The ranked mode is catastrophic
Hello,
We are currently in season 10 if we assume that each season lasts between 3 and 4 months it is about 3 years that the ranked mode exists on Crossfire. In 3 years I do not feel to have seen real change or evolution within this mode the only changes I saw PERSONALLY are:
Additions of new game modes, new cards and 1 new rank as well as different rewards related to this mode.
If we look at I see only additions but no corrective to the real problems of this mode that I recall the following: The hackers and the point system that has neither tail nor head. (There was the setting up of the #live_hack_reporting trade show on the Discord but it's far from enough to fill the problem)
To quickly return to the point system I have already discussed in another subject the problem is as follows: It is calculated in a completely random way and we are left with players who do not need to be good to have a high rank but simply spam the rankeds which is absolutely not normal. We are left with Grandmaster / Master level players unable to aim correctly or simply to know how to move on the map.
Solution: Recalculate this system of points and show the players how it is calculate we should not be in the blur about it is not normal and this function is ask since the beginning of the mode!
We can also talk about the ping problem of most players who are normally playing on the NA server that is found in game EU for no reason and who plays permanently with 130 pings.
Solution: Set up a system where NA players play with NA players, EU players with EU players and MENA players with MENA players and same for ES players not a mix to find games faster but that is absolutely ridiculous to play. I think the majority of players prefer to wait 3 minutes to find a correct game rather than take 30 seconds but to get 10 minutes of torture.
Access to the Ranked mode is just as bad. You have to be a lieutenant to get access (gold bar) I'm sorry but it also creates a problem and it allows hackers to access this mode too quickly.
Solution: You have to change it and pass it to the minimum rank of Major 2 OR Colonel, any user who spam the FFA using his hack will have time to level up Lieutenant and climb into the ladder before taking a ban by so raising the level would allow GMs to have more time to ban these players and therefore to see less in ranked because I'm sorry to say but most hackers are Lieutenant or Captain see even Colonel sometimes what is absolutely ridiculous again because a person without a VIP should not have time to climb to the rank of Colonel before being banned.
I made another topic that is available here: https://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/suggestions/6912935-replay-overwatch
That I invite you to consult (I will not speak here to avoid repeating myself.) After 22 days no response to this proposal from the GM what I find again quite surprising the establishment of the channel "Suggestions" on Discord aims to share the suggestions of players but also that GM / Moderators see them and yet the problem remains the same there is a real lack of communication between the GM and the community when these are really important topics. In addition, a response would make it possible to know if the subject was read by the GM and above all it would make it possible to know if the setting up of such or such thing is possible or not. (This is my personal opinion that does not mean that I am right.)
No preseason for this season 10 which comes out however after an update which also resulted in a lot of bugs and a loss of time / points quite consistent at the beginning of the season. No explanation on "Why no preseason?" no any compensation about this inconvenience the minimum would have been to offer an XP bonus during the week or anything that makes players understand that the staff is sorry for this inconvenience.
Solution: The introduction of a MANDATORY preseason after each season in which the GMs take into account the different remarks of the players about this mode in order to improve it leaves to reduce the time of the season.
I can understand that the GM can have a lot of work and a lot of pressure by the community but it is not the players to undergo this. If the problem is simply a lack of staff in the team and therefore an overload of work just recruit new GM or reorganize the different teams to make them more "effective". I am not an expert in this branch but I think that a team dedicated to everything would be more effective than a team that does a lot of different things.
And finally to finish I will remember that: "In total, CrossFire has grossed $ 10.8 billion in lifetime income, as of 2018." (We'll see for 2019 soon) but in view of the amount that Crossfire + generates, what CrossfireX will generate when it comes out it would seem that investing in a decent anticheat system would be the minimum because the current one is absolutely ridiculous. A person can chain a 60 headshots in - 1 minute without being disconnected from the game by cons if I open a Google Chrome page while I'm in the lobby the anticheat opens the page x-trap and forces me to disconnect from the game because I have a "suspicious program that has just been opened" is making fun of the world.
I hope this topic will have an answer from one or more GM or Moderators but also players because I think it takes reactions to the subject to be "big" and it is therefore taken into consideration by the GMs.
My nickname on the Discord is: RATIRL is human Tra..#7990 so I invite you to send me PM if you have any other complaints about the ranked system in general and I will try to make a synthesis of all that could be said in another subject at the end of the season (try to provide a solution to the problem is always better than just complaining and it helps to be better listen!)
(I tried to make the subject more or less readable for everyone because it is big enough if you have advice on the layout of the latter I would be very happy to take them into account!
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We are currently in season 10 if we assume that each season lasts between 3 and 4 months it is about 3 years that the ranked mode exists on Crossfire. In 3 years I do not feel to have seen real change or evolution within this mode the only changes I saw PERSONALLY are:
Additions of new game modes, new cards and 1 new rank as well as different rewards related to this mode.
If we look at I see only additions but no corrective to the real problems of this mode that I recall the following: The hackers and the point system that has neither tail nor head. (There was the setting up of the #live_hack_reporting trade show on the Discord but it's far from enough to fill the problem)
To quickly return to the point system I have already discussed in another subject the problem is as follows: It is calculated in a completely random way and we are left with players who do not need to be good to have a high rank but simply spam the rankeds which is absolutely not normal. We are left with Grandmaster / Master level players unable to aim correctly or simply to know how to move on the map.
Solution: Recalculate this system of points and show the players how it is calculate we should not be in the blur about it is not normal and this function is ask since the beginning of the mode!
We can also talk about the ping problem of most players who are normally playing on the NA server that is found in game EU for no reason and who plays permanently with 130 pings.
Solution: Set up a system where NA players play with NA players, EU players with EU players and MENA players with MENA players and same for ES players not a mix to find games faster but that is absolutely ridiculous to play. I think the majority of players prefer to wait 3 minutes to find a correct game rather than take 30 seconds but to get 10 minutes of torture.
Access to the Ranked mode is just as bad. You have to be a lieutenant to get access (gold bar) I'm sorry but it also creates a problem and it allows hackers to access this mode too quickly.
Solution: You have to change it and pass it to the minimum rank of Major 2 OR Colonel, any user who spam the FFA using his hack will have time to level up Lieutenant and climb into the ladder before taking a ban by so raising the level would allow GMs to have more time to ban these players and therefore to see less in ranked because I'm sorry to say but most hackers are Lieutenant or Captain see even Colonel sometimes what is absolutely ridiculous again because a person without a VIP should not have time to climb to the rank of Colonel before being banned.
I made another topic that is available here: https://forum.z8games.com/forum/crossfire/crossfire-barracks/suggestions/6912935-replay-overwatch
That I invite you to consult (I will not speak here to avoid repeating myself.) After 22 days no response to this proposal from the GM what I find again quite surprising the establishment of the channel "Suggestions" on Discord aims to share the suggestions of players but also that GM / Moderators see them and yet the problem remains the same there is a real lack of communication between the GM and the community when these are really important topics. In addition, a response would make it possible to know if the subject was read by the GM and above all it would make it possible to know if the setting up of such or such thing is possible or not. (This is my personal opinion that does not mean that I am right.)
No preseason for this season 10 which comes out however after an update which also resulted in a lot of bugs and a loss of time / points quite consistent at the beginning of the season. No explanation on "Why no preseason?" no any compensation about this inconvenience the minimum would have been to offer an XP bonus during the week or anything that makes players understand that the staff is sorry for this inconvenience.
Solution: The introduction of a MANDATORY preseason after each season in which the GMs take into account the different remarks of the players about this mode in order to improve it leaves to reduce the time of the season.
I can understand that the GM can have a lot of work and a lot of pressure by the community but it is not the players to undergo this. If the problem is simply a lack of staff in the team and therefore an overload of work just recruit new GM or reorganize the different teams to make them more "effective". I am not an expert in this branch but I think that a team dedicated to everything would be more effective than a team that does a lot of different things.
And finally to finish I will remember that: "In total, CrossFire has grossed $ 10.8 billion in lifetime income, as of 2018." (We'll see for 2019 soon) but in view of the amount that Crossfire + generates, what CrossfireX will generate when it comes out it would seem that investing in a decent anticheat system would be the minimum because the current one is absolutely ridiculous. A person can chain a 60 headshots in - 1 minute without being disconnected from the game by cons if I open a Google Chrome page while I'm in the lobby the anticheat opens the page x-trap and forces me to disconnect from the game because I have a "suspicious program that has just been opened" is making fun of the world.
I hope this topic will have an answer from one or more GM or Moderators but also players because I think it takes reactions to the subject to be "big" and it is therefore taken into consideration by the GMs.
My nickname on the Discord is: RATIRL is human Tra..#7990 so I invite you to send me PM if you have any other complaints about the ranked system in general and I will try to make a synthesis of all that could be said in another subject at the end of the season (try to provide a solution to the problem is always better than just complaining and it helps to be better listen!)
(I tried to make the subject more or less readable for everyone because it is big enough if you have advice on the layout of the latter I would be very happy to take them into account!
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Moderators are just players like you, our opinions won't do anything in terms of getting changes implemented into the game unfortunately.
I also don't really have an opinion on this, I don't play ranked, as my experience with it thus far left a sour taste, and I don't have time to play as much as my friends so I just don't bother generally. -
I understand what you mean but it allows at least to have the impression that the topics are well read after as in your case the mode does not concern you it's true that you can not really have an opinion but I tell myself that some Moderators play this game mode and have an opinion that can be like mine or so totally different and that's what I'd like to discuss! : ')
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About servers you can't force someone to play in Mena ot EU server and tbh 90%nowadays of CF community are arabs if they make arabs play in mena server we will find EU NA Latam server empty and it is a global game with different varieties , about ranked i agree with you to increase the lowest level that can enter ranked match but i think rewards are enough as first we got Ak,m4 plat .etc then we got new collection guns , and about GMs answers they may answer you when they come to their offices
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About servers you can't force someone to play in Mena ot EU server and tbh 90%nowadays of CF community are arabs if they make arabs play in mena server we will find EU NA Latam server empty and it is a global game with different varieties , about ranked i agree with you to increase the lowest level that can enter ranked match but i think rewards are enough as first we got Ak,m4 plat .etc then we got new collection guns , and about GMs answers they may answer you when they come to their offices
I'm not talking about forcing players to play on a particular server, but the system when looking for players for a game only takes players with a stable ping on their respective server. For example living in Europe if I want to play on the server NA I have 130 permanent pings so I do not play and so NA players are not found on rankeds in the EU servers since their pings is corrosive for the ranked. Because a player with 20 pings will always have the advantage over a player with 130 pings on the shots. My idea is that the EU players play with each other for the rankeds, NA like and MENA like and LATEM same or put them to a server where their ping remains stable (maximum 90 pings). Moreover, as you said most players are Arab so I do not see the interest of solo tag ranked to end up with Arabic speaking players when you do not understand a word of this language since you can not communicate with these same players because most do not speak a word of English. And I'm not complaining about the awards related to the ranked mode but simply because instead of giving or adding content the best way would be to start by correcting the problems of this mode. -
I'm not talking about forcing players to play on a particular server, but the system when looking for players for a game only takes players with a stable ping on their respective server. For example living in Europe if I want to play on the server NA I have 130 permanent pings so I do not play and so NA players are not found on rankeds in the US servers since their pings is corrosive for the ranked. Because a player with 20 pings will always have the advantage over a player with 130 pings on the shots. My idea is that the EU players play with each other for the rankeds, NA like and MENA like and LATEM same or put them to a server where their ping remains stable (maximum 90 pings). Moreover, as you said most players are Arab so I do not see the interest of solo tag ranked to end up with Arabic speaking players when you do not understand a word of this language since you can not communicate with these same players because most do not speak a word of English. And I'm not complaining about the awards related to the ranked mode but simply because instead of giving or adding content the best way would be to start by correcting the problems of this mode.
It will be too difficult to find a match as i mentioned most of players are arabs so it means their ping 60-110 so EU players and ES players will find a match every 30 min or more if they played against each other . Hope they find solution for this situation ( problems in ranked as you mentioned) like crashs and errors -
It will be too difficult to find a match as i mentioned most of players are arabs so it means their ping 60-110 so EU players and ES players will find a match every 30 min or more if they played against each other . Hope they find solution for this situation ( problems in ranked as you mentioned) like crashs and errors
Yep you are right it's difficult to find a solution about this problemAdamus89pl wrote: »Increase the lowest level that can enter ranked match to major or colonel. At least 95% of cheaters will gone. Do this also for the EU Delta server and every one would be happy.
I think it's maybe the better solution but many hackers have high rank too then that's just coud slightly reduce the problem but not completely correct it -
Hi. I agree with the majority of what you said, and I give great respect for your dedication to solve this. I'll responde to some thing I disagree or could be better implemented.
On the EU players playing with EU players and NA with NA, etc. I disagree because there are players from NA that have friends in EU and want to play with them and vice versa. Maybe there could be an option to find a group with all players being from your region, if that was to be implemented. An on or off thing.
On the acess to ranked, I could stretch it to maximum to First Lieutenant 1 or Captain 1. But major and colonel is just to high of a level for someone that legitely wants to play ranked. And remember this would cut down on the amount of players in ranked a lot! Ranked is probably the best most recent thing crossfire added, and in general its the more entertaining thing in many games. But having to level up being on the shoes of a new player, that would be so lame and tiring to have to play so many pubs to get the level.
I think they didn't wanted us to have to wait for season 10, so thats why there was no preseason.
On reporting cheaters: Players with a certain level(and/or ranked level), lets say colonel(and/or master+) could report a player on the room. Just like you can vote kick in pubs, you could report in the "ESC" menu. Thats WAY faster and more effective than the livereport, where you have to type it. Making you type it on the game, makes you AFK and takes time, you could loose a round, by the time you found out he is cheating, the match ended, etc. Have GM's spectate ranked matches, mainly high rank ones, and be able to see the chat, because normaly when someone is a cheater they type in chat about it.
I look forward see more posts from you and progress on the best way to solve this problems. Have a nice day thank you -
On the EU players playing with EU players and NA with NA, etc. I disagree because there are players from NA that have friends in EU and want to play with them and vice versa. Maybe there could be an option to find a group with all players being from your region, if that was to be implemented. An on or off thing.
About this part I only talk about the ranked games not to prevent players in the public match from playing together. After this set up seems too complex unless servers are installed at more location but it will not happen.On the acess to ranked, I could stretch it to maximum to First Lieutenant 1 or Captain 1. But major and colonel is just to high of a level for someone that legitely wants to play ranked. And remember this would cut down on the amount of players in ranked a lot! Ranked is probably the best most recent thing crossfire added, and in general its the more entertaining thing in many games. But having to level up being on the shoes of a new player, that would be so lame and tiring to have to play so many pubs to get the level.
To begin, I want to remind you that the goal of a classified game is to know the game well before you venture there. To take the example of the game League of Legends you must be level 30 before having access to this mode and it is usually quite long before you get there so as to have a basic minimum on the game. It's too easy to remember that every week-end there is 200% XP and 800% bonuses which makes leveling very easy on Crossfire. The number of ranked players matters little at the moment because most players coming into this mode once the level is reached are hackers therefore they are statistics distorted. In addition I think it is better to wait 3 minutes to find a game with 10 players legit 30 seconds to end up with 3 hackers in a game.I think they didn't wanted us to have to wait for season 10, so thats why there was no preseason.
Looks like a bad reason i prefer to wait 1 month and got a good season begin than don't wait and got a trash early season.On reporting cheaters: Players with a certain level(and/or ranked level), lets say colonel(and/or master+) could report a player on the room. Just like you can vote kick in pubs, you could report in the "ESC" menu. Thats WAY faster and more effective than the livereport, where you have to type it. Making you type it on the game, makes you AFK and takes time, you could loose a round, by the time you found out he is cheating, the match ended, etc. Have GM's spectate ranked matches, mainly high rank ones, and be able to see the chat, because normaly when someone is a cheater they type in chat about it.
This solution is not really optimal. For 2 reasons: The first means that it would create too many inequalities since a Platinum player should have as much right as a Master player to report a hacker this way, and the second: Workload for GM because this way is not optimized. In all cases generally when you play against a hacker the game is lost in advance so it does not matter to be AFK 1 or 2 rounds time to report on the Discord. To bounce on your proposal I think that a button "Report" should be present during the game when you press "TAB" next to the name of the player with a window and check boxes to say what are the cheats used by the hacker, moreover it would undoubtedly motivate the players to postpone the hackers because the current process is too long and painful to simply report 1 must go to the website, connect etc etc and after a while the People stop because they do not feel that hackers are banned and find it a waste of time.I look forward see more posts from you and progress on the best way to solve this problems. Have a nice day thank you
Thank you, I hope, however, that I do not need to make too many posts about it on the forum at least about the negatives of the mode. When I no longer need to talk about these problems it will mean that the ranked mode will be clean. Have a nice day too
In addition about your solution for report i send you back to this post where i think i give the actual better solution to help GM with hackers time to have a real anticheat system : https://forum.z8games.com/forum/cros...play-overwatch -
I have another suggestion for the ' ranked/public in weekend crisis' . Maybe hire some trust-worthy players/MODs and let them have higher privelege to block the very recognized cheaters for 2:3 days ' the period of weekend/off days for GMs" -such as ( blatantly walling / underground / aimbotting etc..) till they get reviewed by the GMs (at their office days) who shall ban them or whatever punishment they will give, and whoever abuses the privelege gets punished.
Note: I know that it's very difficult to give that privelege to a player or a MOD , but sadly since cheats/hacking programs are various and almost unstoppable for the In-game anticheat aka' XIGN CODE ' that puts so much effort on GMs to ban cheaters. -
Hey,
I was so frustrated after playing ranked today that I was thinking of suggesting that the minimum level requirement for ranked should be raised, and actual players who are active in ranked and who have a highly accurate reporting history (above 90% live report catch in their role as captain or an effective hacking report history) could be asked to help in-game on ranked by say suspending accounts who are obviously hacking until a GM is online to approve it. As these players will be in constant communication with the GMs, they couldn't or should be chosen from people who wouldn't abuse their role. At least maybe then, the hackers in ranked wouldn't be so ridiculously obvious and shameless about it. While going through suggestions I saw Pasta shared your post, and I read every word of it with genuine awe.
Thank you for being so particularized about this topic! I wanted to quote the parts I agreed with the most, but I would have to copy-paste the whole post here. I, as a player who shares your feelings, truly appreciate you for taking the time to come with solid suggestions.We can also talk about the ping problem of most players who are normally playing on the NA server that is found in game EU for no reason and who plays permanently with 130 pings.
Solution: Set up a system where NA players play with NA players, EU players with EU players and MENA players with MENA players and same for ES players not a mix to find games faster but that is absolutely ridiculous to play. I think the majority of players prefer to wait 3 minutes to find a correct game rather than take 30 seconds but to get 10 minutes of torture.
When I'm playing, the hardest people to shoot are the ones with permanent 100+ ping. Lag just makes them tank. I should be able to choose not to play with NA or MENA players especially in ranked where it makes a difference. Mixed teams should be only accessed when searching range widened (not rank-wise but location-wise).Access to the Ranked mode is just as bad. You have to be a lieutenant to get access (gold bar) I'm sorry but it also creates a problem and it allows hackers to access this mode too quickly.
Solution: You have to change it and pass it to the minimum rank of Major 2 OR Colonel, any user who spam the FFA using his hack will have time to level up Lieutenant and climb into the ladder before taking a ban by so raising the level would allow GMs to have more time to ban these players and therefore to see less in ranked because I'm sorry to say but most hackers are Lieutenant or Captain see even Colonel sometimes what is absolutely ridiculous again because a person without a VIP should not have time to climb to the rank of Colonel before being banned.
I want to buy you coffee for finding the words to my feelings. The minimum rank should really be Colonel at the least.No preseason for this season 10 which comes out however after an update which also resulted in a lot of bugs and a loss of time / points quite consistent at the beginning of the season. No explanation on "Why no preseason?" no any compensation about this inconvenience the minimum would have been to offer an XP bonus during the week or anything that makes players understand that the staff is sorry for this inconvenience.
Solution: The introduction of a MANDATORY preseason after each season in which the GMs take into account the different remarks of the players about this mode in order to improve it leaves to reduce the time of the season.
I also find it weird that rarely questions like these are answered after in-game issues.I can understand that the GM can have a lot of work and a lot of pressure by the community but it is not the players to undergo this. If the problem is simply a lack of staff in the team and therefore an overload of work just recruit new GM or reorganize the different teams to make them more "effective". I am not an expert in this branch but I think that a team dedicated to everything would be more effective than a team that does a lot of different things.
And finally to finish I will remember that: "In total, CrossFire has grossed $ 10.8 billion in lifetime income, as of 2018." (We'll see for 2019 soon) but in view of the amount that Crossfire + generates, what CrossfireX will generate when it comes out it would seem that investing in a decent anticheat system would be the minimum because the current one is absolutely ridiculous. A person can chain a 60 headshots in - 1 minute without being disconnected from the game by cons if I open a Google Chrome page while I'm in the lobby the anticheat opens the page x-trap and forces me to disconnect from the game because I have a "suspicious program that has just been opened" is making fun of the world.
Again, I agree with you that tasks should have their own teams, even with everyone aware of the other task forces, every team should have one task that they are dedicated to.
They should have invested more in anticheat systems 7 years ago. If they had, everyone who likes FPS games would be playing this rather than any other game.
I really hope your suggestions are taken into consideration.
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It is a waste of our time on such topics. Because they are being poured anyway. From the beginning of this season, the same people are playing cheats and they do not care, because they will not be punished anyway. In this way there are more and more of them. Afk bot has long become legal we are waiting only for wallers. I just want to laugh, I want nothing more;) Z8 is a big company with a big budget and does nothing. Cheats are available on YT for funny money. I no longer care about people who use cheats. I play for myself and my fun;)
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