Making ranked actually competitive

KarmaG0D

I’ve had this thought process, for a while along with a large sum of other players that carried the same though.
What if we made Crossfire Ranked SnD set to competitive rules. It seems only fair since it is called “ranked” and it should be based on how well you play, And with that, a fair and even common ground should be set within the player base, and the only fair way to do so, is by having it set to comp. rules. I understand that CFS weapons are not readily available but... it can be done to where it almost acts like a SnD arms deal, but it gives you the CFS weapon to use for that round of your choice.
This thread is likely to be ignored since Crossfire West follows the patterns of Crossfire China / Brazil, but it would be nice for our CF West to make a change and make ranked actually competitive.
Vips are insanely pay to win, and having them in ranked doesn’t bode well for those who have to grind their way up the ranks, to be shut down by a vip with little to no recoil.

Baodao22222

I support this.

Painanator

Some of the CFS weapons are actually better than their VIP counterparts, the AK-47 for one. The mode you are describing, should have been implemented instead of Arms-deal.
I don't think they should take away the regular ranked s&d though (how it is now).

This is discussed every 1-2 months, so I say the same thing as i usually say and many other players also say.
People are always complaining about the unfair advantage of VIP weapons and the so called cheat-weapons (Evo, Tmp, 9A etc), but if you can't work around an enemy, just because he/she has a better weapon than you, then maybe you should be playing ranked at all.
Bad player with good weapon = mediocre player. If you are any good you can win against other players no matter what weapon.

I suck at s&d, but I managed to grind up to Master (only did that once, because there were only one weapon I thought were worth the effort, the GR3) without any VIP's or any of the "cheat weapons". I used my SR3M, The ranked version of Kriss super-V, regular AK-47 and my Halloween At-15. If I can do it, any idiot can.

Tmp players are only dangerous if they manage to ambush you from behind (it's the most overrated weapon in the game) or if 2 tmp players come when you are alone. Evo players are more dangerous, but if they aren't having 6 VIP Thompson's in the bag, their ammo is easily depleted in a firefight. 9A are the same, but do a little more damage. Slug users are tricky close-up, but just HS them or spray when they are reloading. The biggest obstacle weapon-wise, if you ask me, are snipers or AK users that one-tap you from a distance. The thing I have most trouble with in ranked, is the hit-reg. If you are under 50 ping and meet a player with 80-150 ping, they are almost immortal about half the time, with 1/5 shots actually hitting them. Then we are talking about the need to use spray-friendly weapons, to not let them have a super advantage. Players using VIPs or "Cheat Weapons" are mostly psychological-warfare, people thinking they are deadlier than they really are and freak out. It's mainly because of that reason +laziness i use my evo3, its so incredibly funny to see some one freak out, or rage because i use an evo3, while in truth that players ak-47 is the superior weapon in any range. If he/she wasn't rattled that easily, he/she could take me easily with 1-2 shots.

Michaelxv205

Painanator wrote: »

Some of the CFS weapons are actually better than their VIP counterparts, the AK-47 for one.

Definitely not to the comment about the AK CFS being better than VIP or even the normal one. As someone who has played this game at the peak level. I can fully vouch that TMP, Evo, 9a91 give bad players the opportunity to kill solid players. Ping and other stuff add to that advantage as well. Lower ping is way better than higher ping in terms of 1-1 shooting instances. The VIPs are by default deadlier than most guns and easily more deadly than cfs guns. Just because a gun is "superior" at every range or w/e u claim doesn't make the gun easier to use. Evo rewards bad play and is easy to use. Ak is more difficult to use but better rewards good play.

Painanator

Michaelxv205 wrote: »

Definitely not to the comment about the AK CFS being better than VIP or even the normal one. As someone who has played this game at the peak level. I can fully vouch that TMP, Evo, 9a91 give bad players the opportunity to kill solid players. Ping and other stuff add to that advantage as well. Lower ping is way better than higher ping in terms of 1-1 shooting instances. The VIPs are by default deadlier than most guns and easily more deadly than cfs guns. Just because a gun is "superior" at every range or w/e u claim doesn't make the gun easier to use. Evo rewards bad play and is easy to use. Ak is more difficult to use but better rewards good play.

The AK-47 CFS (and the Anniversary, which is the same) is probably the best AK in the game when it comes to making easy head-shots. At least it is from all the AK's I tried (including all but the newest VIP). I am not including wallbang and other stuff like reload time, when I am talking about it being better than it's VIP counterparts. I am talking about the ease to kill multiple enemies before I die myself, from my own experience. (Yes I have PnP'd statistics to see which one was the best, before the new in game stats system) The CFS AK tied at No1, the Beast and Fury was 2 and 3.

I still say the "Cheat weapons" are mostly psychological. I know that they have nice stats in at least one category. 9a only has low ammo, Scorpion has low ammo and bad damage. When it comes to the TMP, it is a worthless gun outside of HMX. It's fast and has JHP, but almost any SMG is better in my eyes. And i still say can you really call yourself a good player, if you can't adapt and win anyway?

When it comes to ping, what game have you been playing? It is not CF anyway. In any other game low-ping would be good, but not here. Countless times I have met player within the stated golden-zone and hit them pointblank, only for them to turn around and HS you, showing no damage was done to them. Getting killed after you have checked around a corner, when you are supposed to be safe. Getting killed, because the player you are facing, is teleporting a Meter to the left when you are facing him/her close up. There have been multiple threads about this in this year alone, with the larger part of players saying the same and It's not actually a new phenomenon.

Michaelxv205

play actual competitive when you have 150+ ping and the opponent has 7-20, it's generally unplayable. Having a lt's opinion means nothing. There's a reason X gun is banned and others are allowed. Your relevance to "good player" is that of a low to low mid tier mentality. You can try or use w/e you want but the fact is that it's just generally untrue. But you will stick to your opinion and that's perfectly fine. Also in the last part what your referencing is interp, don't know if you know what that is.

Painanator

Michaelxv205 wrote: »

play actual competitive when you have 150+ ping and the opponent has 7-20, it's generally unplayable. Having a lt's opinion means nothing. There's a reason X gun is banned and others are allowed. Your relevance to "good player" is that of a low to low mid tier mentality. You can try or use w/e you want but the fact is that it's just generally untrue. But you will stick to your opinion and that's perfectly fine. Also in the last part what your referencing is interp, don't know if you know what that is.

Yeah, as I said it's supposed to be like that, but it isn't. I know of interpolation, I just call it Ping-lagg (but I am old, so i use the terms we used). The problem is that it should give an advantage to the low-pinger but I haven't experienced that, in this game. The things I, and it seems, a lot of other players, have experienced, only seem to happen at that ping difference. Some that have 10-20 ping, have reported the same thing when they meet people with 70-80 ping. Something isn't right with CF's way of registering hits. But it's not consistent either, as it happens only about half the matches you play, meeting high pingers.

It might be a low to mid tier mentality, but I still say it, you can't call yourself a good-player if you can't adapt tactics after how an enemy acts (including weaponry). I see it as a fun challenge when I face someone better armed or higher ranked (or both), trying to poke a hole in their strategy.

As I know nothing about the competitive side of CF(I started playing CF because I didn't see it as a competitive game, so I could actually relax while playing), I have to ask (because of the competitive with 150 ping statement): Isn't all competitions done live, e.g. at a special place? So it's almost impossible to have that high ping in a competition. I ask, because when I played competitions, we had to be there or have those holding the competitions become more lenient, so you can compete from home these days. My last competition game, was before CF started, so I am kind of out of the loop.

Michaelxv205

No no competition in CF except for CFS in China is done live. Everything else is done online and NA vs EU vs Egypt. So to the side that has the server pick = advantage

tienguyen

I just want to make it clear, this JackPain guy doesn't even play ranked and honestly has no say in any of this.

Painanator

HennyNPercs wrote: »

"The AK-47 CFS (and the Anniversary, which is the same) is probably the best AK in the game when it comes to making easy head-shots. At least it is from all the AK's I tried (including all but the newest VIP).".

This is a Point of view, coming from going 20, 12 min FFA games for each gun, in which I wrote down head-shots and kills for each gun. Top three was CFS/Anniversary at no1, 2 and 3 was Beast and Fury (don't remember in which order) I did purely for myself, to see which gun was best suited for me. And to clarify only tap-shots (If I wasn't surprised and fired by reflex). This forum is a place to discuss personal experiences and viewpoints, not a scientific database. I can only tell you what I concluded for myself. If it doesn't work that for you, it ain't that strange, because we are not the same person and I have never claimed to be an expert on anything.

". I know that they have nice stats in at least one category. 9a only has low ammo, Scorpion has low ammo and bad damage. When it comes to the TMP, it is a worthless gun outside of HMX."

Lol you're actually an egy, 9a has low ammo sure but it also has zero recoil. Any garbage player can pickup a 9a and frag with it, not just any garbage player can pickup an AK47 and be
instantly great with it.
No I am Swedish
It also kind of depends on the person using the weapon (about the ability of using an ak). I never said the 9a and scorpion EVO3 isn't great guns, I said, that it isn't impossible to overcome players using them. I say this because I am tired of people shutting down and say "Impossible to win", as soon as they see any of the "cheat weapons" or VIP. Instead they should adapt and keep on playing. Why do a lot of players these days have the "lie down and die, rather than fight" mentality? When I begun playing CF, people were calling AK-47 players cheats and noobs, because of it's HS abillity. After that it was the M12 and SCAR and so on and so on.
About the ping , lower ping is better in 100% of situations. I understand interp happens but that just comes with crossfire.
In 2 years we have discussed this here at the forums (probably longer, but I came back to CF only 2 years ago). I don't know why. I know it shouldn't happen like that, but it does. I can't explain it either. I am not alone in stating it, check back through the forum thereads from the last years and you'll see 100s of players saying the same thing. It doesn't always happen, but when it happens, it's always when you meet a player with around 100+ ping. It's almost exclusively happening at weekends or other times when the servers are pretty full. So something is clearly wrong.

You also think the TMP is worthless outside of HMX? the facts that you said HMX just shows how uninformed you are. Get your facts straight before you start posting on forums like you just sound stupid
I stand by my statement, as I have since I first tried a TMP, it's worthless. It's fast, but does bad damage. You move fast, but you do that with all SMG's. it's accurate at close to mid range and has JHP. It's basically, an ambush gun. Deadly if you are ambushed from behind in a 1-1 fight. Deadly if you are ambushed from front in a 2-1 fight. Almost any other SMG is better than the TMP overall (especially my favorite the SR3M). In HMX it's one of the most effective guns for hunting, though it eats ammo very fast. (I am not taking in consideration a player that has 6 Thompsons in the bag).

tienguyen wrote: »

I just want to make it clear, this JackPain guy doesn't even play ranked and honestly has no say in any of this.

Actually any forumer can have a say in any thread, as it is an open forum. And no, I only played rank seriously for one season to get the GR3, otherwise I see no reason to play serious in anyway. I have played ranked for Honour-Points, but with all technical problems ranked has, it's not worth the bother. I might join in some games, like last season, to just troll around for fun, but I do suck at S&D and I generally think it's too slow going. If anything is too slow, I can't relax, I just get impatient. TDM and FFA is more action and so is ZM, which is my favorite mode right now.

4StringBen

Painanator wrote: »

The AK-47 CFS (and the Anniversary, which is the same) is probably the best AK in the game when it comes to making easy head-shots. At least it is from all the AK's I tried (including all but the newest VIP). I am not including wallbang and other stuff like reload time, when I am talking about it being better than it's VIP counterparts. I am talking about the ease to kill multiple enemies before I die myself, from my own experience. (Yes I have PnP'd statistics to see which one was the best, before the new in game stats system) The CFS AK tied at No1, the Beast and Fury was 2 and 3.
.

So as you said, thats just your opinion about being the best gun.

Its a matter of fact that a whole team armed to the teeth with 9a´s, scorpion´s, tmp´s and kinetic´s can crush even a well trained team. Me and my friends play this game since 2010, we saw many of its up and downs, and we would consider ourself as a good team when we play ranked together. But those op smgs are shaking up the whole balance.

As many stated before, even a lowskilled player can get frags easily with these guns, and its not just the lowskilled players. Also high rank players, or players with some experience tend to use these guns.

I was strictly against using those guns, and so is my team. When I picked it up for the first time and started fragging, I really was shocked how op it is. Its insane.

Quake444

Painanator wrote: »

Yeah, as I said it's supposed to be like that, but it isn't. I know of interpolation, I just call it Ping-lagg (but I am old, so i use the terms we used). The problem is that it should give an advantage to the low-pinger but I haven't experienced that, in this game. The things I, and it seems, a lot of other players, have experienced, only seem to happen at that ping difference. Some that have 10-20 ping, have reported the same thing when they meet people with 70-80 ping. Something isn't right with CF's way of registering hits. But it's not consistent either, as it happens only about half the matches you play, meeting high pingers.

It might be a low to mid tier mentality, but I still say it, you can't call yourself a good-player if you can't adapt tactics after how an enemy acts (including weaponry). I see it as a fun challenge when I face someone better armed or higher ranked (or both), trying to poke a hole in their strategy.

As I know nothing about the competitive side of CF(I started playing CF because I didn't see it as a competitive game, so I could actually relax while playing), I have to ask (because of the competitive with 150 ping statement): Isn't all competitions done live, e.g. at a special place? So it's almost impossible to have that high ping in a competition. I ask, because when I played competitions, we had to be there or have those holding the competitions become more lenient, so you can compete from home these days. My last competition game, was before CF started, so I am kind of out of the loop.

Yeah that Lagg Damage Sponges are Real, if anyone has a 10-20 Ping and Gets Instant Killed from Guys with 60-150 Ping Players, just you need to get on a Server thats Far Away from you, when you get yourself such an High Ping, your gun Switch is Delayed, but you survive really more Hits,like i said it 8 Years Ago in CF Ingame, Crossfire is the only Game i know that benefits High Ping Players more then low Ping Players. Its funny when someone with a 120+ Ping Complains about low Ping Players, but theyre Running in the Game Arround without anytime using Sneaking Hotkey, and you can hear them half a mile Away.

What i even Recognized (at least for my what i felt) is that when someone is Actually felt Lagging for me when im having 19 Ping, and playing against 60-80 Ping Players it already feels like Damage Sponges, but what i mean with that what im feeling there is that the Hitboxes arent Right anymore (even they dont feel right anyways, often i shoot players in the Throat/Neck and only get 28-30 Dmg Counted) it feels you need to aim a litl bit forward in that Direction where hes running to to get a Headshot that gets Actually Counted as such, as example when he Running to the Right side, aim 1 Millimeter in front of that direction with an rifle instead directly to the Head.

Thats how i feel it, but like i said when i have an Low Ping when i get Hit from 1 Bullet it takes instantly over 50-60 Away (no Headshot) but i need to even hit the Head 5-10 Times until the Game really Recognizes it. But well the Game Codec hasnt Changed sinde the beginning, the game doesnt even starts in the Resolution you choose, it starts everytime in 800x600 resolution, and first changes it when you enter a Game, i even got a Crash when i went after Months back to Cf because of the Battle Pass, and the Error Message i got was "Run out of Memory" i have in my System Right now 32Gb of RAM, a Graphics Card, that can Play all Actual Games on Ultra Settings but i get such an Error Message on CF.....seems legit that the Problem will be my System... but yeah, when i Reach free Battle Pass for Famas G2 i will pause it again, sure from other FPS shooter my Aim is a littl bit better then it was when i only Played CF, but the Whole Lagging Game Mechanics, are just Annoying from my Sight.

Even a Friend of Mine told me over two Years Ago when he Paused CF for a Half Year that the whole Game Mechanic Ingame is "lame/lagging/delayed (whats best suiting for you)" and i didnt realized it since i never did Pause CF, but now after over 2 Months i can feel this slow/sluggish Movement,Interactions too, in Comparison to other Games.

And dont let yourself get triggered from someone, that says anything without Reading your Post before, you Wrote that you did Ranked only 1 Time for Master for the G3 Permanent, but he cant think far enough thats maybe a few seasons behind and Crossfire is only Tracking the Actually Active Ranked Season. For me there was no need after they Removed Perma Nades from Ranked, to try to get to Master Rank, simply i was already to Annoyed of Hackers in Regular Matches, and i dont wanted to wait for Minutes for a Match just to Face off Hackers, and need to try to Competetive against the Hackers for Months just not to lose the Rank Again.

Quake444

4StringBen wrote: »

So as you said, thats just your opinion about being the best gun.

Its a matter of fact that a whole team armed to the teeth with 9a´s, scorpion´s, tmp´s and kinetic´s can crush even a well trained team. Me and my friends play this game since 2010, we saw many of its up and downs, and we would consider ourself as a good team when we play ranked together. But those op smgs are shaking up the whole balance.

As many stated before, even a lowskilled player can get frags easily with these guns, and its not just the lowskilled players. Also high rank players, or players with some experience tend to use these guns.

I was strictly against using those guns, and so is my team. When I picked it up for the first time and started fragging, I really was shocked how op it is. Its insane.

Then Play a few Matches with 10-20 Ping against Players with 60-120+ Ping Players, then you need the Full Mag on him with only Hits to kill 1 Enemy because the Damage Regestration is just ****, and nope im not a Player that only Spams with TMP,EVO (Free Version) arround i never owned a TMP first the 10th Aniversary Edition was my First TMP and i Barerly used it, and i won the Scorpion Evo back in the Days when the Crate first Came in, and it was my Close Quarter gun when i saw People with Shotguns, and MPs only Running Arround, and i showed them thats not so hard with High Ping and Mp/shotguns to get Kills, even i needed full MP Clip to get himsince i dont have High Ping

Painanator

Quake444 wrote: »

Yeah that Lagg Damage Sponges are Real, if anyone has a 10-20 Ping and Gets Instant Killed from Guys with 60-150 Ping Players, just you need to get on a Server thats Far Away from you, when you get yourself such an High Ping, your gun Switch is Delayed, but you survive really more Hits,like i said it 8 Years Ago in CF Ingame, Crossfire is the only Game i know that benefits High Ping Players more then low Ping Players. Its funny when someone with a 120+ Ping Complains about low Ping Players, but theyre Running in the Game Arround without anytime using Sneaking Hotkey, and you can hear them half a mile Away.

What i even Recognized (at least for my what i felt) is that when someone is Actually felt Lagging for me when im having 19 Ping, and playing against 60-80 Ping Players it already feels like Damage Sponges, but what i mean with that what im feeling there is that the Hitboxes arent Right anymore (even they dont feel right anyways, often i shoot players in the Throat/Neck and only get 28-30 Dmg Counted) it feels you need to aim a litl bit forward in that Direction where hes running to to get a Headshot that gets Actually Counted as such, as example when he Running to the Right side, aim 1 Millimeter in front of that direction with an rifle instead directly to the Head.

Thats how i feel it, but like i said when i have an Low Ping when i get Hit from 1 Bullet it takes instantly over 50-60 Away (no Headshot) but i need to even hit the Head 5-10 Times until the Game really Recognizes it. But well the Game Codec hasnt Changed sinde the beginning, the game doesnt even starts in the Resolution you choose, it starts everytime in 800x600 resolution, and first changes it when you enter a Game, i even got a Crash when i went after Months back to Cf because of the Battle Pass, and the Error Message i got was "Run out of Memory" i have in my System Right now 32Gb of RAM, a Graphics Card, that can Play all Actual Games on Ultra Settings but i get such an Error Message on CF.....seems legit that the Problem will be my System... but yeah, when i Reach free Battle Pass for Famas G2 i will pause it again, sure from other FPS shooter my Aim is a littl bit better then it was when i only Played CF, but the Whole Lagging Game Mechanics, are just Annoying from my Sight.

Even a Friend of Mine told me over two Years Ago when he Paused CF for a Half Year that the whole Game Mechanic Ingame is "lame/lagging/delayed (whats best suiting for you)" and i didnt realized it since i never did Pause CF, but now after over 2 Months i can feel this slow/sluggish Movement,Interactions too, in Comparison to other Games.

And dont let yourself get triggered from someone, that says anything without Reading your Post before, you Wrote that you did Ranked only 1 Time for Master for the G3 Permanent, but he cant think far enough thats maybe a few seasons behind and Crossfire is only Tracking the Actually Active Ranked Season. For me there was no need after they Removed Perma Nades from Ranked, to try to get to Master Rank, simply i was already to Annoyed of Hackers in Regular Matches, and i dont wanted to wait for Minutes for a Match just to Face off Hackers, and need to try to Competetive against the Hackers for Months just not to lose the Rank Again.

I actually experienced a pretty weird thing today when playing FFA in the Greece map. On the long-side where there is a stair down to the water and a spawn-point between 2 containers/boxes at one end. I was coming from the side where the stairs to the water area is on the right and saw a player appearing at the other end. At the same time my dog nudged my arm, wanting to be petted, so I fired probably a foot or 2 to the right of his head and got a head-shot. Not the first thing I have experienced on that map either. I wish they could return the grenades to ranked, can't have enough grenades.

That out of memory error is strange, I haven't gotten it yet, luckily. From the beginning it seemed like it only happened to 32-bit users, but since it appeared, it spread to almost any system setup. Seems like bad-luck roulette.

I haven't played any other shooter since I begun playing CF again, the closest would be Fallout-4. I'll have to try and see if it feels sluggish for me too afterwards.

Quake444

Painanator wrote: »

I actually experienced a pretty weird thing today when playing FFA in the Greece map. On the long-side where there is a stair down to the water and a spawn-point between 2 containers/boxes at one end. I was coming from the side where the stairs to the water area is on the right and saw a player appearing at the other end. At the same time my dog nudged my arm, wanting to be petted, so I fired probably a foot or 2 to the right of his head and got a head-shot. Not the first thing I have experienced on that map either. I wish they could return the grenades to ranked, can't have enough grenades.

That out of memory error is strange, I haven't gotten it yet, luckily. From the beginning it seemed like it only happened to 32-bit users, but since it appeared, it spread to almost any system setup. Seems like bad-luck roulette.

I haven't played any other shooter since I begun playing CF again, the closest would be Fallout-4. I'll have to try and see if it feels sluggish for me too afterwards.

yeah thats what i mean the Skins/Chars arent Sync with the Hitboxes, at least what i experienced, and then even its luck which shot get counted from server regestration. I do not have 32 Bit Version, otherwise i couldnt use so much RAM, If i get the Famas G2, from free battle pass im gonna pause it for a few months again, i was Playing lately Call of Duty Warzone, thats a Free 2 Play Battle Royal game, and i spend rather Money in Full Games now then here in Zp with that Win Rates, i got more from Full Games out, but back to the Point i did Played 2 1/2 Months Arround Only Warzone, and after coming back, you can really feel the Delays in Everything even in just throwing Grenades, but yeah they dont want to change anything, so im rather spending my time in other Games, or even Try to Play older Games over Steam to 100% Achievements.

And since some Countrys get Benefited more when buying zp then others, i dont see any reason anymore to Pay 70 Euros for some Coupons, and temporary Stuff, but thats everyones elses choice

kikan1997

This is true. I played two games in Ranked mode yesterday and I came across a clan where everyone had a minimum of 150ping. What program are they using? how is this possible? I shot many times and -47 hp ??? . I had kill 0-7 and they were 9-0, 6-0, 5-0, these are balls. I turned off CF right away.

Painanator

Quake444 wrote: »

yeah thats what i mean the Skins/Chars arent Sync with the Hitboxes, at least what i experienced, and then even its luck which shot get counted from server regestration. I do not have 32 Bit Version, otherwise i couldnt use so much RAM, If i get the Famas G2, from free battle pass im gonna pause it for a few months again, i was Playing lately Call of Duty Warzone, thats a Free 2 Play Battle Royal game, and i spend rather Money in Full Games now then here in Zp with that Win Rates, i got more from Full Games out, but back to the Point i did Played 2 1/2 Months Arround Only Warzone, and after coming back, you can really feel the Delays in Everything even in just throwing Grenades, but yeah they dont want to change anything, so im rather spending my time in other Games, or even Try to Play older Games over Steam to 100% Achievements.

And since some Countrys get Benefited more when buying zp then others, i dont see any reason anymore to Pay 70 Euros for some Coupons, and temporary Stuff, but thats everyones elses choice

Yeah, I won't lay down any more money on this game, until they reverse the stealth nerfs of the ZM weapons.
It would be redundant to put more than 4gb ram in a 32b system, but someone here probably does it anyway. I don't understand why anyone uses 32-bit versions of windows anymore. In the beginning, there were some compatibility issues with many games and 64b, but that was fixed over ten years ago. I remember not being very happy when I was one of the optimistic people, who bought Vista 64B at it's release.

Quake444

Painanator wrote: »

Yeah, I won't lay down any more money on this game, until they reverse the stealth nerfs of the ZM weapons.
It would be redundant to put more than 4gb ram in a 32b system, but someone here probably does it anyway. I don't understand why anyone uses 32-bit versions of windows anymore. In the beginning, there were some compatibility issues with many games and 64b, but that was fixed over ten years ago. I remember not being very happy when I was one of the optimistic people, who bought Vista 64B at it's release.

I used until it wasnt supported anymore WIndos XP even when Windows 7 Came out i stayed with WIndows Xp until, they didnt bring any Support for it out Anymore, but yeah like i said, it isnt my PC Specs that arent good enough for this Game thats a Bug Caused by this Craps Coding, but reporting it into the Bug Found Thread brings nothing either, i posted a Bug over 1 Year Ago into there, and it still got no answer from a Mod that hes gonna redirect this Issue to a Gm or a Gm wasnt even able to answer it. i always had the feeling to get more and more of the guns, but nah i wont cash in until something drasticly will change, and since i know this Company since 2010/11 it wont change so they lost a long Costumer for them.


And where i said that i have 64 Bit version was, because you said it hapopend only to 32bit users, but if i would have this version i wouldnt be able to use the 32gb of Ram, so its a Bug Created by a Patch from them again....When theres not gonna be a Drastic overwork in the Good Way they wont see any Money from me more, alone Battle Pass, if you havent your 50% Bonus ZP you need to recharge arround 32 dollars to get it, even in Warzone you Can Buy a Battle Pass with 100 levels, that gives you at every level 1 Permanent Item until you reach level 100 then you get 4 things Permanent, for 10 euros (arround 9-10 dollars) so yeah, here its feeling for me a rip off that crossfire battle pass, but if the players want to get it for them they should get it if they want to, i rather stuck the money in Permanent Games, and or Equipment that holds me longer. but its everyone choices.

But back to the point like i said before this game is just laggy as hell, it gotten worse over the last 5-6 Years with every patch.even i would want to get a permanent g3 too, i dont have the nerves to play and hold that rank through

Baodao22222

none of you make any sense except karma and michaelxv205