new zm map is impossible to complete

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This map is way too hard

In nightmare we can't even use H and we failed the room in less than 2 minuets with team full of marshels with ak buster gold...In expert it's we just wasted 100 revives in 1 game that took us a hour to complete with (as I already mentioned ) team full of marshels(and even then we almost failed and made it in last 10 seconds )
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This new zm map is impossible complete.
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  • Yes it’s very hard map and taking too much time.
  • All you need is to learn boss rotations. It is not that hard as you think it is. But well, i tried to make a room in which i can explain everything and for 3 hours of searching and waiting we able to finish the last boss only once. Cause some stupid guys DONT EVER LISTEN and breaking the boss rotations.
  • Can you explain how please?

    When the second wave is coming, try to enter another room, away from others. Pick up amulet and stay alive (you can block almost everything except for AOE). Blue boss likes jumps, Red one - dodges. After you learned all the attacks, pick hammer and learn when to stun. Gloves need to pick up boss after the stun so the timing are nearby the same. I dont wanna to write full guide for now cause i still learning about last boss and i won't acquire anything from it (´・ω・`)
  • What is that amulet? I learned about the patterns about jump and dodge. I dont know what that amulet is. And thanks
  • the 4th class that person is also need to cause him to go to his hammer time phase I will usually use shield against the boss since I know the fire guardian pattern
  • Does seem much harder than on CF CN, I wonder if there is a bug or something.
  • is your using the aa-12 buster does it help a little or nah?
  • I think the bosses attack quicker than in CF CN, the timer is too long, so you can't even dodge the attacks. Pretty sure there is something broken about it.
  • Welp I can beat both guardian without dying as long as i can see the boss and get lucky on some of their attacks.
  • Darkfiro7 wrote: »
    Welp I can beat both guardian without dying as long as i can see the boss and get lucky on some of their attacks.

    It is better to able solo tank the boss rather that getting lucky. Their rotation is not that difficult.
  • After alot of tries i got 2 clear on expert with 5 revive tokens xD .... Nightmare is impossible to complete .. try to use p90 wildshot better than AA12.
  • reeeeyy wrote: »
    try to use p90 wildshot better than AA12.

    For this mode AK-47 Buster is the best. At least for tank.
  • keixrome wrote: »

    For this mode AK-47 Buster is the best. At least for tank.

    I know but i doesn't upgrade my ak buster i am selling the jewels xD
  • Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves
  • [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves[/QUOTE]

    Should've honestly name this new map into a whole new mode: Scenario Mode or even Raid Mode.

    "ZM/Zombie Mode" in Crossfire has gone into a casual mode you play for fun without worrying too much about anything. Even Crater Dawn falls into this, even on nightmare, with a team with free AA12's and no communication or team set up before the game. The only maps that are an exception to this are the first ZM map and that map where you fight Nightmare WITHOUT using your own weapons.

    When the normal ZM players jumped into this new map, it was like taking a wake up call to reality, and barely anyone was prepared for this.
  • [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first.[/QUOTE]

    Actually you can clear it without laser too. The main problem is lack of teammates experience and miscommunication. For example if someone take the blue guardian agro and starting running all around the room or entering main boss room before teammates revives.

    And someone ran away from the room before I even able to join (・`ω´・)
  • really this mode is so hard.If u havent got 7 friend u cant complete this mode
  • I have 12 clears now in Expert, i'm fully kitted out for ZM though and have a lot of experience ZMer friends, I have no idea how more casual and non spending players can achieve this.
  • if All of the team have m4a1 Laser u will win not easy Must Leran how to play this map its really Hard
  • [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves[/QUOTE]

    You really can't expect coordination in game where you jump into matches with random strangers. Especially when there's no ingame voice chat. The only way to be able to do this if you're part of a good clan that communicates outside of the game. This just isn't the game for massive boss raids.
  • ZM Elemental Raid ( time short play ).... Bad time ( kill Boss 3 Final !!! impossible ) time time time short
    all team ( AA-12 Buster ) 8 players star vip >>>>> no win ? Time short


    edit please time map or no play again map ( ZM Elemental Raid )
    Time Time Time short
  • A bit off topic - but the awm ironhawk is so awesome,it deals the same damage as barrett on hmx and the same damage as burning shoot on zm =) not to mention I rock pub sd with it .

    [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves[/QUOTE]

    Well ye ,maybe,if the players practice for a month...problem is the map was added just yesterday and today nobody play it any more (most players gave up cuze it too hard).
  • well ill say it possible, i just finished a nightmare at a time of 14:35 with only 25 seconds to spare. Its very possible but you need a good team, know how to dodge and good weapons (p90 will suffice)
  • On paper this is the strat I come up with in 1/3 Everyone must be a medic. Medic nade in this mode hurt the Enemies in 2/3 (assume 8 players) divide the group into 2 group of 1 of each class the shield class must be a non lagger he can reflect the damage if he time his shield right on the guardian 1/10 of the health bar,1 hammer to stun and 1 glove and 1 medic.

    -In 3/3 3-4 Hammers 2 Gloves the rest medics.

    Gloves are important to use on stun boss since you crit chance increase by alot when they are hovering due to the glove. the medic job is to activate the crushers, while the hammer are to use the hammer when the final boss does one of the following : grabbing a player (hence the 3 -4 hammer in case one of the hammer get grabbed) Is about to do a spin attack, Is about to do the ground pound attack.

    You can ignore the guardian at 50x life bar the Fire guardian leaves.
  • [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves[/QUOTE]

    Is M4A1-S-Laser (the non upgraded version) decent for this map? Or should we stick to AA12 or any other gun?
  • the M4 laser is Op we got one guy with it and we clear nightmare with SS rank.
  • Zeno2019 wrote: »
    This is sh1t =((

    This map is way too hard

    In nightmare we can't even use H and we failed the room in less than 2 minuets with team full of marshels with ak buster gold...In expert it's we just wasted 100 revives in 1 game that took us a hour to complete with (as I already mentioned ) team full of marshels(and even then we almost failed and made it in last 10 seconds )
    ..

    This new zm map is impossible complete.

    it is possiible i got it done now with 2 wins,

    You need at best all P90s Wild shot, or p90 infection because they have more DPS

    1 Medic Nade, 2 Gloves, and Rest Sledge Hammers

    First all need to go to Ice Beast, and everytime Possible Stun and Pick him with Glove up because then they get more Damage, Once hes Done, do the same thing on Fire Beast Constant Stund an Force Gloves. And at last Boss same Pattern, but its Important that you have High DPS output with all 8 Players that means no Ak Buster, or Kac Chainsaws and such stuff.and Everytime Possible to Stun and Force Pick up the Boss
  • [QUOTE=[GM]Lasagnya;n6902808]Don't jump straight to nightmare, you need to get the laser first. Also you need a good team or else you're going to have a bad time.

    you're basically going into a raid without the proper equipment. you also need a lot of communication too. you can waste some hammer stuns if you don't communicate when your hammer is on cd, etc.

    it's like any raid, you need to practice doing it and you need to be able to read boss attacks + reaction time quick enough for that sweet resist. very hard but rewarding once you learn the moves[/QUOTE]

    But there Still some Bugs, First Bug is that when the Game dont realize you have High Amount of Revive Token like me i had 359 Tokens, and got some from Zombie mode Crate, it Created a Second Slot of Tokens, and just used that 2 Tokens and then i wasnt able to use the other 350 Tokens.

    That Fire Beast at least where i recognized it can kill you with that Jump Fire Attack before you even reach the portal to get to the Fire Beast, and last but not least it dont even Realize everytime you want to dodge Attacks with Slide, often it uses the Slide, but you get freezed on Point and still get Damage.

    But When i Quote you that you need "the right Equipment first" how do you think players should be able to do nightmare with aa12 or p90s, to get a chance to earn Crates in this Few Days, Because im Working half of the Day and i Wont spend the Rest half of the Day Trying to get M4A1S Undertech, just to try to earn some Crates
  • " A team full of Marshalls". That was already your first mistake, assuming rank means anything when the content in this game actually challenges you for once. I am just a measly Master Seargent but through years of experiences with boss mechanics in a variety of games it comes naturally to me to look for attack patterns, timings etc. The amount of high ranked players who throw medic grenades at the boss or use their breach hammer when its not the time to use it is mindboggling. Dont look for high ranks, look for people who know how to dodge attacks and add them.