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Do AFK Botters get banned from In-Game Report System?
Ever since that feature was added, I've come across a few players that would AFK bot the whole game (mostly in ZM and HMX).
I've reported those, since it is still considered cheating as it requires third party applications.
The thing is, I have not gotten any notification saying those people were banned.
So my question is... do they ban those kind of players in the in-game report system?
Or is it ONLY for hackers?
I've reported those, since it is still considered cheating as it requires third party applications.
The thing is, I have not gotten any notification saying those people were banned.
So my question is... do they ban those kind of players in the in-game report system?
Or is it ONLY for hackers?
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i've been seeing the same high rank afk botters for so long (at least 9 months) that at this point its safe to assume afk botting is legal lmao players dont really care about botters in HMX since all they do is provide free kills basically. probably thats why noone is reporting them and thus not getting them banned
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I think you have to report them via Complains/Violations as you do for foul language. But as there is no way to prove that they were AFK botting through it yet, I think it's meaningless. For HMX, FFA & TDM I don't care myself, but for doing it in ZM especially (and S&D ranked) they should be flayed with rusty cheese-slicers IRL, because their moral crime is heinous.
I have gotten no notifications for the people I have reported for cheating in ZM and they were not false-reports either. Killing bosses in a few seconds. So I think they choose to not care about some cheaters. I am not going to stop reporting them, but it would be nice to see them get banned too. Reporting in FFA is no problem, there it is fast and notifications always come some time after a report.JackPain (Sweden) -
Painanator wrote: »I think you have to report them via Complains/Violations as you do for foul language. But as there is no way to prove that they were AFK botting through it yet, I think it's meaningless. For HMX, FFA & TDM I don't care myself, but for doing it in ZM especially (and S&D ranked) they should be flayed with rusty cheese-slicers IRL, because their moral crime is heinous.
I have gotten no notifications for the people I have reported for cheating in ZM and they were not false-reports either. Killing bosses in a few seconds. So I think they choose to not care about some cheaters. I am not going to stop reporting them, but it would be nice to see them get banned too. Reporting in FFA is no problem, there it is fast and notifications always come some time after a report.
I have received message from support saying the in-game support is only for hackers as of now, so basically any other type of exploits won't work, but I don't think they would be considered "false reporting".
The ones I have reported are the ones that are really obvious (continuously spinning and shooting every couple seconds).
The only notification I ever received, I think, was from a guy I reported in SND who was aimbotting all around the place.
I just hope that in the future, they will start banning other type of cheaters with their new system. -
I never received any notification from AFK or Bot although I always see a lot of them in ZM + S&D when they have events for crate
so you also mentioned the new report system in the game does not work with them but it is dedicated to me Hack
about the opinion of Jack I do not think this may be long He received the notification because of the queue of the hackers, but I assure him that this system works well with the hackers in zm and anything else. -
Y0ungAngie wrote: »
I have received message from support saying the in-game support is only for hackers as of now, so basically any other type of exploits won't work, but I don't think they would be considered "false reporting".
The ones I have reported are the ones that are really obvious (continuously spinning and shooting every couple seconds).
The only notification I ever received, I think, was from a guy I reported in SND who was aimbotting all around the place.
I just hope that in the future, they will start banning other type of cheaters with their new system.
When i read your first message it made me wonder because i read a post that bots were illegal in 2018.
Maybe i should stop reporting if it does not count as hack.
I have seen high ranked accounts that are in clans who are bots.
What i don't like is the fact that you can only report one at a time and also have to wait 10 minutes before you can report again. ( Last room I was in had 3 bots ) .
It just goes to show that you need do nothing in these events to take part and the whole thing makes for a boring game. Trouble is,have you found many rooms without bots in? Hard enough trying to find a room in the first place sometimes.
Like you say though it is really obvious to see a bot when they are spinning on the spot and shooting every couple of seconds. If you are in a room and do not move then you are removed due to inactivity,but a bot is moving and shooting so that does not apply.
Here's to improvements to the new system. -
Pretty pointless imo.
1) AFK bot does not hurt anybody
2) You can be "botting" without even having anything
As I rarely play MM related modes - I find them kinda boring, but each person got different tastes right?
By simply pressing spacebar or moving every now and then while playing on my phone / doing other stuff. You can also do some mechanical "bot" - back in the day a friend of mine used fan combined with a ruler which bumped into spacebar hence making the illusion of a bot.
Would rather 10/10 times play in a room with a bot than with a hacker that wouldn't get kicked because people are not so clever to actually press f11.
Well Z8 could make things clear by stating their standing in this topic.
Personally won't bother with botting because what's the point in doing so - might as well quit the game if I won't play it... -
When i read your first message it made me wonder because i read a post that bots were illegal in 2018.
Maybe i should stop reporting if it does not count as hack.
I have seen high ranked accounts that are in clans who are bots.
What i don't like is the fact that you can only report one at a time and also have to wait 10 minutes before you can report again. ( Last room I was in had 3 bots ) .
It just goes to show that you need do nothing in these events to take part and the whole thing makes for a boring game. Trouble is,have you found many rooms without bots in? Hard enough trying to find a room in the first place sometimes.
Like you say though it is really obvious to see a bot when they are spinning on the spot and shooting every couple of seconds. If you are in a room and do not move then you are removed due to inactivity,but a bot is moving and shooting so that does not apply.
Here's to improvements to the new system.
Even when there is no events going on, I struggle to find any HMX room without any botters in them.
Yesterday I was on my alt account trying to finish my daily 30 minutes and my last room I joined, there was 8 botters in it.
I wrote all of their IGNs on my discord server so that I could report them on the website later, but I ended up forgetting to save replay... -.-
+1 to improvements to the new system.Pretty pointless imo.
1) AFK bot does not hurt anybody
2) You can be "botting" without even having anything
As I rarely play MM related modes - I find them kinda boring, but each person got different tastes right?
By simply pressing spacebar or moving every now and then while playing on my phone / doing other stuff. You can also do some mechanical "bot" - back in the day a friend of mine used fan combined with a ruler which bumped into spacebar hence making the illusion of a bot.
Would rather 10/10 times play in a room with a bot than with a hacker that wouldn't get kicked because people are not so clever to actually press f11.
Well Z8 could make things clear by stating their standing in this topic.
Personally won't bother with botting because what's the point in doing so - might as well quit the game if I won't play it...
Doesn't matter what's your reason to using third party applications to exploit the game, all players who do should get punished equally.
I know that there are ways to bypass the AFK system without any tool, you mentioned one way above, but you're still not physically there playing.
And I remember a GM once told me on discord that anything that can make it look like you're botting, even if you're there pressing space yourself every few seconds, is bannable. -
Doesn't matter what's your reason to using third party applications to exploit the game, all players who do should get punished equally.
I know that there are ways to bypass the AFK system without any tool, you mentioned one way above, but you're still not physically there playing.
And I remember a GM once told me on discord that anything that can make it look like you're botting, even if you're there pressing space yourself every few seconds, is bannable.
That sounds like some bs... But even if people do bot - they do no harm to anyone so I don't really care personally. Well of course given they don't do so in rankeds. That would get my blood boiling hot
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I agree that they are "cheating" in a way.
But if you are open-minded you should understand that by reporting them you put more work on GM (and you might say that "who cares, it's their job and they will do it"
sure, but you know how much they love work and how fast they are at implementing solutions around here), and they could use that time to review some other replays of real hackers (aimboters, wallhackers, etc) that ruin the experience of everyone.
They aren't damaging your game experience in any way (talking specifically about HMX here). You are annoyed because you don't do the same and you don't get the same rewards, but think of it like this: they let their bot run 24/7 for an event ---> RIP their electricity bill & RIP their CPU/GPU, everything has a price.
The only AFK bots that should get banned really are those who AFK in any game mode other than MM/HMX, especially in ZM where you CAN'T KICK them because that's where they STEAL FROM YOU, not from the game. -
Pretty pointless imo.
1) AFK bot does not hurt anybody
2) You can be "botting" without even having anything
As I rarely play MM related modes - I find them kinda boring, but each person got different tastes right?
By simply pressing spacebar or moving every now and then while playing on my phone / doing other stuff. You can also do some mechanical "bot" - back in the day a friend of mine used fan combined with a ruler which bumped into spacebar hence making the illusion of a bot.
Would rather 10/10 times play in a room with a bot than with a hacker that wouldn't get kicked because people are not so clever to actually press f11.
Well Z8 could make things clear by stating their standing in this topic.
Personally won't bother with botting because what's the point in doing so - might as well quit the game if I won't play it...
Do not hurt anybody? LOL, you know what is like to play a ZM and a guy joins and is a bot? Plus using bots i guess it requires ilegal programs. I know in mutation mode the bots can be good for other players but it's still not fair, while some have to play the game to get what they deserve, others just leave their accounts open with a bot 24/7 and get tons of EP and spins and god knows what else more.. In my opinion those who use the bots should get banned temporarily and lose their honarable soldier ribbon, and temporary bans should increase to a permanent ban if the same accounts keeps boting. -
Do not hurt anybody? LOL, you know what is like to play a ZM and a guy joins and is a bot? Plus using bots i guess it requires ilegal programs. I know in mutation mode the bots can be good for other players but it's still not fair, while some have to play the game to get what they deserve, others just leave their accounts open with a bot 24/7 and get tons of EP and spins and god knows what else more.. In my opinion those who use the bots should get banned temporarily and lose their honarable soldier ribbon, and temporary bans should increase to a permanent ban if the same accounts keeps boting.
On ZM it's problem, but not so big as u said.
About HMX and EP: someone has found the way to make that easier and you for no reason won't use it. It's kinda that stuff of studing when the teacher is late and you instead of calmly going for a walk and having fun, calls the teacher personally to find out where and when the lesson will be. The same as someone is driving like 70 mph, but allowed only 50, but he's not caught by police; but you are driving about 50 mph and whining about his 70. It's not cool. -
Andrew1798 wrote: »I agree that they are "cheating" in a way.
But if you are open-minded you should understand that by reporting them you put more work on GM (and you might say that "who cares, it's their job and they will do it"
sure, but you know how much they love work and how fast they are at implementing solutions around here), and they could use that time to review some other replays of real hackers (aimboters, wallhackers, etc) that ruin the experience of everyone.
They aren't damaging your game experience in any way (talking specifically about HMX here). You are annoyed because you don't do the same and you don't get the same rewards, but think of it like this: they let their bot run 24/7 for an event ---> RIP their electricity bill & RIP their CPU/GPU, everything has a price.
The only AFK bots that should get banned really are those who AFK in any game mode other than MM/HMX, especially in ZM where you CAN'T KICK them because that's where they STEAL FROM YOU, not from the game.
You're saying that I'm annoyed because I don't cheat? Lol, okay.
Sure, we both get the rewards, that's fine.
But I get the rewards knowing that I'm not at risk of getting banned.
I have 3 computers. I've already let one of them run at full capacity for almost a month from mining.
My CPU/GPU? They're fine. My electricity bill? I'm under contract which splits the total electricity used into all 12 months, equally.
So if anything, it will only increase my bill by like $15-20 monthly, which honestly I could careless about.
Also, to add to this, here is an example of how quickly it could be to ban AFK botters.
You have two 30 minutes replay, one of them there is a hacker in SND who is walling and doesn't make it obvious. You would need to watch him carefully and maybe sometimes more than once to come to conclusion that he is hacking. It would take a lot of time.
The other replay, on the other hand, has an AFK botter in an HMX room. You start the replay, watch him for a minute or two, he just does the same spinning and shooting, it's really obvious. Banned. Took like 2 minutes. -
Y0ungAngie wrote: »
You're saying that I'm annoyed because I don't cheat? Lol, okay.
Sure, we both get the rewards, that's fine.
But I get the rewards knowing that I'm not at risk of getting banned.
I have 3 computers. I've already let one of them run at full capacity for almost a month from mining.
My CPU/GPU? They're fine. My electricity bill? I'm under contract which splits the total electricity used into all 12 months, equally.
So if anything, it will only increase my bill by like $15-20 monthly, which honestly I could careless about.
Also, to add to this, here is an example of how quickly it could be to ban AFK botters.
You have two 30 minutes replay, one of them there is a hacker in SND who is walling and doesn't make it obvious. You would need to watch him carefully and maybe sometimes more than once to come to conclusion that he is hacking. It would take a lot of time.
The other replay, on the other hand, has an AFK botter in an HMX room. You start the replay, watch him for a minute or two, he just does the same spinning and shooting, it's really obvious. Banned. Took like 2 minutes.
No, read the whole thing: "You are annoyed because you don't do the same and you don't get the same rewards"
Your example proved my point: it takes way longer to ban hackers, which I consider way more important than someone who isn't destroying your game, so I'd rather have 1 more hacker banned instead of 15 AFK botters, ESPECIALLY IN HMX where they don't harm you in any way.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for banning them, but not when that means consuming time which could be used to ban hackers.
On ZM it's problem, but not so big as u said.
About HMX and EP: someone has found the way to make that easier and you for no reason won't use it. It's kinda that stuff of studing when the teacher is late and you instead of calmly going for a walk and having fun, calls the teacher personally to find out where and when the lesson will be. The same as someone is driving like 70 mph, but allowed only 50, but he's not caught by police; but you are driving about 50 mph and whining about his 70. It's not cool.
I'm not gonna comment on HMX and bots, just wanted to tell you that the speeding idiot could kill someone, how is that any "cooler" than "whining" (as you call it)? -
It seems to me that some people are actually OK with bots, well i'm not one of them, it's not cool, it's not fair and in some situations it bothers those who really are playing and trying to enjoy the game, let's be clear, it's a game and it's meant to be played, if you use bots you're either doing ilegal stuff or being unfair to all other who don't, i don't know what GMs or developers or the rules of CF say about it and i don't care because as far as i know, farm is not a good thing but still happeans and no one gives cr*p about it, meanwhile some players try their best to reach marshall while other can do it in 2 weeks if so.. i'm not OK with it and the practice of farm and usage of bots should be punished and its moraly wrong.
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IGN_Galaxy wrote: »Everyone started talking here. I think all bot should be added to the new system Report in the game Without exception [ZM] [HMX] [S&D] [TDM] [Farm Exp]. As saidin mentioned before
programs Bot is forbidden.
Exactly, but one thing is to say that it's forbidden, another thing is actually take action against the players who use them, i mean, it's allways the same players doing it and they keep doing it for months now, in public rooms, so my conclusion is that they're not being punished, i can assume only that it's because they bring profit to the company, most of these bots are high rank accounts with 10+ vip's, at least a warning for those who use these bots would be probably enough for them to stop, otherwise RIP honorable soldier.. I wish GM's would like to play the game they manage(or play more), they could immeadiatly take actions against those who clearly are not respecting the rules.. -
The in-game report system is for hack cases only and giving notification because the ban from it is perm...bans for "afk boting" is mostly for 3 days up to 2 weeks max and doesn't even remove the players hsr ribbon,you can't get someone permed for botting,because,well,it very frowned upon,like farming,people shouldn't lose their accounts just because they are trying to get some lame 2-3k ep on prime time or something similar,and if z8 weren't produce all of their events to be based on "bond the players to the game",then we wouldn't have such an issues.
Also there are "legit" ways to not get out of the game for idle even without using bot..like put their phone or something heavy on the enter button of their keyboard .
Try not to play mutation on weekends if it makes you bother so much =(((
And no I don't use it myself,I wouldn't use bot and risk my account with 35 vips for just some low amount of ep or laughable low amount of crates or whatsoever... -
Exactly, but one thing is to say that it's forbidden, another thing is actually take action against the players who use them, i mean, it's allways the same players doing it and they keep doing it for months now, in public rooms, so my conclusion is that they're not being punished, i can assume only that it's because they bring profit to the company, most of these bots are high rank accounts with 10+ vip's, at least a warning for those who use these bots would be probably enough for them to stop, otherwise RIP honorable soldier.. I wish GM's would like to play the game they manage(or play more), they could immeadiatly take actions against those who clearly are not respecting the rules..
They might actually do crackdowns. Nobody though they would do anything about the cheating/boosting in ZM before x-mas, but suddenly a lot of people were both temporarily banned and perm banned.JackPain (Sweden) -
Do not hurt anybody? LOL, you know what is like to play a ZM and a guy joins and is a bot? Plus using bots i guess it requires ilegal programs. I know in mutation mode the bots can be good for other players but it's still not fair, while some have to play the game to get what they deserve, others just leave their accounts open with a bot 24/7 and get tons of EP and spins and god knows what else more.. In my opinion those who use the bots should get banned temporarily and lose their honarable soldier ribbon, and temporary bans should increase to a permanent ban if the same accounts keeps boting.
A bit late to reply but my point was regarding MM and all these irrelevant and unrewarding game modes (HM, HMX and such) - It's given that by botting in rankeds you grief your team. Same goes for ZM.
Also what I had in mind was the fact that bots have been here for quite few months and I don't remember there being any warning/notice and so regarding botting. And considering the situation Z8 either does not care or plans something specific with report system (adding more options in the near future)
Regardless unless Z8 makes a public statement on this topic (eighter social media or forum) I highly doubt that the situation will change anytime soon... -
It seems to me that some people are actually OK with bots, well i'm not one of them, it's not cool, it's not fair and in some situations it bothers those who really are playing and trying to enjoy the game, let's be clear, it's a game and it's meant to be played, if you use bots you're either doing ilegal stuff or being unfair to all other who don't, i don't know what GMs or developers or the rules of CF say about it and i don't care because as far as i know, farm is not a good thing but still happeans and no one gives cr*p about it, meanwhile some players try their best to reach marshall while other can do it in 2 weeks if so.. i'm not OK with it and the practice of farm and usage of bots should be punished and its moraly wrong.
Take World of Warcraft for example - many people are multiboxing to farm and sell golds for RM - multiboxing is considered OK, but selling gold is obviously not. Yet it still happens all the time... -
On another note I kinda get where those people are coming from - Imagine having limited time on the computer - work or other stuff. You play - few minutes before the end you get random error as game is perma-broken. You lose all the playtime and EP (you have to finish the game in order to be awarded those)
But all it would take to make a massive stop to this would be announcement about this, add report option to the ingame system.
Random comment on Discord means nothing if it's not official... If this won't happen then nothing will change at all...
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