M4A1 Laser win rate

Why the win rate of the new m4a1 laser is so bad i made 200 clear and still didnt wint it! like its not enought to make the map so hard also the win rate is so bad!

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  • Why the win rate of the new m4a1 laser is so bad i made 200 clear and still didnt wint it! like its not enought to make the map so hard also the win rate is so bad!

    Hey GMs, I think a lot of players would appreciate.
    With crater dawn, after a few days, I already had 8 AK buster - they came like pigeons in a park... not good.
    Now, the M4A1 laser is as rare as a diamond... not good.
    Please give a more fair chance to get one without flooding it all over the place.
    People will love it...
  • Hello there.

    Don't collect 30-50 box...open 5 by 5

    I tested it..when I collected 50 box then 45/50 were googles..when I had only 5 box in my inventory I win 3 buff and 2 mini monster (and later m4 of course).so unlike black market,on this case the less box you have the better.

    But yes I agree they set ridiculous drop rate (again);some of my friends and most of my clan mates has above 200 nightmare and most of them are still without m4 =/
  • I got mine in 6 boxes just opening 1 by 1 once I get them, not sure if that has anything to do with the droprate or luck, as I have friends with 100+ clears and no m4.

    The map isn't that hard, but it's very mechanics based where timing and teamwork is key to success, which we can all agree, you won't find much with randoms, and all the lagg spiking or fps drops really ruin the rythm of the fight. So, You need a good team.
  • New_Pro wrote: »
    I got mine in 6 boxes just opening 1 by 1 once I get them, not sure if that has anything to do with the droprate or luck, as I have friends with 100+ clears and no m4.

    The map isn't that hard, but it's very mechanics based where timing and teamwork is key to success, which we can all agree, you won't find much with randoms, and all the lagg spiking or fps drops really ruin the rythm of the fight. So, You need a good team.

    Basically this, its a great comment that sums all up, map is challenging but manageable once you practice. The bad thing is if you sum up FPS drops, lag and server disconnects the game is almost unplayable.

    About the win rate, not sure to guess a number but its quite more hard than AK Buster. I was about to stack 50 boxes to open but I will follow Rushadow tip (open from 5 boxes). So far I have opened 10-15 boxes (one by one as soon as I won them) without any luck.
    I already have the jewels to upgrade it to Gold... just need to win the weapon!

    Good luck to everybody chasing the M4.
  • and I was bored of trying to get the m4, if they were going to put a drop so low they would have put it in black market
  • Hello there.

    Don't collect 30-50 box...open 5 by 5

    I tested it..when I collected 50 box then 45/50 were googles..when I had only 5 box in my inventory I win 3 buff and 2 mini monster (and later m4 of course).so unlike black market,on this case the less box you have the better.

    But yes I agree they set ridiculous drop rate (again);some of my friends and most of my clan mates has above 200 nightmare and most of them are still without m4 =/

    i tried alot of way including 5-5 and still no one but i will keep 5-5 as u said. but its still so bad rate 200 clear in crater would give about 5 AKs
  • New_Pro wrote: »
    I got mine in 6 boxes just opening 1 by 1 once I get them, not sure if that has anything to do with the droprate or luck, as I have friends with 100+ clears and no m4.

    The map isn't that hard, but it's very mechanics based where timing and teamwork is key to success, which we can all agree, you won't find much with randoms, and all the lagg spiking or fps drops really ruin the rythm of the fight. So, You need a good team.

    yeye im not talking about the map so hard i alrdy cleared 200 times. i say its hardest map and worst luck ever
  • I really do not know what is the logic with the drop rate of this weapon, honestly. Like:

    1. first of all, literally only like a part of the current playerbase can finish the map >
    2. second, considering the fact that jewels also are rare, but not as rare as the m4 itself, theres enough people who might not have all the jewels needed for gold but as SOON as they get the m4 they will (this leads me to the next)
    3. they will BUY jewels to upgrade the weapon. How do you get jewels other by wining? Well yes, by buying them with ZP. How are players gonna spend money on ZP to upgrade the gun, if they DONT win the gun itself and will probably eventually give up on it ??

    Help me dear RNG and dear logic: the gun itself is free, the money comes from upgrading the gun. No gun, no money spent, it is that EASY!!



    short: whats the point of having really low winrate on the m4? it feels lower than the Black Market. Seriously, where is the logic? (dont give me the "m4 vip" reason, most if not everyone who has that gun can complete the map, so that reason is invalid)
  • svanced wrote: »
    I really do not know what is the logic with the drop rate of this weapon, honestly. Like:

    1. first of all, literally only like a part of the current playerbase can finish the map >
    2. second, considering the fact that jewels also are rare, but not as rare as the m4 itself, theres enough people who might not have all the jewels needed for gold but as SOON as they get the m4 they will (this leads me to the next)
    3. they will BUY jewels to upgrade the weapon. How do you get jewels other by wining? Well yes, by buying them with ZP. How are players gonna spend money on ZP to upgrade the gun, if they DONT win the gun itself and will probably eventually give up on it ??

    Help me dear RNG and dear logic: the gun itself is free, the money comes from upgrading the gun. No gun, no money spent, it is that EASY!!



    short: whats the point of having really low winrate on the m4? it feels lower than the Black Market. Seriously, where is the logic? (dont give me the "m4 vip" reason, most if not everyone who has that gun can complete the map, so that reason is invalid)

    Well the only reason I can think of, is the fact that maybe some players skip on using their jewels on AK and got ready for the M4 Laser. This is why they made it harder to win within a couple of Colossus Boxes.
    Or generally the fact that when AK Buster first came out, not that many jewels market were available and hence some time had to pass since most of players were able to upgrade their AK Busters to Gold, in this particular case a good amount of players insta-upgraded their M4 as soon as they won them.

    I believe the rate should be a bit higher since I read some players with 100+ games completed (around 40 boxes) havent won yet the M4 Laser, which helps a lot to completed Nightmare runs.

    Also maybe they wanted to avoid quick jewel mining on 8 players rooms (all with M4 Laser golds).

    For me, the challenge is OK, it keeps me interested in playing the new map (Elemental) but in the other hand I get discouraged by the server issues, fps drops, lag which makes the journey harder.
  • It's also possible that since a lot of people have been complaining about having multiple AK Busters and can't do anything with them....that they thus lowered the drop rate of the M4 to reduce the amount of potential duplicate M4's people would have since people were complaining about it. A lot more people yet were complaining how the drop rate of the AK buster seemed higher than the jewels which didn't sit right with them. They even made a suggestion somewhere to be able to trade/sell the AK Buster duplicates for a Jewel(s).

    Of course the duplicate issue could have been solved by only allowing a player to have 1 base M4 laser at a time and rewarding something else in it's place if you already have one and thus allowing the drop rate of the M4 to be higher but still avoiding the duplicate mess. But ya know....CF things.
  • I'll try stacking 5 boxes at a time. now it's getting harder because some games want you to have the m4 already. other players are nice and will die so you can take theirs and clear a quick few runs but still not having luck winning it. maybe coincidence or luck today but I notice if you clear nightmare with a quick clear it usually gives you a jewel. I got like 5 today...which still doesn't help if you still need to win the gun yourself.
  • it will also be better for them since ppl wont buy jewels before they win the M4 cuz if they dont have it they will collect jewels until win the M4 then buy the reset
  • I have not won the m4a1-s-laser, with more than 200 victories, this is a shame, by the time I win it I will not even want to see the map is unfortunate, what worries me is that with my bad luck I do not know how many times I will have to finish the map, 500 times? 1000 times while some open 5 boxes and win the weapon
  • i think they should have atleast put some temporary 1, 3 or 7 day ones to help some people along
  • svanced wrote: »
    I really do not know what is the logic with the drop rate of this weapon, honestly. Like:

    1. first of all, literally only like a part of the current playerbase can finish the map >
    2. second, considering the fact that jewels also are rare, but not as rare as the m4 itself, theres enough people who might not have all the jewels needed for gold but as SOON as they get the m4 they will (this leads me to the next)
    3. they will BUY jewels to upgrade the weapon. How do you get jewels other by wining? Well yes, by buying them with ZP. How are players gonna spend money on ZP to upgrade the gun, if they DONT win the gun itself and will probably eventually give up on it ??

    Help me dear RNG and dear logic: the gun itself is free, the money comes from upgrading the gun. No gun, no money spent, it is that EASY!!



    short: whats the point of having really low winrate on the m4? it feels lower than the Black Market. Seriously, where is the logic? (dont give me the "m4 vip" reason, most if not everyone who has that gun can complete the map, so that reason is invalid)


    I'll tell you why. I think you remember the last events. All kind of "Play 1 hour daily for the next 3-4 days and..." or I"If community reaches 1 billion :) hours, you will get blah blah blah". What's the conclusion? Z8 needs internet traffic more then direct money from their lousy trade system. But don't worry. They always find ways to get your money.
  • guys finally win it by passing 220 nightmares and 60 experts
  • ADeiDead wrote: »
    guys finally win it by passing 220 nightmares and 60 experts

    atleast you have enough jewels to upgrade it now. and you'll never want to play this map ever again. ever.
  • Obviously I'm usually playing zombies because the reaction time of HD Tv is too much. According to the ratio of games I play, it still breaks my enthusiasm for not having the weapon. So far I have completed 308 nightmares and 64 expert challenges. In terms of luck, I question myself with a smile.

    I wish everyone good luck. Like we need this.
  • OtokuTr wrote: »
    Obviously I'm usually playing zombies because the reaction time of HD Tv is too much. According to the ratio of games I play, it still breaks my enthusiasm for not having the weapon. So far I have completed 308 nightmares and 64 expert challenges. In terms of luck, I question myself with a smile.

    I wish everyone good luck. Like we need this.





    WOW, I really feel bad for you buddy almost 150 opened box for no M4, hope you can win it soon... dont give up.
    As time passes, every players is getting better and better on the map and clear will be faster.
  • PorBiejin wrote: »

    WOW, I really feel bad for you buddy almost 150 opened box for no M4, hope you can win it soon... dont give up.
    As time passes, every players is getting better and better on the map and clear will be faster.

    Thanks for your good thoughts. Frankly, I'm not worried about time. Games last for an average of eight, nine minutes.

    I wish everyone enjoyable games. :)
  • Send tickets to GM like me. They must hear us to raise winrate for m4! It is annoying to be kickked by noobs!
  • MrUxell wrote: »
    Send tickets to GM like me. They must hear us to raise winrate for m4! It is annoying to be kickked by noobs!

    i sent bro and they said its an random rate and will not be changed. also i finaly won after 671 clear . god!