black market winning rate
can not believe that spinned 950 ZP crates which was collecting long time and win only 2 permanent weapons,
i know that someone is lucky and someone is not.
but it is abnormal this rate of win.
maybe changing something in system?
we need even 1 permanent weapon at least on 100-150 spins.
this will be fair.
but when i spin 950 ZP crates and there is only 2 perm. weapon......i don't know.
somone think that it depends only on our lucky?
plus there is small limit on coupons.
i know that game masters extend it from 150 to 200.
but it is still very small limit.
now i have all permn. weapons from coupons.
and +up to 170 coupons.
and now what should i do when i reach 200 coupons? wait 1 year when it will be changed to different guns? and did not spin crates?
or buy something that i dont want?
i know that someone is lucky and someone is not.
but it is abnormal this rate of win.
maybe changing something in system?
we need even 1 permanent weapon at least on 100-150 spins.
this will be fair.
but when i spin 950 ZP crates and there is only 2 perm. weapon......i don't know.
somone think that it depends only on our lucky?
plus there is small limit on coupons.
i know that game masters extend it from 150 to 200.
but it is still very small limit.
now i have all permn. weapons from coupons.
and +up to 170 coupons.
and now what should i do when i reach 200 coupons? wait 1 year when it will be changed to different guns? and did not spin crates?
or buy something that i dont want?
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Maybe see thiw change soon about your phrase that some one lucky and another not it isn't true all players have the same chance to get rare items also there is an achievement if you buy 70 crate with zp inside the game your win rate will be improved
i had that archovement already but not full.
i think this thing does not matter,and does not effect on wining rate.
before my lucky was normal.
i mean i always winning at least 1 per. weapon in 100 crates.
maybe some buged update? -
Hello there, lately I have notice that ZP crates rate is somehow tied to how many crates you spin (from the same ZP crate type), so having 950 ZP crates from different types will reduce your chance of getting the perm item of a particular zp crate type. Of course this is just a theory. We have discussed this over Discord and we all agree that around 100-150 ZP crates spun should give you at least 1 perm item.
I'm planning to open all my ZP crates gathered from events on Black Friday, I have around 1.2K ZP crates and will let all of you know what was the result (in terms of permanent items won).
Also, I think the limit 200 coupons is OK, we know they don't update this as regular as we want but I think its more than enough, once you have all the permanent items from coupons you can exchange other useful items like Unlimited ZM mag, temporal Bags or other things, even 2 or more from the best permanent weapon, this is up to you.
If you can share the crate types you had from the 950, will help me to continue the investigation of my theory. -
Hello there, lately I have notice that ZP crates rate is somehow tied to how many crates you spin (from the same ZP crate type), so having 950 ZP crates from different types will reduce your chance of getting the perm item of a particular zp crate type. Of course this is just a theory. We have discussed this over Discord and we all agree that around 100-150 ZP crates spun should give you at least 1 perm item.
I'm planning to open all my ZP crates gathered from events on Black Friday, I have around 1.2K ZP crates and will let all of you know what was the result (in terms of permanent items won).
Also, I think the limit 200 coupons is OK, we know they don't update this as regular as we want but I think its more than enough, once you have all the permanent items from coupons you can exchange other useful items like Unlimited ZM mag, temporal Bags or other things, even 2 or more from the best permanent weapon, this is up to you.
If you can share the crate types you had from the 950, will help me to continue the investigation of my theory.
Literally anything else in the coupon exchange is simply not worth it. Unlimited ZM mag, bags, etc, those may all be useful but not when they last 7-30 days not to mention bags can be acquired permanently. Trading 10 coupons for an item that lasts 7 days is simply not a very desirable exchange. Who would want any of that when there are permanent weapons? Changing up the coupon line up once a year basically ensures that many players won't be opening crates for the rest of the year once they get all the weapons, even if new collections come out. -
Hello there, lately I have notice that ZP crates rate is somehow tied to how many crates you spin (from the same ZP crate type), so having 950 ZP crates from different types will reduce your chance of getting the perm item of a particular zp crate type. Of course this is just a theory. We have discussed this over Discord and we all agree that around 100-150 ZP crates spun should give you at least 1 perm item.
I'm planning to open all my ZP crates gathered from events on Black Friday, I have around 1.2K ZP crates and will let all of you know what was the result (in terms of permanent items won).
Also, I think the limit 200 coupons is OK, we know they don't update this as regular as we want but I think its more than enough, once you have all the permanent items from coupons you can exchange other useful items like Unlimited ZM mag, temporal Bags or other things, even 2 or more from the best permanent weapon, this is up to you.
If you can share the crate types you had from the 950, will help me to continue the investigation of my theory.
hello.
why do you opening it on black friday? wining rate is higher on that day?
that crates was from all last events we had last months. don't remember all.
some of thenm was75 (spider), 50, 45, 40, 30, also many of crates was 10. an so on.
i know what are you talking about.
but same is in GP market.
i spend 3.500 000 GP and noone perm. weapon.
all of them i spinned 100 times at once.
in new update the win rate is decreased,
how i guess they changed coupon weapons + limit and knew that all palyers will spin many of crates this time.
and thats why was decreased the level of winning. -
hello.
why do you opening it on black friday? wining rate is higher on that day?
that crates was from all last events we had last months. don't remember all.
some of thenm was75 (spider), 50, 45, 40, 30, also many of crates was 10. an so on.
i know what are you talking about.
but same is in GP market.
i spend 3.500 000 GP and noone perm. weapon.
all of them i spinned 100 times at once.
in new update the win rate is decreased,
how i guess they changed coupon weapons + limit and knew that all palyers will spin many of crates this time.
and thats why was decreased the level of winning.
I feel the winning rate is the same as always, really bad in CF West TBH.
Within the theory I have mentioned above I also believe there is a higher chance to get the perm item whenever there are more people spinning at the same time (and even better if they are spinning the same type of crate), so Black Friday event is the best time to do it, that's why I will open all of them that particular day. It's just my theory, don't take it as an official statement. I will let you know how good it was (how many perm items).
I also read in Discord that player Formatikk opened over 3K ZP crates (assorted types) on November 14th 2019 and won only 18 permanent weapons from all of them. Its something about every 200 ZP crates for 1 permanent item. -
NiceParrot wrote: »
Literally anything else in the coupon exchange is simply not worth it. Unlimited ZM mag, bags, etc, those may all be useful but not when they last 7-30 days not to mention bags can be acquired permanently. Trading 10 coupons for an item that lasts 7 days is simply not a very desirable exchange. Who would want any of that when there are permanent weapons? Changing up the coupon line up once a year basically ensures that many players won't be opening crates for the rest of the year once they get all the weapons, even if new collections come out.
Well yes, this may be your perception (which is NOT wrong), but this is what we have as of now, we also know the change coupons weapons 1 or 2 time in a year, so this gives you a good chance to plan the best way of spinning crates and exchange the coupons. Remember that at the end, coupons weapons system is a Bonus for us.
So dont rush to open all the crates if you are not planning to exchange anything else from coupon weapons. The wait really worth it. -
I feel the winning rate is the same as always, really bad in CF West TBH.
Within the theory I have mentioned above I also believe there is a higher chance to get the perm item whenever there are more people spinning at the same time (and even better if they are spinning the same type of crate), so Black Friday event is the best time to do it, that's why I will open all of them that particular day. It's just my theory, don't take it as an official statement. I will let you know how good it was (how many perm items).
I also read in Discord that player Formatikk opened over 3K ZP crates (assorted types) on November 14th 2019 and won only 18 permanent weapons from all of them. Its something about every 200 ZP crates for 1 permanent item.
18 perm. guns from 3K crates is the wey better than my lucky
yea, please let me know after black friday how much per. weapons will you win. -
i had that archovement already but not full.
i think this thing does not matter,and does not effect on wining rate.
before my lucky was normal.
i mean i always winning at least 1 per. weapon in 100 crates.
maybe some buged update?
I don't think so tbh it is only luck nothing else and as i mentioned you can improve your luck with this achievement -
Well yes, this may be your perception (which is NOT wrong), but this is what we have as of now, we also know the change coupons weapons 1 or 2 time in a year, so this gives you a good chance to plan the best way of spinning crates and exchange the coupons. Remember that at the end, coupons weapons system is a Bonus for us.
So dont rush to open all the crates if you are not planning to exchange anything else from coupon weapons. The wait really worth it.
Well yes, of course, as a player I'm going to save my crates once I have all the coupon weapons. But what I said earlier was merely coming from a business point of view. It just seems so strange that Z8 would motivate players to stop opening crates due to no other viable coupon rewards and coupon weapons that refresh once a year. -
NiceParrot wrote: »
Well yes, of course, as a player I'm going to save my crates once I have all the coupon weapons. But what I said earlier was merely coming from a business point of view. It just seems so strange that Z8 would motivate players to stop opening crates due to no other viable coupon rewards and coupon weapons that refresh once a year.
Most of the players dont care about the coupons, once they see a ZP crate they want they will just buy and open them in the hope for a permanent win. At least is how I see it. -
we need even 1 permanent weapon at least on 100-150 spins.
this will be fair.
That is still too much in my opinion. I'd rather get a VIP wep. That's why I always say that I miss EU black market so much...
GP BM as well, I got the D.E. Canadian but boy... it is worth 2.500.000GP. -
lmao, facts - I dont know about buying all those ZP crates, i appreciate the events that gift them - besides that I'll usually pass. I'm not one to gamble..
I agree with other posts though, probably makes most sense to save your ZP purchases/refills up (especially bonus weekends) and just buy yourself a nice VIP weapon. Economically speaking, it'll probably be the most desirable outcome. GM's have already pretty much said that it is what it is (just random chance) and they're standing on that..
Ideally, if you went to a casino and played slots - would you try to convince the house that so many spins should automatically call for a jackpot? Definitely not..
Don't get me wrong, I have sympathy for you guys though - I'd just re-evaluate how much it's worth. -
That is still too much in my opinion. I'd rather get a VIP wep. That's why I always say that I miss EU black market so much...
GP BM as well, I got the D.E. Canadian but boy... it is worth 2.500.000GP.
Well... seeing current events, it will be very easy to stack more than 100 crates. You dont have to actually spend real money $$ to get them. -
lmao, facts - I dont know about buying all those ZP crates, i appreciate the events that gift them - besides that I'll usually pass. I'm not one to gamble..
I agree with other posts though, probably makes most sense to save your ZP purchases/refills up (especially bonus weekends) and just buy yourself a nice VIP weapon. Economically speaking, it'll probably be the most desirable outcome. GM's have already pretty much said that it is what it is (just random chance) and they're standing on that..
Ideally, if you went to a casino and played slots - would you try to convince the house that so many spins should automatically call for a jackpot? Definitely not..
Don't get me wrong, I have sympathy for you guys though - I'd just re-evaluate how much it's worth.
You can’t compare bm to casino since bm win rate exist and easily changeable. China has a loot crate law forcing game developers to reveal the rates because of people getting too addicted and spending their whole money on them. Not sure if cf China has it but I’ve read some developers have found a workaround so they don’t have to reveal the rates. I’ve never used zp for crates because it’s better to just buy vip and not get ripped off by bs odds. Other games have win rates and it’s not 100% guaranteed you’ll get that item in x amount but it gives you the ball park so you know going in if it’s worth it or not. -
so you are going to spin your crates tomorrow?
Yes, I spun my crates finally, here is the complete report buddy:
Crates bought from Black Friday:
253 Glorious Phoenix Mega Crate A (+47 crates I have in my storage for a total of 300)
200 Golden Peony Mega Crate A
Total crates from black friday opened: 500
Wins: 2x Wide Nade Glorious Phoenix, 2x AK-47-S Glorious Phoenix, 1x HK-417-S Peony
Crates from past events:
80 Zodiac Summer
78 Jade
75 Red Spider Web Set
48 Blue Sapphire
48 Kriss AK Halloween
45 Burnt Metal
106 Burning Shot
69 Rose
63 Flare
60 Tactical Camo
55 AWM Magma
52 Rebel Life
33 ZM Special
31 Old But Gold
30 Sagittarius Eagle
30 Octagon Camo
30 Ronove
30 Frontline
30 AK Armory
30 Rio Collection
28 Zombie Tesla
24 Spring
20 Bronze
20 Hearts
20 Purple Green
22 Late Summer Noble
10 Ice Blade
Total crates from event opened: 1,167
Wins: 1x B.C. Axe Red Spider Web, 1x 9A91 Ultimate Goldsmith, 1x Mauser Libra, 1x PPSH-41 Purple Green, 1x AK.47 Blue Pottery
Total Wins: 10 Permanent Weapons in 1,667 crates
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Yes, I spun my crates finally, here is the complete report buddy:
Crates bought from Black Friday:
253 Glorious Phoenix Mega Crate A (+47 crates I have in my storage for a total of 300)
200 Golden Peony Mega Crate A
Total crates from black friday opened: 500
Wins: 2x Wide Nade Glorious Phoenix, 2x AK-47-S Glorious Phoenix, 1x HK-417-S Peony
Crates from past events:
80 Zodiac Summer
78 Jade
75 Red Spider Web Set
48 Blue Sapphire
48 Kriss AK Halloween
45 Burnt Metal
106 Burning Shot
69 Rose
63 Flare
60 Tactical Camo
55 AWM Magma
52 Rebel Life
33 ZM Special
31 Old But Gold
30 Sagittarius Eagle
30 Octagon Camo
30 Ronove
30 Frontline
30 AK Armory
30 Rio Collection
28 Zombie Tesla
24 Spring
20 Bronze
20 Hearts
20 Purple Green
22 Late Summer Noble
10 Ice Blade
Total crates from event opened: 1,167
Wins: 1x B.C. Axe Red Spider Web, 1x 9A91 Ultimate Goldsmith, 1x Mauser Libra, 1x PPSH-41 Purple Green, 1x AK.47 Blue Pottery
Total Wins: 10 Permanent Weapons in 1,667 crates
Really nice dude congrats, 1 item per 100 crates is sweet
2 wide grenades thats awesome, I wanted to take my chances on this crate too but figured buying the armored package for the grenade is probably wiser lol. Guess im not a true gambler
anyways, i hope ill be as lucky as you and get my spas 12 slug and ak47 renovo
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