clean the game

question is repeated and repeated when will see a clean game is not difficult to clean the game from hacker can find better solutions :mad: i cant even imagine that we will see the end and do not want to see anyone tell me go and report hackers because the whole system have to change why i only allowed 3 notifications per day
We have reached the stage we see 7 and sometimes 8 hackers in one ranked game or tdm they fly they walk under ground so
Pathetic last 2 days every room in cf must have hackers and no 1 care even the players :mad:

Comments

  • This is how it works:

    Developers make a new anti-hack, it works for some time, then hackers finds a new way to hack, after a while developers make a new anti-hack that works, and on and on and on it goes.
    It is the same thing with anti-virus and virus-makers.

    The game will never be completely clean. It's just a matter of better and worse periods.
    It's not something that is only happening in CF, but in all (Yes all) games. Even those that has the best anti-hack software and best developers, will still continuously have to fight the hackers, some get in, some don't.

    There is no universal solution. If people want to do something really bad, they will do it, no matter the difficulties. It's just a matter of time.
    It's sad, but I don't think this will ever change.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • Painanator wrote: »
    This is how it works:

    Developers make a new anti-hack, it works for some time, then hackers finds a new way to hack, after a while developers make a new anti-hack that works, and on and on and on it goes.
    It is the same thing with anti-virus and virus-makers.

    The game will never be completely clean. It's just a matter of better and worse periods.
    It's not something that is only happening in CF, but in all (Yes all) games. Even those that has the best anti-hack software and best developers, will still continuously have to fight the hackers, some get in, some don't.

    There is no universal solution. If people want to do something really bad, they will do it, no matter the difficulties. It's just a matter of time.
    It's sad, but I don't think this will ever change.

    Well one solution would be to make the anticheat work in a smarter way. Detecting a cheat and instantly throwing a "HACKTOOL DETECTED!!!!" is just incredibly useless and inefficient. Once a couple of them run into this error, they warn everyone else about X cheat tool being detected.

    VAC for example detects cheats -> lets everyone cheat for a couple of days, logging everyone using X cheat -> bans 100% of players that were using the detected cheat.

    Considering people tend to cheat in ranked matches for rewards, it's pretty save to assume many would stop bothering with this if they get banned all the time.
  • xVerm wrote: »

    Well one solution would be to make the anticheat work in a smarter way. Detecting a cheat and instantly throwing a "HACKTOOL DETECTED!!!!" is just incredibly useless and inefficient. Once a couple of them run into this error, they warn everyone else about X cheat tool being detected.

    VAC for example detects cheats -> lets everyone cheat for a couple of days, logging everyone using X cheat -> bans 100% of players that were using the detected cheat.

    Considering people tend to cheat in ranked matches for rewards, it's pretty save to assume many would stop bothering with this if they get banned all the time.

    At the beginning of this game, i think it happened in 2009-2010; there were hounderds hackers in the game. Speed hackers, throwing knife hackers, aim bots, wall hackers, teleporters... So I was very angry and bored .I thought that I must fight with their method against them. I hacked, too. But I just kill the hackers with hack. At the end I was banned and I lost my honorable ribbon .In that case, the game developers, masters should not push us this way.
  • xVerm wrote: »

    Well one solution would be to make the anticheat work in a smarter way. Detecting a cheat and instantly throwing a "HACKTOOL DETECTED!!!!" is just incredibly useless and inefficient. Once a couple of them run into this error, they warn everyone else about X cheat tool being detected.

    VAC for example detects cheats -> lets everyone cheat for a couple of days, logging everyone using X cheat -> bans 100% of players that were using the detected cheat.

    Considering people tend to cheat in ranked matches for rewards, it's pretty save to assume many would stop bothering with this if they get banned all the time.

    That would at least be better than now. It won't stop the cheats completely, but It would make it harder for them.
    JackPain (Sweden)
  • Painanator wrote: »
    This is how it works:

    Developers make a new anti-hack, it works for some time, then hackers finds a new way to hack, after a while developers make a new anti-hack that works, and on and on and on it goes.
    It is the same thing with anti-virus and virus-makers.

    The game will never be completely clean. It's just a matter of better and worse periods.
    It's not something that is only happening in CF, but in all (Yes all) games. Even those that has the best anti-hack software and best developers, will still continuously have to fight the hackers, some get in, some don't.

    There is no universal solution. If people want to do something really bad, they will do it, no matter the difficulties. It's just a matter of time.
    It's sad, but I don't think this will ever change.

    to many thing they can do there is ip they can banned ip address for ever they can make online anti-hack when some players vote for hackers but no one care trust me
  • xVerm wrote: »

    Well one solution would be to make the anticheat work in a smarter way. Detecting a cheat and instantly throwing a "HACKTOOL DETECTED!!!!" is just incredibly useless and inefficient. Once a couple of them run into this error, they warn everyone else about X cheat tool being detected.

    VAC for example detects cheats -> lets everyone cheat for a couple of days, logging everyone using X cheat -> bans 100% of players that were using the detected cheat.

    Considering people tend to cheat in ranked matches for rewards, it's pretty save to assume many would stop bothering with this if they get banned all the time.
    More than one solution but we do not find anyone who cares or think to find solution and to many stop care cuz they want win to many have hackr in hes friend list to git easy win
  • Painanator wrote: »

    That would at least be better than now. It won't stop the cheats completely, but It would make it harder for them.

    Yeah, there will always be cheaters, you can bypass everything somehow. But in CF basically nothing is being done about it beyond the usual useless detecting cheats and instantly throwing the warning signs around.
    Let's hope they find a smarter system for whatever sequel we may get here in the west.
  • First of all , the CF developers dont make anti-cheat sistems .. and second is that an EG Region Block will solve more then half of the problems with cheaters in this game . I`m not rasists , but check the ingame cheaters and you`ll see that there are mostly egys .
  • MrUxell wrote: »
    I hacked, too. But I just kill the hackers with hack. At the end I was banned and I lost my honorable ribbon

    Good. Hackers are scum and deserve worse than a ban. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, you cheated. Get rekt
  • Sunos wrote: »
    First of all , the CF developers dont make anti-cheat sistems .. and second is that an EG Region Block will solve more then half of the problems with cheaters in this game . I`m not rasists , but check the ingame cheaters and you`ll see that there are mostly egys .

    if u think that but i have seen turk and eu players use hck toll so
  • xVerm wrote: »

    Yeah, there will always be cheaters, you can bypass everything somehow. But in CF basically nothing is being done about it beyond the usual useless detecting cheats and instantly throwing the warning signs around.
    Let's hope they find a smarter system for whatever sequel we may get here in the west.

    i dont think they will even think or try to find new way for cheats
  • I still repeat my words to people playing with friends password rooms so your problems will be solved
  • IGN_Galaxy wrote: »
    I still repeat my words to people playing with friends password rooms so your problems will be solved

    Yeah and that's cool and all, but really not relevant to the topic. Thing is, the game is yet again broken to the core and infested with cheaters and nothing is being done about it. Hiding away from these problems won't fix it for the rest of us who don't wanna play in private rooms all the time.
  • [USER="26495139"]xVerm[/USER] As Jack said this will never happen
  • Tha_D wrote: »

    Good. Hackers are scum and deserve worse than a ban. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, you cheated. Get rekt

    Hey little kid, you quoted a little part of my writing like you. What were you doing in 2009? Playing in the park?
  • or even a simple but old Trick, "reopen" a old hack code as example walk through wall or fly hack, let it open for 2-3 weeks and do a "hidden" server response for player that were at some heights no legit player can reach or spots where player cant be without using hacks, and then after 2-3 weeks just Ban the Accounts with Mac Address, and then close the "bait" code again. and then even look up which Mac Adresses are together used with other accounts in the last 4-6 years it was everytime so

    "New Anti Cheat Patch"-->New Accounts flooding servers trying out old Cheat Programs/Codes--> after they find a working old code its getting flodded the servers with it until a "new hack" comes out----> and it restarts from the first part

  • to many thing they can do there is ip they can banned ip address for ever they can make online anti-hack when some players vote for hackers but no one care trust me

    Ip isn’t useful you can change it, other games hardware bans cheaters which is a lot harder. Z8 announced hardware ban few years back but clearly they never went through with it by the number of times cheaters get banned then make another ign resembling their old one. Lol
  • MrUxell wrote: »

    Hey little kid, you quoted a little part of my writing like you. What were you doing in 2009? Playing in the park?

    I'm probably old enough to be your dad. You're lucky I'm not though cuz I would've beat your ass for cheating.
  • IGN_Galaxy wrote: »
    [USER="26495139"]xVerm[/USER] As Jack said this will never happen

    I never said it would.
    It would be the right way to handle cheaters, and the right way tends to differ from smilegates way quite a lot.
  • xVerm wrote: »

    I never said it would.
    It would be the right way to handle cheaters, and the right way tends to differ from smilegates way quite a lot.

    are u see comment Painanator
  • IGN_Galaxy wrote: »

    are u see comment Painanator

    Yeah and I understand what he wrote, you quite clearly don't.
  • xVerm wrote: »

    Yeah and I understand what he wrote, you quite clearly don't.

    I'll say that what Jack said is true about the question of how developers and hacker work