Seriously Z8

Public hacks have been out all week and no ones stopping them.

You refuse to patch known glitches. (damage zoning that doesn't even work doesn't count)

I go to the UK server whenever possible to AVOID laggers. Wth? I'M IN WISCONSIN!


You're making it impossible for the people that buy zp to even enjoy this game anymore. Something needs to be done, because frankly this is bull. It won't be long before you start losing revenue, and you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.
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  • At least they fixed the clan page so it doesnt take forever to load> chiilllll
  • u have to wait a little... we will have a patch really soon ( this week maybe ) o they will patch the haks once more... but in 15 days the haks will be out again ( 1 or 2 guys will have it ) and in the next week all n00bs will have them.... Z8 games will do something about it... don't worry :)
  • Hodler2 wrote: »
    Public hacks have been out all week and no ones stopping them.

    You refuse to patch known glitches. (damage zoning that doesn't even work doesn't count)

    I go to the UK server whenever possible to AVOID laggers. Wth? I'M IN WISCONSIN!


    You're making it impossible for the people that buy zp to even enjoy this game anymore. Something needs to be done, because frankly this is bull. It won't be long before you start losing revenue, and you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.


    wisconsin ftw i used to live there <3~
  • RafaLT wrote: »
    u have to wait a little... we will have a patch really soon ( this week maybe ) o they will patch the haks once more... but in 15 days the haks will be out again ( 1 or 2 guys will have it ) and in the next week all n00bs will have them.... Z8 games will do something about it... don't worry :)

    There will always be private hacks with the system of prevention z8 uses, which is understandable. Not perfect. But better. The problem I have is there are public hacks out now and every game has someone using them, and the mission system makes it worse. Now the hackers cluster.
    KMAshunz wrote: »
    wisconsin ftw i used to live there <3~

    I like the cold, not a big fan of the heat.
  • AznKnight1 wrote: »

    And there only dealing with reported people and anyone can just make a new account since they don't Hardware ban or at the very least IP ban.

    They aren't taking action against stopping the hack.
  • used to live all over wisconsin now i moved to texas, i really miss the snow :(
  • Hodler2 wrote: »
    And there only dealing with reported people and anyone can just make a new account since they don't Hardware ban or at the very least IP ban.

    They aren't taking action against stopping the hack.

    I'm loving this new hack amazing key logger makes you feel better after about 1 game the account no longer belongs to the h@cker
  • I've read that thread and it doesn't make a difference. They're banning hackers as quickly as possible. But the bans are seriously laughable and they have a new account five minutes later. And Z8 isn't doing anything about that hack, Idc about the hackING, fix the hack and the hackers have nothing.
  • i read somewhere that its a blanket ban does that mean ip?
  • Things are being done.. This hack is a little different then what we've experienced and is taking a little longer than expected... just hold out a bit longer
  • AznKnight1 wrote: »
    i read somewhere that its a blanket ban does that mean ip?

    It's still ineffective, anyone who knows what they're doing can bypass it. Hardware bans would be ideal.
  • Things are being done.. This hack is a little different then what we've experienced and is taking a little longer than expected... just hold out a bit longer

    It's easier said then done. I mean i only realistically get to play maybe 2 hours like 4 times a week and its annoying when I don't get to enjoy the little time I have.
  • Never play in delta 9 in the password room all br and all hacking


    ps password to those room is br just in case you want to know how it feelz
  • They all have keyloggers and are pretty much auto banned. I went against a knifer with that hack... I actually killed him most of the time...
  • KillGod wrote: »
    They all have keyloggers and are pretty much auto banned. I went against a knifer with that hack... I actually killed him most of the time...

    oh the thing that makes me knife real fast lol
    i killed some in ghost mode and they were calling me hacker all the time
  • Yea, this is officially bull****. I logged in for literally 15 minutes. Three games, and at least 5 hackers. That's 20 hackers an hour. And Z8 still not doing anything. It's really ****ing me off because Z8 is LEGALLY obligated to control this and it's been a week. Stop focusing on content updates and get what you already have under control before you end up like Ijji.

    BTW fix you're obsolete kicking system so that it actually can kick the hackers.
  • That math is a joke, you can't calculate amount of hackers like that.

    We're doing a lot actually - constant hack-report reviews, not to mention http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=68511.

    We're not legally obligated - it is however good business to get rid of hackers, which is why we do it. Everyone wants a clean game.

    We must focus on both content and hacks. Kind of hard to pay the developers and XTrap without money.


    The kick system is faulty in the sense that a skipped vote shouldn't be a "deny" vote, but it of course doesn't recognize whether or not a person hacks.
  • Hodler2 wrote: »
    And there only dealing with reported people and anyone can just make a new account since they don't Hardware ban or at the very least IP ban.

    They aren't taking action against stopping the hack.

    XTrap does the patches to prevent hacks, not Z8Games.
    Hodler2 wrote: »
    It's really ****ing me off because Z8 is LEGALLY obligated to control this and it's been a week. Stop focusing on content updates and get what you already have under control before you end up like Ijji.
    How exactly are they legally obligated to control it?
  • Hacks can't be patched in seconds! It takes time! Unless you want to do it for them, stop whining!

    Those "hackers" probably don't even hack! I played for 2 hours today and only saw one wall running-througher-person!
  • Glitches are being taken care of. If you read, you would know the public hack is being worked on, if you payed attention and knew what was happening, you would know everything is being worked on.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    That math is a joke, you can't calculate amount of hackers like that.

    We're doing a lot actually - constant hack-report reviews, not to mention http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=68511.

    We're not legally obligated - it is however good business to get rid of hackers, which is why we do it.

    We must focus on both content and hacks. Kind of hard to pay the developers and XTrap without money.


    The kick system is faulty in the sense that a skipped vote shouldn't be a "deny" vote, but it of course doesn't recognize whether or not a person hacks.


    First of all I didn't say that that calculated the number of hackers. It's an estimation of how many hackers you would come across in an hour of gameplay.

    Second, how about you take some attention off of reviewing reports and take care of the hack first? No hack = no hackers. (of course there will always be private hacks, but take care of the pub) Worry about the reports later. (but it won't even make a difference because you don't hardware ban)

    And what is all our money going into then? Because Xtrap's a joke, and the longer this goes on the more people who buy zp are going to leave. Combat arms is looking pretty good atm as sad as I am to say it.

    And obviously the kick system can't detect hacks, but neither can xtrap can it? But when a group of people recognize a hacker and have to go through literally all their votes to be rid of it isn't effective enough to even bother when another hacker will join within five minutes.
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    Glitches are being taken care of. If you read, you would know the public hack is being worked on, if you payed attention and knew what was happening, you would know everything is being worked on.

    Glitches are NOT being taken care of because damage zoning is ineffective. And I do pay attention and I know what is being "worked on". The point is this has been happening for a week. That's too long, and you all know it.

    And I'm sure this thread is going to be closed soon btw.

    And also who the hell cares that it installs a keylogger? If people hack they deserve to have that account stolen and all information along with it. It's an actual punishment for hacking as opposed to being banned for five minutes.
  • Hodler2 wrote: »
    Second, how about you take some attention off of reviewing reports and take care of the hack first? No hack = no hackers.
    Xtrap handles the patching of hacks. They are currently working on patching the hack. There's nothing you can possibly do to speed up the process unless -you- can suddenly crap out the code that patches it. Good luck with that, since I doubt you even know how to code.
    Hodler2 wrote: »
    And what is all our money going into then? Because Xtrap's a joke, and the longer this goes on the more people who buy zp are going to leave. Combat arms is looking pretty good atm as sad as I am to say it.
    CA has more hackers than CF will ever have. And XTrap's done a damn good job compared to any other option available.
    Hodler2 wrote: »
    And obviously the kick system can't detect hacks, but neither can xtrap can it?
    There's no real way to improve the kick system, and once again, xtrap is being worked on to detect this new hack. You clearly have no understanding how hack prevention programs work.
  • Hodler2 wrote: »
    First of all I didn't say that that calculated the number of hackers. It's an estimation of how many hackers you would come across in an hour of gameplay.

    Second, how about you take some attention off of reviewing reports and take care of the hack first? No hack = no hackers. (of course there will always be private hacks, but take care of the pub) Worry about the reports later. (but it won't even make a difference because you don't hardware ban)

    And what is all our money going into then? Because Xtrap's a joke, and the longer this goes on the more people who buy zp are going to leave. Combat arms is looking pretty good atm as sad as I am to say it.

    And obviously the kick system can't detect hacks, but neither can xtrap can it? But when a group of people recognize a hacker and have to go through literally all their votes to be rid of it isn't effective enough to even bother when another hacker will join within five minutes.
    Z8 does not handle the hacks. The developers and XTrap do.
    Z8 handles reports and publishing.

    XTrap is highly efficient. Do compare Crossfire to any other F2P MMOFPS out there - obviously not including the recent public hack since it uses a new method we couldn't possibly have planned for or patched any earlier then we will - they have far more hackers then we do, using the same hacks now that they had a year ago.


    XTrap detects a lot actually, which is why you don't see the same hacks you saw half a year ago.
    The hackers are forced to seek other methods of hooking. They found a decent one this time, which is why it has taken a week (oh my god) to break down their code entirely and figure out a way to not only prevent it from happening again, but instantly banning them too.

    I agree, the vote kick is faulty.
  • If Crossfire has as many bad points as your pointing out why do you still play it?

    You have to understand not everything can be fixed within 10 seconds everything takes time.
  • Trust me, you're talking to the wrong MOD when you say they ain't being taken care of.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Z8 does not handle the hacks. The developers and XTrap do.
    Z8 handles reports and publishing.

    XTrap is highly efficient. Do compare Crossfire to any other F2P MMOFPS out there - obviously not including the recent public hack since it uses a new method we couldn't possibly have planned for or patched any earlier then we will.
    XTrap detects a lot actually, which is why you don't see the same hacks you saw half a year ago.
    The hackers are forced to seek other methods of hooking. They found a decent one this time, which is why it has taken a week (oh my god) to break down their code entirely and figure out a way to not only prevent it from happening again, but instantly banning them too.

    I agree, the vote kick is faulty.

    Lol ok.
    Ijji. F2PMMOs and nearly never had hacking problems later in development. It's fallen under and reduced to crap for other reasons. And a "highly effective" hack prevention system stops private hacks as well, not just the pubs, which Xtrap doesn't do at all.