let the wallers kill the game

every room i enter, i have to play against waller, if i didn't play against wallers, my day will be bad LOL, let them play with wall, this is my second season that i didnt play ranked cuz of them, and no one like egy's anymore bcuz of that!, so please put an anti **** hack !

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  • Here a Real question how do you know they are Walling and not hearing you I'm asking this because I tend to play with a Headset so I can Pinpoint sounds and check my radar which allows me to find and Kill players you will be surprise how far i can hear someone footstep gunfire and reload sound.
  • Darkfiro7 wrote: »
    Here a Real question how do you know they are Walling and not hearing you I'm asking this because I tend to play with a Headset so I can Pinpoint sounds and check my radar which allows me to find and Kill players you will be surprise how far i can hear someone footstep gunfire and reload sound.

    That's what I have been saying to anyone complaining about wall (especially in ranked) for a while now. Sound-pinpointing, experience, guesswork and ping-lagg combined are probably the reason for most believing another player is using wallhack. In about 400 games, 2 seasons ago, I only met a handful of players, that couldn't be explained away by this. Still everyone was screaming wall, as soon as someone was doing a good game. If a total noob starts getting results that only experienced players usually gets, that's when you scream wall. But as we players are proud,arrogant and competitive, few will acknowledge that other players might be better.;):D:p

    But saying that, I do think there are more cheaters this season (can't say for sure, as I'm not playing in it myself). Probably because of the Jungle-Knife price for 250 wins.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • It a lot easier to spot a Waller as a Ghost or Shadow or in S&D sure there some area where players like to prefire but outside of those area if you pre fire at me while I'm outside your hearing range I will tend to test you by running in circle or hiding behinds walls and see if you shoot at me while i poke my body out for a few seconds. It funny when i catch ppl cheating in this case You can't really explain how you hear me or saw me (shadow mode) from across the map and contantly shooting at me when I'm invisible outside of your hearing range)
  • Darkfiro7 you sound like you know your stuff.

    Tell me how your radar helps you
    find and Kill players?

    The enemy players don't show up on your radar or...do they?

    What does the map have over the radar or are you talking bout the same thing / and if not how do you show your radar?

    ThanX.

    @ JackPain... L0L mmmmm
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    Darkfiro7 you sound like you know your stuff.

    Tell me how your radar helps you
    find and Kill players?

    The enemy players don't show up on your radar or...do they?

    What does the map have over the radar or are you talking bout the same thing / and if not how do you show your radar?

    ThanX.

    @ JackPain... L0L mmmmm

    I am constantly checking my radar in S&D so when I see an X appearing that means one of my teammates died in that spot, which tells me there is an enemy somewhere in that location. Map awareness can get you kicked most of the times, they think you are a hacker because you know where they are coming from.
  • Depends on the cheater. If you get a dumb cheater he’ll blatantly show it and play like he has a map. The cheaters with a brain are harder to spot especially if you’re not on their team to spectate. I remember this one guy few months back in Castle map, I like to play using my minimap, it’s the only way I play. So whenever my mates died I’d have an idea where the cheater might be. After few rounds of dying to him, the way he played was pretty much like he just set the “trap” and waited. Like team would die A, I’m b long going their spawn and out of nowhere his next to b door shooting at me. Hard to explain but it’s little things like that, prefiring nonstop, and if he has aimbot and you’re not listening to music, listen to the bullets hitting your head at no recoil. The smart cheaters turn that sht off and make it alternate from body to headshots makes it harder to spot.

    Rank is fun, my last season was 5, but couldn’t stand the cheaters.
  • It is better for you to stay away from playing ranked
    and wait for fix programs Hack
  • Darkfiro7 wrote: »
    Here a Real question how do you know they are Walling and not hearing you I'm asking this because I tend to play with a Headset so I can Pinpoint sounds and check my radar which allows me to find and Kill players you will be surprise how far i can hear someone footstep gunfire and reload sound.

    yea newbie account while he camp in base with sniper and kill you from base to base, thats a sound right ?

    i guess you didn't play against wallers or you just support them !
  • Painanator wrote: »

    That's what I have been saying to anyone complaining about wall (especially in ranked) for a while now. Sound-pinpointing, experience, guesswork and ping-lagg combined are probably the reason for most believing another player is using wallhack. In about 400 games, 2 seasons ago, I only met a handful of players, that couldn't be explained away by this. Still everyone was screaming wall, as soon as someone was doing a good game. If a total noob starts getting results that only experienced players usually gets, that's when you scream wall. But as we players are proud,arrogant and competitive, few will acknowledge that other players might be better.;):D:p

    But saying that, I do think there are more cheaters this season (can't say for sure, as I'm not playing in it myself). Probably because of the Jungle-Knife price for 250 wins.

    then read the replay to up there.

    and im not that noob to say waller every time i got killed, no! i say wall to someone who start shooting through walls and kill you while you are not even making any sound or anything, you just say "oh my god how did he kill me"
    and i wait 3 or 4 times to kill me to see if he is walling or he is just pro in newbie account :) !
  • ArkeologeN wrote: »
    every room i enter, i have to play against waller, if i didn't play against wallers, my day will be bad LOL, let them play with wall, this is my second season that i didnt play ranked cuz of them, and no one like egy's anymore bcuz of that!, so please put an anti **** hack !

    Let the wallers kill the game??

    They already killed not only the waller... Aimboters, speed hackers, no reloaders no recoilers.. do you want more
  • oSasukeXxX wrote: »
    Depends on the cheater. If you get a dumb cheater he’ll blatantly show it and play like he has a map. The cheaters with a brain are harder to spot especially if you’re not on their team to spectate. I remember this one guy few months back in Castle map, I like to play using my minimap, it’s the only way I play. So whenever my mates died I’d have an idea where the cheater might be. After few rounds of dying to him, the way he played was pretty much like he just set the “trap” and waited. Like team would die A, I’m b long going their spawn and out of nowhere his next to b door shooting at me. Hard to explain but it’s little things like that, prefiring nonstop, and if he has aimbot and you’re not listening to music, listen to the bullets hitting your head at no recoil. The smart cheaters turn that sht off and make it alternate from body to headshots makes it harder to spot.

    Rank is fun, my last season was 5, but couldn’t stand the cheaters.

    Nice find! It happened to me from time to time and I've always thought it was shady.
  • today i have reported 2 VIP wallers, one of them was honorable general with 4 stars :)
  • tem777 wrote: »
    today i have reported 2 VIP wallers, one of them was honorable general with 4 stars :)

    Reports dosen't works, this all system seems to not work, i have 40 reports.. And They still play under maps....its like western no rulz,Hacker against hacker.

    # IDK] Wow: This is hak battle WHOS WIN
  • ArkeologeN wrote: »

    then read the replay to up there.

    and im not that noob to say waller every time i got killed, no! i say wall to someone who start shooting through walls and kill you while you are not even making any sound or anything, you just say "oh my god how did he kill me"
    and i wait 3 or 4 times to kill me to see if he is walling or he is just pro in newbie account :) !

    Yeah, I'm not saying you are one of those screaming wall without cause, just that a lot of people do. I think people should be more careful when they report, as every false report takes the GM's time from banning the real cheaters. Personally I try to be extremely careful before reporting. Not reporting if a players "luck" can be explained away in any way. I know that some probably get away, when I am doing this, but I also now that the few I report, are 100% cheaters and to my knowledge, all have been banned.

    When people start sending 100 reports a week, the GM's probably also starts wondering if the reporter is serious. I wouldn't be surprised, if they start to ignore reports from that person, to save time from reading false reports.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • Painanator wrote: »


    When people start sending 100 reports a week, the GM's probably also starts wondering if the reporter is serious. I wouldn't be surprised, if they start to ignore reports from that person, to save time from reading false reports.

    GM's are the only persons able to ban cheaters, so isn't their job to invertigate every hacking reports? If they start ignoreing reports, they failed to their job. I dont belive they "ignore" some of reports. CF wont be a hack-free game ever.
  • buyaka334 wrote: »

    GM's are the only persons able to ban cheaters, so isn't their job to invertigate every hacking reports? If they start ignoreing reports, they failed to their job. I dont belive they "ignore" some of reports. CF wont be a hack-free game ever.

    The same can be said, if people keeps sending so many false or badly written reports, as the GM's are only a few in number. Report checking, is only a small part of their work. They simply won't have the time to answer all the reports they get in a week. It's common sense. But still, everyday you see new posts by impatient, overly-dramatic, childish idiots, wondering why their reports haven't been answered, constantly spewing hate and doomsday propaganda. The GM's do a lot of things we players don't like, but we players have also have a responsibility of acting better than most do in and around the game. What I would like to see are people being more careful when reporting. In first hand, only report the ones they are absolutely 100% sure of being a cheater = There is absolutely no other reason that player can play so good. That way, with far less reports, they can be handled faster and the cheaters numbers will drop more quickly.

    If you (all players) want the game to change, you should start changing the way you act your self first and not expect everything to happen magically without any effort from us players.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • Wallers ruining the game...in every room u can meet USELESS waller and no any one cant kick them. I am playing CF 10 years but this is horrible. Please...REPAIR IT!! :)
  • Painanator wrote: »

    The same can be said, if people keeps sending so many false or badly written reports, as the GM's are only a few in number. Report checking, is only a small part of their work. They simply won't have the time to answer all the reports they get in a week. It's common sense. But still, everyday you see new posts by impatient, overly-dramatic, childish idiots, wondering why their reports haven't been answered, constantly spewing hate and doomsday propaganda. The GM's do a lot of things we players don't like, but we players have also have a responsibility of acting better than most do in and around the game. What I would like to see are people being more careful when reporting. In first hand, only report the ones they are absolutely 100% sure of being a cheater = There is absolutely no other reason that player can play so good. That way, with far less reports, they can be handled faster and the cheaters numbers will drop more quickly.

    If you (all players) want the game to change, you should start changing the way you act your self first and not expect everything to happen magically without any effort from us players.

    To be fair, idk on which server you play, but the problems with cheaters, especially those from egyptian, are real. There are a lot of people on Delta who use cheats and get reported several times a day without being punished at all. Some of my reports weren't even replied at all and those are month's old reports. I'm constantly checking those peoples profiles if they got their honorable solder ribbon removed or not, But 0/6 were banned, even tho i've sent their profile link as well.

    Don't come up with some cheap excuses like "Headset, Map awareness, Sound PP and other stuff". I'm playing since 2009 and know my stuff pretty well. Calling me dumb would be like assuming i'd be some kind of person not capable to see the difference between a soundgamer and a cheater. After all i was playing ESL matches, Scrims, Pugs and other stuff at its peek, while it's mostly dead for now.

    However, the problem is obvious. The Anti Cheat System didn't get patched for years and we didn't get any explanation for this. Of course people get frustrated by that, especially by the amount of cheating people they have to face day by day on UK4/Europe Delta.
    People aren't kicking those, because either they don't understand. know how to kick or even didn't bother with that system in the first place. The lack of proper communication is another issue. Those people can somehow register an account, but can't properly communicate with other people outside their own country, which wasn't the case before EU players got IP restricted and forced to play EU instead.

    There are a lot of problems which didn't occure in the past, but do now due to some really bad business decisions for the game and the players.
  • To be fair, idk on which server you play, but the problems with cheaters, especially those from egyptian, are real. There are a lot of people on Delta who use cheats and get reported several times a day without being punished at all. Some of my reports weren't even replied at all and those are month's old reports. I'm constantly checking those peoples profiles if they got their honorable solder ribbon removed or not, But 0/6 were banned, even tho i've sent their profile link as well.
    


    what do you mean by that?

    so the only thing done when someone is a hacker they take his ribon away?

    i thought there should be a permanent ban for legit h@ckers


    badly written reports,
    

    what is the good way to write a report then?
  • To be fair, idk on which server you play, but the problems with cheaters, especially those from egyptian, are real. There are a lot of people on Delta who use cheats and get reported several times a day without being punished at all. Some of my reports weren't even replied at all and those are month's old reports. I'm constantly checking those peoples profiles if they got their honorable solder ribbon removed or not, But 0/6 were banned, even tho i've sent their profile link as well.
    


    what do you mean by that?

    so the only thing done when someone is a hacker they take his ribon away?

    i thought there should be a permanent ban for legit h@ckers


    badly written reports,
    

    what is the good way to write a report then?

    You can see if someone got banned by looking if they still have that Ribbon or not. If they don't have it anymore they're most likely banned already.
  • You can see if someone got banned by looking if they still have that Ribbon or not. If they don't have it anymore they're most likely banned already.
    

    but when people use h@cking the and its obvius and confirmed the rules say that there must be a permanent ban

    and they shouldnt appear in this list:
    [URL]http://crossfire.z8games.com/playerranking.html[/URL]
    

    i dont care about ribons if we are talking about h@cking and ban.

    H@cking is permanent ban.

    Last night i was playing ranked and the other player had the h@ck that when he see the head its auto headshot

    i said the following:

    Say greetings to your mother from me.

    he reply...

    You will be banned for offending me!

    and i was like WOW

    There is a saying that in the weekends there are no gm;s in discord so the h@ckers are raging that period.
  • Painanator wrote: »

    Yeah, I'm not saying you are one of those screaming wall without cause, just that a lot of people do. I think people should be more careful when they report, as every false report takes the GM's time from banning the real cheaters. Personally I try to be extremely careful before reporting. Not reporting if a players "luck" can be explained away in any way. I know that some probably get away, when I am doing this, but I also now that the few I report, are 100% cheaters and to my knowledge, all have been banned.

    When people start sending 100 reports a week, the GM's probably also starts wondering if the reporter is serious. I wouldn't be surprised, if they start to ignore reports from that person, to save time from reading false reports.

    im with you at this point ="When people start sending 100 reports a week, the GM's probably also starts wondering if the reporter is serious. I wouldn't be surprised, if they start to ignore reports from that person, to save time from reading false reports." but i do the same as you, keep watching them till they be wallers and these things, and you know i did 2 reports for 2 aim bot players, but they still didn't replay my msg till now since 2018 or 2017 idk, the point is, they use wall and everyone can see they way they play with wall, they even dont have brain to use wall very well, like they just wait and wait and wait, then they already know that there is someppl there and they shoot him.

    IGN- Arkeologe[N]
  • That's funny... Crossfire china removes 20+ hackers a day, and they have 5 times a larger community than us...
    Why is that?

    Because they employ more people to solve that problem...
    We need more GM´S... A lot more!!!

    I´m not saying that we need a GM for every player.. but for every 1000 players we should have 1 GM...
    That's expensive? Yes, it is...
    But don't come with bullsh...., they have a wallet enough to do that and even more...

    Last week I reported 5 hackers a day... that's 35 truly hacking players none of them was banned... And I'm just telling you last week...
    PS: All of them using AIM-ASSIST and iff anyone want proof just add me and i will show every player I reported are using hacks, EVERYONE OF THEM!

    I have 11pages full of hackers... Already reported, that's 110 hackers in ranked match... Yes, I only play Ranked...
    Guys, I did rejoin the game about 3 months ago, but I'm in this community for almost 9 years... I did lose my main account (*_*Taylor*_*) now I´m using my secondary account...

    Started to play right now, what was the first thing I got in a ranked match?

    Guess what!!! A HACKER!!
    YAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
  • [USER="26556685"]Nyumix3[/USER]
    You can't see if they are gone by looking at the ribbon. You only lose the ribbon for lesser offenses now. Cheaters are just perma-banned (when they do get banned). They do not answer hackreports and have stopped closing them too. Sometimes they do, but I have heard from many that the reports are not closed, even when a cheater was banned (this have been going on for at least half a year or so). Right now the only way to see if someone get banned, is to never see them in game again, so good luck to you all in keeping track of all players 24/7, that you believe are cheating. My tip is to report, and after that, to stop caring what happens. We players can't do anything more anyway and if you get to involved, you are just going to get more angry. I agree that they should upgrade the anti-cheat.

    [USER="26770775"]ArkeologeN[/USER]
    As I wrote above, I don't think they are closing and answering all hack-reports, even if they have been banned. For at least the time since we were transferred form EU, I have been hearing people saying that they don't always do that, and I have been seeing it my self, since last summer.

    [USER="27296432"]somesmoeu[/USER]
    I agree that we need more GM's. Preferably some in-game GM's that are actively hunting cheaters. I don't think they will hire more people though, Z8 is to concerned about profit to ease the burden of the GM's that are there now. I can't see why anyone is playing ranked for real now, since all problems it has. To me, the things you can win are not worth the aggravation.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • It was a neat detail to see when someone logged in the last time, but since this detail's gone we can only hope... imo one of the flaws of new profile pages.

    Speaking of ranking Matches. It is kinda worth but also just an optional thing after all, keep that in mind. No one forces you to play ranked matches. Yeah, the rewards are kinda nice for f2p players and show-offs, but in my particular case it's just to warm up instead. (Yes, go and hate me for warming up in rankeds instead, still gonna kick ***** and chew bubble gum. And i'm all out of gum). Ranking matches became more a thing of activity reward rather than actual comparison of skills.

    Anyways, b2t: You get an automatic response nowadays and that's it, which is kinda sad, but i'm understanding their actual situation of being overloaded with reports and work for now.
  • We can't play in these conditions right now... everywhere is full of them ... fcking hs
  • ArkeologeN wrote: »
    every room i enter, i have to play against waller, if i didn't play against wallers, my day will be bad LOL, let them play with wall, this is my second season that i didnt play ranked cuz of them, and no one like egy's anymore bcuz of that!, so please put an anti **** hack !

    The problem lies on the game side, not the cheaters. They are just opportunists.
  • @Painanator: . Right now the only way to see if someone get banned, is to never see them in game again, so good luck to you all in keeping track of all players 24/7, that you believe are cheating.
    Are you joker?
    How do we see him if he changes the login? I would like to be a hacker myself and pay every day to change login but for that I would have a lot of jewels, gatling zm, and will fast top ranked mode