pay, you think twice before hacking.. BEcause if you lose your account/ID you'll lose money. ..

    I have nothing against non-ZP buyers.. But i dont see other way to reduce the number of hackers.

    very good idee !!!! :D<333
  • "C. Subscription Servers
    -Currently not under consideration. Generally this idea stems from the thought that hackers don't buy Z8GAMES points. ZPOPs get busted for breaking the rules too."

    Whilst a premium server may not be exactly the same as a subscription server, I guess it's the same idea.
  • People who've spent over a certain (but obtainable) amount of money should be able to play on a server separate from others.


    People who've spent money obviously care about the game and would be much more vigilant in reporting cheaters on said server.
  • Because a lot of cheaters are convinced that they won't get caught.
  • iDrake wrote: »
    I have nothing against non-ZP buyers.. But i dont see other way to reduce the number of hackers.

    Yes there are other ways:

    1) Put more people as moderators/admins, the ones who recieve the replays. There's actually like 1 or 2 guys who are working on it. I still see hackers playing that I've reported weeks ago.

    2) A replay should be enough. They are asking u to also include screenshots, if not, the request will be denied. The harder they make it for us, the more hackers there will be.

    3) IGN/accounts should be related to IP addresses. There's a lot of games that work that way (IE the Novalogic series).
  • Maybe we should all just realize that this game has no hope.
  • I think thats a good i dea if i can bring my acc from the other server.
  • dejanc wrote: »
    Yes there are other ways:

    2) A replay should be enough. They are asking u to also include screenshots, if not, the request will be denied. The harder they make it for us, the more hackers there will be.

    I can send you a replay where every single player in the game is SAS and has the ign "xX[D1]F1REXx"

    What I'm saying is that the screenshots ensure the legitimacy of the replay, which are easily cracked with a basic hex editor... or at least before last patch they were.

    Thumbs down on the elitist server idea. I started out as a non-ZP buyer and then later on became one. Any special treatment like this doesn't seem like it would facilitate that sort of transition, and would probably work against it.
  • KissMB wrote: »
    People pay to have hack , (...)

    Not at all. Only 7% of the cheaters are VIP.
  • Rammajamma wrote: »
    great because most hackers i have seen are spops and have ZP guns

    THIS IS GOING TO WORK

    Most hackers you have seen are spops?

    Lol, i see , you yell out "HAKCS!!11" to anyone who HS you.
  • iDrake wrote: »
    Not at all. Only 7% of the cheaters are VIP.
    when I see people talking about percentage of this and that on a world wide game as CF it makes me laugh . On what basis have you got that percentage ? are the hacking sites that gave you that imformation or it`s the MODs and Z8 that are feeding you with all the anounts of hackers running on CF ?
  • KissMB wrote: »
    when I see people talking about percentage of this and that on a world wide game as CF it makes me laugh . On what basis have you got that percentage ? are the hacking sites that gave you that imformation or it`s the MODs and Z8 that are feeding you with all the anounts of hackers running on CF ?

    IDK...
    But there seems to be only aimbotter and chammers in CF now...
    No more speed h4ckers so yay!
  • But then that server would be full of people with Krisses and ZP guns!
    imagine a noob with krissis xD = noob
    the noob is noob even though he has a bazooka
  • iDrake wrote: »
    Most hackers you have seen are spops?

    Lol, i see , you yell out "HAKCS!!11" to anyone who HS you.


    SPOP>>>>>HS me?

    I don't see the connection. Safe bet: assume people know more than you.
    iDrake wrote: »
    Not at all. Only 7% of the cheaters are VIP.

    I don't want to know where you pulled this out of.
  • iDrake wrote: »
    Well, as you know there's no free-games without hackers. Idea:
    -Z8 should create an "ID Server". ID server is not for everyone,you'll need to buy your ID with ZP. Then you get one ID to enter the ID server. If someone hacks, Z8 just blocks his/her ID. Each ID can be used for one account only.

    Ok, But why do we need to pay to get in this hacker free server?

    -If you pay, you think twice before hacking.. BEcause if you lose your account/ID you'll lose money. ..

    I have nothing against non-ZP buyers.. But i dont see other way to reduce the number of hackers.


    LMAO ive seen so many zp buyers hack its not funny we all know that zp buyers dont get bann and i have the proof that they dont any one wants to see it pm so if they dont bann zp buyers for hack now what makes u think they will bann then if they buy an id , if u want to hack all u have to do is spend money on zp its as simple as that!
  • SPOP>>>>>HS me?

    I don't see the connection. Safe bet: assume people know more than you.



    I don't want to know where you pulled this out of.


    Wow, slow brain. Majority of good players have got SPOP. Good players, HS you a lot. You get HS'ed and you yell out "HAKCS!!11". Got it? Some sudoku would..
  • F*** this im not buying some zp again to acess 1 server
  • many weeks ago a thought about a zp server
    you would just need 1 zp to join(it wouldn't take your zp away), so there would be less hackers in that server because hackers don't spend real money(well sometimes they do, but there would be less hackers) besides there would be more gms in that server xD

    that wont work, free zp thing, go do a easy one and they get in..you need the one where you have to buy the ID
  • iDrake wrote: »
    Wow, slow brain. Majority of good players have got SPOP. Good players, HS you a lot. You get HS'ed and you yell out "HAKCS!!11". Got it? Some sudoku would..

    Does this count as flame bait? Cause it's his thread, you can close it if you want.

    Here is a diagram to explain what you missed:
    picture1zd.th.png

    1.Good Players < Bad Players & Hackers

    2.Good Players with SPOP > Good PLayers w/o SPOP (Which is what YOU said.)

    3.Bad Players (who don't hs me) and Hackers (Who still usually don't hs me) with SPOP > Good Players with SPOP

    Your argument is INVALID.

    P.S. Don't point out that I made up numbers, because anyone who knows me knows I'll just go get the right ones.
  • the problem is even though Gm read these suggestion they cant do anything
  • Does this count as flame bait? Cause it's his thread, you can close it if you want.

    Here is a diagram to explain what you missed:
    picture1zd.th.png

    1.Good Players < Bad Players & Hackers

    2.Good Players with SPOP > Good PLayers w/o SPOP (Which is what YOU said.)

    3.Bad Players (who don't hs me) and Hackers (Who still usually don't hs me) with SPOP > Good Players with SPOP

    Your argument is INVALID.

    P.S. Don't point out that I made up numbers, because anyone who knows me knows I'll just go get the right ones.

    Your basing your diagram on opinion... That graph means absolutely **** all... What
    do you consider a good player, what do you consider a bad player? How many of those
    were confirmed hackers (and not opinion based) what sample size
    did you use to get to your conclusion? You provided none of these therefor your
    graph is moot.

    On topic, a ZP server will not fix anything... at first it seems like a good idea,
    however the amount of players banned (regardless if they purchase ZP or not) for
    hacking is very small compared to the amount of obviouse hacks
    (aimbot twitches/one shot kills) that are ramped right now, or in the past month.

    Z8 has yet to prove that they can confidently take care of the hacker problem at all,
    and therefor have created an almost safe haven for hacking. People are so confident
    that they are willing to get on their main account during scrims, knowing that the possible
    chances of getting banned is slim. I know whole clans whom use VIP One shot
    kill hacks with pings less than 100, whom have yet to get banned regardless of the
    flak they receive on the forums.

    ~Wrapper~
  • mah i have banned a 2cnd Lt kriss super v+ ak scope he let me use them in match then on the last round aimbot with lots of cham report next day banned :)
  • man, i ve seen more guys with ZP chamming than the ordinary native guys with just guts and steel..this is BAD IDEA...CF is FREE 2 PLAY, and should stay FREE 2 PLAY..if u want to pay to play, then go play CSS, there are less than 3% of hackers..they should deal with hackers in their own way...like modifying the anti cheat or get the new, useful one
  • I actually don't mind spending 20$ for crossfire. but one thing they would need to remove the ZP system. its either you pay to play the full game or you don't pay and play parts of the game and pay for extra.
  • Wrapper, how DARE you simultaneously agree with me and insult my diagrams -_-

    What this idea would do to Crossfire: turn every server into the noob server. Ironically, I think the whole VIP thing in China is based on the same concept.
  • Have you guys been in the rookie server? /that place is jam packed with obvious hackers. IF you create a special server for ZP buyers (assuming that the hackers do not buy ZP points) all the hackers will be concentrated in the non ZPbuyer servers. While a minortiy of a gamer class (ZP buyers) relieve themselves from cheaters (again assuming that hackers dont buy ZP), the majority of the gamers( the non ZP buyers) will have to deal with a more concentrated hacking class. THe non ZP servers may eventually be as concentrated with hackers as the rookie server. This is a horrible predicament for most of the crossfire audience. any1 have a counter-argument?
  • Yea major problem. now there is the "free ZP". what if hakers learn about it oO then they get on the server!
  • boyerm wrote: »
    LMAO ive seen so many zp buyers hack its not funny we all know that zp buyers dont get bann and i have the proof that they dont any one wants to see it pm so if they dont bann zp buyers for hack now what makes u think they will bann then if they buy an id , if u want to hack all u have to do is spend money on zp its as simple as that!

    What "proof" do you have exactly? I reported a SPOP 2nd lieutenant a while back who was hacking and they got banned the next day, so I ask again, what is this "proof" you speak of? I'm not saying that ZP buyers don't hack, but don't come out and say you have "proof" they don't get banned, because I have PROOF they do.