What was your Last Winning? How much did you need to Spend in roughly Crates/Zp?
This Thread isn't supposed to raise any "Hate" to anyone here, but its interesting for me on How much other Players needed to win the Last Perma Gun (Zp) they got, on how much Crates (Free or Bought) they spended, or just Roughly how much Zp they spended, until they got one. For me now its now a moment Reached, after nearby 9 Years, that im gonna say im Stop gonna Spend Zp, Max 5k ZP for Monthly Bags but thats gonna be it, and this Point is now Reached because my last Winning was the Kar98k Fericious Dragon, i spended over 170.000 Zp to get it, i won 2 times the QBZ95 Ferocious Dragon too, but Duplicates brings absolutly nothing (now with the Storage Limit even less, and no resolution for Duplicates), since then i Used the 50% Bonus Zp this Month and bought this Time again 75k Zp and again even with the free Crates i got nothing, before it was for Empire Collection and other Crates Try to Win too over 70K Zp and nothing.
Dont Write its about Luck, i'm not complaining right now because thats whats it was the last 9 Years, that Struggle, and yeah im Stupid but i've Learned out of it and now Stopping it.
So i just Start to give you an Idea what i mean here
Last Winning: Fericous Dragon Crate (Kar98k+QBZ95)
Zp Needed for Win: over 170K zp
Spend Zp since, try to Win Another Permanent Gun: over 170K + 30 Free Crates+ 45 Free Crate Tickets
Like i said, i just want to see if im really that only Unlucky here the last Time, or there any others out there. In this 9 Years even on Black Friday Sales where i bought over 1k Crates i never had the Luck to Win 10 or more Perma Guns on 1 Day, when i see some Crossfire Openings its just in my opinion a Joke, that some are Buying 1 Crate and win Instant Perma and this 2-3 Times in one Week (thats would be a good Time Area for 1 Video at Max) and then even Win more up to 8 Guns for 1 Video or Week. In 9 Years now I just Won 1 Gun with 1 Crate and this was the D.E Royal Dragon, BUT i spended before 100K ZP so its not really 1 Crate Win in this Time Elapse. So i will stop Spend my Money in Zp because for me it now came Clearly to me its not worth it to Spend over 200 Dollars just to Win a Perma Gun, i rather invest my Money in something more Useful, and are try to Enjoy the Guns that i have Already
In my Opinion the Winning odds should be Increased already a long Time, ago because its a Problem even when you Win a Gun you wanted for a Long Time, and its even a Rare one, i saw it so often already, and felt it by my own, that nearby my Full Team in a Game Blocked me with Full intention in front of a Enemy so that i get Killed just that they can Pick up Guns from the Ground, or even 5 from the Enemy Team try to Focus on me Because they want that Gun so bad (Last Time i had this was when the M4A1 Meow just Came out). To Fix that there would be nice to give a Room Host the Option like "Extreme" that would Disable the Weapon Drop or even to make an Item for Gp that Disables the Drop of Guns when you die, Because that would be more Interesting and nobody could just Spray his Gun Empty and pick one after another Gun up and Spray it Empty. But thats another Story, im rather interested on your Answers above
Dont Write its about Luck, i'm not complaining right now because thats whats it was the last 9 Years, that Struggle, and yeah im Stupid but i've Learned out of it and now Stopping it.
So i just Start to give you an Idea what i mean here
Last Winning: Fericous Dragon Crate (Kar98k+QBZ95)
Zp Needed for Win: over 170K zp
Spend Zp since, try to Win Another Permanent Gun: over 170K + 30 Free Crates+ 45 Free Crate Tickets
Like i said, i just want to see if im really that only Unlucky here the last Time, or there any others out there. In this 9 Years even on Black Friday Sales where i bought over 1k Crates i never had the Luck to Win 10 or more Perma Guns on 1 Day, when i see some Crossfire Openings its just in my opinion a Joke, that some are Buying 1 Crate and win Instant Perma and this 2-3 Times in one Week (thats would be a good Time Area for 1 Video at Max) and then even Win more up to 8 Guns for 1 Video or Week. In 9 Years now I just Won 1 Gun with 1 Crate and this was the D.E Royal Dragon, BUT i spended before 100K ZP so its not really 1 Crate Win in this Time Elapse. So i will stop Spend my Money in Zp because for me it now came Clearly to me its not worth it to Spend over 200 Dollars just to Win a Perma Gun, i rather invest my Money in something more Useful, and are try to Enjoy the Guns that i have Already
In my Opinion the Winning odds should be Increased already a long Time, ago because its a Problem even when you Win a Gun you wanted for a Long Time, and its even a Rare one, i saw it so often already, and felt it by my own, that nearby my Full Team in a Game Blocked me with Full intention in front of a Enemy so that i get Killed just that they can Pick up Guns from the Ground, or even 5 from the Enemy Team try to Focus on me Because they want that Gun so bad (Last Time i had this was when the M4A1 Meow just Came out). To Fix that there would be nice to give a Room Host the Option like "Extreme" that would Disable the Weapon Drop or even to make an Item for Gp that Disables the Drop of Guns when you die, Because that would be more Interesting and nobody could just Spray his Gun Empty and pick one after another Gun up and Spray it Empty. But thats another Story, im rather interested on your Answers above
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My hypothesis that at the moment you buy the crates, the system already determines whether you win or lose. So the power bar really doesn't matter, you can press the button fast or keep it going, either won't do anything.
I test the button many times, the golden ball was on the same place and I power it up to the exact position many times, but the golden ball ends up in different position all the times. Sometimes it tricks you by placing the golden ball right next to jackpot position, making you believe that you almost got it right. BUT THIS IS JUST A TRICK TO MAKE YOU SPIN MORE. -
Lucky bar can either be a joke or a savior depending on how the system determines your chance of winning. If the system determines you have 0.1% winning when you bought the crates, then the lucky bar can increase it 0.3% which won't help you win anyway. So this is a joke.
If the system determines you have 3% winning when you bought the crates, then the lucky bar can make it 9%, and this might help you to win.
P/s this is just my hypothesis, -
The longer you don't touch the blackmarket the easier it is for you to win. At least this is my experience.
If you spin every week then the chance of winning is low. But if your last spin was 3 months ago then you can win easily if you spin today.
sadly i believe this.
didnt win on main since like 600 zp crates.
spend after a Long time 50k zp on 2nd account end up with 3 wins included 30 ep crates.... -
sadly i believe this.
didnt win on main since like 600 zp crates.
spend after a Long time 50k zp on 2nd account end up with 3 wins included 30 ep crates....
Yeah, it's my experience.
The last 4 guns I got from the blackmarket were from 30 crates each and I won all of them before 20th crate (Just auto-spin). This is because I was fed up with the blackmarket's win rate and so I rarely spin. I only spin every few months. -
The longer you don't touch the blackmarket the easier it is for you to win. At least this is my experience.
If you spin every week then the chance of winning is low. But if your last spin was 3 months ago then you can win easily if you spin today.
yeah that i felt too, when i didnt bought any Crates or spinned free crates after a long time i got more then, usuall, and even when i looked the last weeks in crossfire black market winnings, its like "Group" winnings what i mean by that is, 7 days until 5 days ago, the only player where would win any perma stuff was all 2 Stars accounts and higher, then it switched to nearby no stars accounts -
Don't know if your chances go up, if you don't spin every month, but i've won from ZP-crates for 3 straight month's.
This month (or rather May) - The M4 - Blue Sapphire, Iron Hammer Frost and Scorpion Evo
April - Cop Fractal
March - Axe Lotus
Before That
January - Axe Gold and Dual Karambits
December - Nothing
November - AMW - Blue Sapphire x2
+ Though not for spinning crates - AK-47 Blue Burst
And alot of GP Crates. I had almost no GP weapons, when migrating from EU. Now There Is barely a page left for me to win.JackPain (Sweden) -
My hypothesis that at the moment you buy the crates, the system already determines whether you win or lose. So the power bar really doesn't matter, you can press the button fast or keep it going, either won't do anything.
^ I believe that too, but we will NOT be sure of this
Last Winning: Smoke G Glorious Phoenix (Glorious Phoenix Mega Crate
ZP Needed for Win: 150K ZP (~200 crates bought on Black Friday 2018 and spun those crates after the server were up in December 1st Patch)
Spend ZP since try to Win Another Permanent Gun: 0K ZP (I have only opened free ZP crates earned from events and EP shop, spun around ~200-250 free crates NO WIN) -
Last win: Brick-ultimate gold, zp spent 0 (20k ep, 10 crates, won on 3rd crate) *Yesterday 2019-06-02*
earlier wins:
- m200 cheytac zp spent: 0 (53k EP, 53 crates) 2019-06-01
- shovel blue sapphire ZP spent: 0 (May crates) 2019-05-17
- m240B-Red Eagle + Scorpion Evo3 ZP spent:150k, 195 crates. somewhere in May -
^ I believe that too, but we will NOT be sure of this
Last Winning: Smoke G Glorious Phoenix (Glorious Phoenix Mega Crate
ZP Needed for Win: 150K ZP (~200 crates bought on Black Friday 2018 and spun those crates after the server were up in December 1st Patch)
Spend ZP since try to Win Another Permanent Gun: 0K ZP (I have only opened free ZP crates earned from events and EP shop, spun around ~200-250 free crates)
I too open free crates whenever I got them. But only buy ZP crates every few months (around 2 months) -
Barrett Red Dragon 50 crates. Was some time ago now, but that was the last time I had spent money on crates.
As for free crates, I won Ice Blade AK form a single free crate ticket the other day. Was very happy.
I think paying for crates is pointless, and you might as well just buy VIPs if you want to spend 100$ on a gun. -
MissA wrote:Suzy;n6898296]Barrett Red Dragon 50 crates. Was some time ago now, but that was the last time I had spent money on crates.
As for free crates, I won Ice Blade AK form a single free crate ticket the other day. Was very happy.
I think paying for crates is pointless, and you might as well just buy VIPs if you want to spend 100$ on a gun.
Yeah but vips can buy every one and it Looks always the same, but i Realized the last months i spent on zp and got absolutly nothing, so i will stop crashing in because that money to get something rare i could invest into something else, and i rather be happy with what i have right now then to try to get more, because over 200k zp spent and nothing out from it with free Tickets and free crates axtra added to this. Before i won fericious dragon weapons my last winning Was december from free crates the 9a91 xmas. When i remember correctly -
Yeah but vips can buy every one and it Looks always the same, but i Realized the last months i spent on zp and got absolutly nothing, so i will stop crashing in because that money to get something rare i could invest into something else, and i rather be happy with what i have right now then to try to get more, because over 200k zp spent and nothing out from it with free Tickets and free crates axtra added to this. Before i won fericious dragon weapons my last winning Was december from free crates the 9a91 xmas. When i remember correctly
Yeah, VIP weapons are boring, anyone with money can buy it; in fact many players have many VIPs. This is why I don't have any VIP but spin when I can. In addition, VIPs are all AK, M4, AWM and I don't use these weapons because they are too common.
My riffle is AUG A1; I like it mainly because no one uses it. Even if VIP AUG A1 comes out tommorow I won't buy it because that weapon will become too common very soon.
My shotguns are A-bolt and FN-TPS hearts. These are also the least common shotguns in game. Killing with these un-common weapons (probably considered "noob" weapons as well) gives you the most exiting feeling you can have in the game.
These weapons are "noob" because only AK, M4, AWM are pro guns according to them LOL. -
Yeah, VIP weapons are boring, anyone with money can buy it; in fact many players have many VIPs. This is why I don't have any VIP but spin when I can. In addition, VIPs are all AK, M4, AWM and I don't use these weapons because they are too common.
My riffle is AUG A1; I like it mainly because no one uses it. Even if VIP AUG A1 comes out tommorow I won't buy it because that weapon will become too common very soon.
My shotguns are A-bolt and FN-TPS hearts. These are also the least common shotguns in game. Killing with these un-common weapons (probably considered "noob" weapons as well) gives you the most exiting feeling you can have in the game.
These weapons are "noob" because only AK, M4, AWM are pro guns according to them LOL.
on rifles i use a lot of diffrent guns,too many to use all of them everytime
shotguns are my favorite ones the VEPR-12, then Jackhammer, Then Stakeout Firewall( Won it long time ago probably over 4 years ago when it first came into the game, but not using it often because even at close range the Dmg for this shotgun is way to low, but i loved that skin when i first saw it introduced into cf), then armsel striker, followed by aa12 and last is ksg15 with ks-23
on SMGs its: Kriss Super V-Liquid Metal<Scorpion EVO 3<Dual Scorpion VZ61<Dual UZI-Crimson<BIZON PP19-Gold<P90-Camo ( At my top used MP would be the MP5, if i would have any special version from it with some added bullet or silencer Perma, because it was my first gun in CF i ever had)
MGs: Vektor SS-77-Hexagon<MG3 Legendary Dragon<KAC Chainsaw-Ultimate Gold<M240B-Red Eagle<Lewis Gun<M60-Ultimate Silversmith (it depends strongly for what i need it or want it)
Sniper: FR-F2-Rusty/FR-F2-Halloween<Kar 98K-Ferocious Dragon<R93 T2<TRG-21<MSG90<Steyr Elite<Any AWM<Any Barett
i just copy the names from my Crossfire profil out in order to do a roughly overview,
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/9766020
i would love to see if the gun bags could cover more variety, what i mean by that is as example you have in bag 1 Assault rifle equipped, you can then choose 3 other backup Assault rifles, then you choose for bag 2 Sniper, so you can choose 3 other backup sniper in that bag, so you could even be more flexible for more combat situations because the game changes the whole time with new users joining and others leaving. so a player with 5 bags could get into a game with 20 Guns where he could choose, so it would be nixe, that you do 1 gun in the bag, then its marked as example for that category like MGs or Sniper and then you can take Back up Guns too, it would be really great to be more flexibel instead need to leave a room in order to change guns. but i think it will never be introduced -
i would love to see if the gun bags could cover more variety, what i mean by that is as example you have in bag 1 Assault rifle equipped, you can then choose 3 other backup Assault rifles, then you choose for bag 2 Sniper, so you can choose 3 other backup sniper in that bag, so you could even be more flexible for more combat situations because the game changes the whole time with new users joining and others leaving. so a player with 5 bags could get into a game with 20 Guns where he could choose, so it would be nixe, that you do 1 gun in the bag, then its marked as example for that category like MGs or Sniper and then you can take Back up Guns too, it would be really great to be more flexibel instead need to leave a room in order to change guns. but i think it will never be introduced
Wow i love this idea -
on rifles i use a lot of diffrent guns,too many to use all of them everytime
shotguns are my favorite ones the VEPR-12, then Jackhammer, Then Stakeout Firewall( Won it long time ago probably over 4 years ago when it first came into the game, but not using it often because even at close range the Dmg for this shotgun is way to low, but i loved that skin when i first saw it introduced into cf), then armsel striker, followed by aa12 and last is ksg15 with ks-23
on SMGs its: Kriss Super V-Liquid Metal<Scorpion EVO 3<Dual Scorpion VZ61<Dual UZI-Crimson<BIZON PP19-Gold<P90-Camo ( At my top used MP would be the MP5, if i would have any special version from it with some added bullet or silencer Perma, because it was my first gun in CF i ever had)
MGs: Vektor SS-77-Hexagon<MG3 Legendary Dragon<KAC Chainsaw-Ultimate Gold<M240B-Red Eagle<Lewis Gun<M60-Ultimate Silversmith (it depends strongly for what i need it or want it)
Sniper: FR-F2-Rusty/FR-F2-Halloween<Kar 98K-Ferocious Dragon<R93 T2<TRG-21<MSG90<Steyr Elite<Any AWM<Any Barett
i just copy the names from my Crossfire profil out in order to do a roughly overview,
http://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/9766020
i would love to see if the gun bags could cover more variety, what i mean by that is as example you have in bag 1 Assault rifle equipped, you can then choose 3 other backup Assault rifles, then you choose for bag 2 Sniper, so you can choose 3 other backup sniper in that bag, so you could even be more flexible for more combat situations because the game changes the whole time with new users joining and others leaving. so a player with 5 bags could get into a game with 20 Guns where he could choose, so it would be nixe, that you do 1 gun in the bag, then its marked as example for that category like MGs or Sniper and then you can take Back up Guns too, it would be really great to be more flexibel instead need to leave a room in order to change guns. but i think it will never be introduced
Unlike you I only use one riffle and one sniper. One rifffle because it does the work just as good as others, one sniper because all snipers are the same - all can one shot.
Shotguns are different, each has its own strengh and weakness so I play several of them but still I favor shotguns with scope and zoom like A-bolt and FN TPS. These 2 shotguns are extremely OP if you are skilled with them (I personally always get 2/1 KDA with them). Slug shotties are not as good, you often die if you miss a slug shot.
- A-bolt has large crosshair which makes it very bad even at close range but you can quick-scope with it just like a sniper and it always does 1 shot kill. And this is even faster than slug reload.
- FN-TPS can shoot very fast if you have its cope on, can also 1 shot kill, which makes it a deadly weapon. -
Unlike you I only use one riffle and one sniper. One rifffle because it does the work just as good as others, one sniper because all snipers are the same - all can one shot.
Shotguns are different, each has its own strengh and weakness so I play several of them but still I favor shotguns with scope and zoom like A-bolt and FN TPS. These 2 shotguns are extremely OP if you are skilled with them (I personally always get 2/1 KDA with them). Slug shotties are not as good, you often die if you miss a slug shot.
- A-bolt has large crosshair which makes it very bad even at close range but you can quick-scope with it just like a sniper and it always does 1 shot kill. And this is even faster than slug reload.
- FN-TPS can shoot very fast if you have its cope on, can also 1 shot kill, which makes it a deadly weapon.
I never had the FN-TPS, i use for that my VEPR-12 no other Shotgun has such an Rounds per Minute, even the AA12 shoots slower then the VEPR12 but for a cost of recoil, but if you can control it its really a close combat shotgun.
I use diffrent rifles because playing months with the same gun gets boring for me, even just to play with same gun for a whole day, and somedays you have more kills with other guns, and on other days with a diffrent one.
I use Diffrent Snipers, because i want to learn to play with all of them in a "ok" way, because if sh*t goes down and the situation needs it i want to make kills with every sniper, and theyre diffrent on many ways, like Dmg an Steyr Elite and Kar98K doesnt make 1 Hit all the Time, then Reload, Mobility, wallbang.
so i wanna be learning to be an "allrounder" i dont look at my stats, i dont care about them i wanna play to have fun and not anger me about some kills or deaths, even when it happens to me like when im arround a solid wall and just die, because the game is Async. -
But it won't get implemented, too much work the developers HAHAha
^ This, we have lazy devs, they just want to see profit doing the less effort possible, copy paste is faster and if any issues arise they troubleshoot later.
Quake suggestion is really awesome, we could take advantage of our good storage items without tons of bags added into the game. -
^ This, we have lazy devs, they just want to see profit doing the less effort possible, copy paste is faster and if any issues arise they troubleshoot later.
Quake suggestion is really awesome, we could take advantage of our good storage items without tons of bags added into the game.
Thank you ^^, my idea behind that, even when i play i realize often how the Games going into diffrent directions, (when enemys are more aggressive, you want to do team pushes, or even are outnumbered because 4 players left mid game, so there would be a rifle with a higher rate of fire be effective to have at least a chance) because when you do equip just so like it is now 7 Rifles , you get really outplayed by SMGs or even just simple Snipers over Distance. So we could use more of the Storage guns for each game, and could Match more Tactics for a Game -
^ This, we have lazy devs, they just want to see profit doing the less effort possible, copy paste is faster and if any issues arise they troubleshoot later.
Quake suggestion is really awesome, we could take advantage of our good storage items without tons of bags added into the game.
All I can say is that the game could be much better if the people behind it really cared about the game.
Probably it's time they should stop being too greedy and do something useful, otherwise this game won't be able to compete with HD version. -
Last Winning: War Fan Blue Pottery
Zp Needed for Win: 1 Free Crate from Monthly Mixup
Spend Zp since, try to Win Another Permanent Gun: over 240K ZP
2 vips of choice for 1 random crate gun LOLLLLLLL. But dont feel bad about it, many people suffered the same fate including me. This is why I don't feel happy with crates anymore. I recently lost a lot of crates for nothing. Now I dont find crates attractive anymore, just play 2 hours on weekend to get free ones. Free crates = good; spend zp for crates= bad. -
Out of roughly 40 zp crate wins i got trough 9 years of playing on my main account 35 of them were from free crates and its not like i didnt spend any money. Last crate win from crates which i purchased with my own money was around 5-6 years ago. You can check out my account: https://crossfire.z8games.com/profile/8516498/weapons
In my experience spending real money on crates is useless but when it comes to free crates oh boy.
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