evo scorpion vs tmp
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Depends on the player i guess. Haven't tried the EVO or Mp5 Ares, but i have never liked the TMP, i think it is a crap weapon.
Any Kriss is good for alround playing in almost any mode, no mather if it has JHP or not. Just aim for the throat and give a burst, most of the time you get a nice headshot. In short burst it's pretty good for long range, just a little worse than most rifles, but it does less damage. I played any kriss i could use before trying the SM3R, which became my new favorite SMG, less ammo, but more damage.
The 9A is probably the best non VVIP rifle alround, it isn't strange that it's considered a cheat gun. I wish i had one too, when playing against a team of 9a users, but the M14 is almost as good.
Whatever you do, don't waste money on the Dual Scorpions, only any good if you manage to surprise an enemy super close and the enemy is alone, otherwise, you'll probably be dead.
If facing off against enemies with TMP or Dual Scorpions, never go alone, always atleast in pairs and 9/10 times, atleast one of you will be alive after the encounter and your enemy dead (If you are not totaly useless or the lagg is bad). When it comes to facing off against players with any of the other so called Cheat-Weapons, it gets a little trickier, depending on the players skill.JackPain (Sweden) -
I have the TMP, the Evo, and the MP5 Ares. The Ares is the worst maybe. Its fire rate is obliviously slow, the damage dealt is medium. I must say that before I won the TMP I was always on Evo... Now I switched not because its better but because it makes ppl angry and that dual mode is amazingly trollish. In the end the Evo is the best in my opinion. It spits bullets insanely fast, deals good damage and is better than the rest at long range because it kinda acts like a rifle.
Oh... I almost forgot. The Jatimatic is good also. Nice fire rate, medium damage and its accuracy is good too... and that reload speed ohhhh boy... reloading is almost non-existent with it. -
From personal experience, I think the EVO is the most dangerous due to its insane fire rate alone.
Close/mid range can waste an entire team (especially if you have Tommy IDs) and since you essentially stop enemies due to its powerful tagging, its all the easier to get kills even at mid to mid-long range.
Tmps are good for people with high ping and the mp5 Ares isnt that good, but its fun to use to troll. -
Thanks guys.
How about Bizon PP19 ? This gun's stats is pretty good. I'm asking this because I'm looking for a good SMG to put it in one of my bags lol.
I just had a Calico and I was surprised by how good it is, and the obovementioned guns are even better. So, I decided to get one of those when there is 50% bonus ZP (I just realised the weapon I really wanted from old EP crates is not as good as I thought so I'm not angry with Z8games for removing those crates anymore) -
Thanks guys.
How about Bizon PP19 ? This gun's stats is pretty good. I'm asking this because I'm looking for a good SMG to put it in one of my bags lol.
I just had a Calico and I was surprised by how good it is, and the obovementioned guns are even better. So, I decided to get one of those when there is 50% bonus ZP (I just realised the weapon I really wanted from old EP crates is not as good as I thought so I'm not angry with Z8games for removing those crates anymore)
The PP19 isn't as good as the Calico, considering it doesn't have the JPH ammunition. It however does have good power, but a slower fire rate than most other JPH ammunition SMG's. -
bizon pp19 isn't too bad. but I don't believe any of them have the JHP and would probably use a Kriss Super V ahead of it. Though I'd also put the Kriss Super V Ares (or other JHP type) above the MP5 Ares types myself.
Thanks mate, I take your suggestion and not go for the Bizon and MP5. This is too bad cos the MP5 is the best looking SMG. -
The PP19 isn't as good as the Calico, considering it doesn't have the JPH ammunition. It however does have good power, but a slower fire rate than most other JPH ammunition SMG's.
Thanks Utmost, I'll go for another gun then. I'll think carefully about what to get then I can spin when there is 50% bonus. Evo seems good but its power is low and I'm afraid it would be too weak for rivalling other weapons.
TMP deadeye is the best choice I can think of at the moment. It can PvP, PvGhost, and PvMutants (it has special features for mutant mode and still has dual mode in PVP which makes it the best TMP out there). And in case I get M4 guitar instead of the TMP then it's still good. The M4 guitar has buffed power and a crazy fire rate (almost full bar) which makes it the most powerful M4A1 out there (much more powerful than even VIP counterparts) -
Well.. in case of "which weapon is better" you have to consider:
1. what recoil pattern you can manage the best?
2. are you using weapon in weapons best range?
3. what is your gameplay like... do you like to rush or being tactical*?
in conclusion, there is not "better" or "worst" weapon..
just they way you use it.
p.s.
i am subscribed to EVO Scorpion cause i used it a lot and i am use to it. -
OneTrueMitch wrote: »From personal experience, I think the EVO is the most dangerous due to its insane fire rate alone.
Close/mid range can waste an entire team (especially if you have Tommy IDs) and since you essentially stop enemies due to its powerful tagging, its all the easier to get kills even at mid to mid-long range.
Tmps are good for people with high ping and the mp5 Ares isnt that good, but its fun to use to troll.
The Evo has such a low accuracy and this will renders the gun useless when spraying from mid range, especially when its power is not that strong. I say TMP is better than evo based on stats. -
[QUOTE=Winston[BG];n6897498]I have the TMP, the Evo, and the MP5 Ares. The Ares is the worst maybe. Its fire rate is obliviously slow, the damage dealt is medium. I must say that before I won the TMP I was always on Evo... Now I switched not because its better but because it makes ppl angry and that dual mode is amazingly trollish. In the end the Evo is the best in my opinion. It spits bullets insanely fast, deals good damage and is better than the rest at long range because it kinda acts like a rifle.
Oh... I almost forgot. The Jatimatic is good also. Nice fire rate, medium damage and its accuracy is good too... and that reload speed ohhhh boy... reloading is almost non-existent with it.[/QUOTE]
Oh man! This gun is amazing; an SMG with accuracy of sniper rifles; power of battle rifles; weight of pistols; and fire rate of machine guns.
Also this gun reloads in 0.2 second. This is even faster than drawing secondary weapon, making secondary weapon useless.
It's funny that I checked every crate in the blackmarket many times but never looked at this gun's stats carefully
This gun is really amazing, it must be the best SMG out there. Just WOW. -
The Jatimatic is a fairly nice non-JHP SMG. probably the fastest reload rate or close to it of all guns. Good accuracy and damage is higher on a per bullet basis than the TMP but it's fire rate is a good bit slower in comparison to a TMP. Damage falls off pretty quickly on it when getting into behind the closer end of medium range though. The biggest shame here is that the only skinned version of the jatimatic is pretty ugly. I also don't quite like it's spray pattern but that's easy to overcome. It's a good one to use if you don't want to be completely cheap with a TMP as it fills the same role for the most part.
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The Jatimatic is a fairly nice non-JHP SMG. probably the fastest reload rate or close to it of all guns. Good accuracy and damage is higher on a per bullet basis than the TMP but it's fire rate is a good bit slower in comparison to a TMP. Damage falls off pretty quickly on it when getting into behind the closer end of medium range though. The biggest shame here is that the only skinned version of the jatimatic is pretty ugly. I also don't quite like it's spray pattern but that's easy to overcome. It's a good one to use if you don't want to be completely cheap with a TMP as it fills the same role for the most part.
I like this weapon, the only thing that bothers me is that it looks so ugly.
What do you think of CF-05 Energy by the way? I don't know what to get between these two guns. -
Painanator wrote: »Depends on the player i guess. Haven't tried the EVO or Mp5 Ares, but i have never liked the TMP, i think it is a crap weapon.
Any Kriss is good for alround playing in almost any mode, no mather if it has JHP or not. Just aim for the throat and give a burst, most of the time you get a nice headshot. In short burst it's pretty good for long range, just a little worse than most rifles, but it does less damage. I played any kriss i could use before trying the SM3R, which became my new favorite SMG, less ammo, but more damage.
The 9A is probably the best non VVIP rifle alround, it isn't strange that it's considered a cheat gun. I wish i had one too, when playing against a team of 9a users, but the M14 is almost as good.
Whatever you do, don't waste money on the Dual Scorpions, only any good if you manage to surprise an enemy super close and the enemy is alone, otherwise, you'll probably be dead.
If facing off against enemies with TMP or Dual Scorpions, never go alone, always atleast in pairs and 9/10 times, atleast one of you will be alive after the encounter and your enemy dead (If you are not totaly useless or the lagg is bad). When it comes to facing off against players with any of the other so called Cheat-Weapons, it gets a little trickier, depending on the players skill.
I saw you won EVO 3 today. Congratulations!
If you don't mind me asking, how many crates did you spin to get that? -
I saw you won EVO 3 today. Congratulations!
If you don't mind me asking, how many crates did you spin to get that?
I spun 60. I took a recharge of 50K Zp as an early birthday present to myself. I try to never spin less than 50 if i can help it and i have always won something as long as i spin atleast 50ZP crates.
Yesterday i spun all last month's crates that i saved and won M4a1-Blue sapphire, Iron Hammer Frost from free crates and Finaly the regular Lewis Gun (I probably burned about 1,5 million Gp for that gun all in all), i also burned about 500k GP on the Steyr sniper rifle, without winning. But all in all 2 very lucky days for spinning.
I liked the Evo, great accuracy, even when spraying and fast. A little low on ammo and Damage could be better, like it better than the TMP though. As i am used to the SR3M, i started using the EVO in 1-2 short burst at the throat and head of the enemies. Big mistake, the damage is too low, so i ended up killed more often than not. With it's accuracy, spraying is the way to go. I keep forgetting though and tap out of habbit, i guess it will take a while for me to get used to it. I am gonna use it for some time, just for fun, but the truth is that i like the SR3M better, best SMG in the game, i wish it had more ammo in the mag though, it would be perfect with just 10 more bullets.
I guess i am having run of bad luck now, because of my good luck spinning. I have won 3 matches of 15 today. I keep pressing the wrong buttons when i am playing, swiching to knife, when i meant to press R for reload, burning my trigger-finger when i take out my lunch from the oven, hurt my toe when i was running to the toilet. Now there is a storm outside, so i wouldn't be surprised if there is a blackout soon. Good luck in one thing and you get punished by equally bad luck in other things, always the same.JackPain (Sweden) -
Painanator wrote: »
I spun 60. I took a recharge of 50K Zp as an early birthday present to myself. I try to never spin less than 50 if i can help it and i have always won something as long as i spin atleast 50ZP crates.
Yesterday i spun all last month's crates that i saved and won M4a1-Blue sapphire, Iron Hammer Frost from free crates and Finaly the regular Lewis Gun (I probably burned about 1,5 million Gp for that gun all in all), i also burned about 500k GP on the Steyr sniper rifle, without winning. But all in all 2 very lucky days for spinning.
I liked the Evo, great accuracy, even when spraying and fast. A little low on ammo and Damage could be better, like it better than the TMP though. As i am used to the SR3M, i started using the EVO in 1-2 short burst at the throat and head of the enemies. Big mistake, the damage is too low, so i ended up killed more often than not. With it's accuracy, spraying is the way to go. I keep forgetting though and tap out of habbit, i guess it will take a while for me to get used to it. I am gonna use it for some time, just for fun, but the truth is that i like the SR3M better, best SMG in the game, i wish it had more ammo in the mag though, it would be perfect with just 10 more bullets.
I guess i am having run of bad luck now, because of my good luck spinning. I have won 3 matches of 15 today. I keep pressing the wrong buttons when i am playing, swiching to knife, when i meant to press R for reload, burning my trigger-finger when i take out my lunch from the oven, hurt my toe when i was running to the toilet. Now there is a storm outside, so i wouldn't be surprised if there is a blackout soon. Good luck in one thing and you get punished by equally bad luck in other things, always the same.
1) Congratulations on your winnings bro.
2) The best way to use EVO is to spray at enemies, not tap.
3) I also lose more than I win in ranked matches recently. Win or lose depends alot on your team so there is nothing to worry about. It's 5vs5 in ranked so you contribute only 20% to victory and have to depend on others for 80%. This is why people always team up in order to have more wins than losses. When you play with your in-game friends they won't flame and you all can aggree on a strategy, e.g. "all rush A site" or "all hold position", or "2 camp A, 1 camp Mid, 2 camp B", and every one has each other covered. I win more when I play with my in-game mates by the way; I solo alot recently and because of that I lose more than wins.
4) I'll try SR3M to see how it's like.
5) The trick for GP crates is to buy at least 200 of them and auto-spin. I always win like that and each weapon cost me no more than 300,000 GP. I now have only 5 GP weapons left to get. If you buy 10 each then you might win with less than 100,000 GP but you can also lose more than 1,000,000 GP. I made a terrible mistake on one of those GP crates by purchasing 10 crates each time and I ended up spending almost 600,000 for one weapon, but this was the only time i exceeded 300,000. -
Congratz on the win! I think you will love it. As someone else said: Dont tap with it. Spray like hell. The recoil is there but... you dont really see the effect of it. And if you plan to use it regularly... buy SMG pouch. Its a must for the EVO...
In close range enemies dont have much chance. In mid range they do but... spray
In far range Ive done marvellous kills across the map with it while spraying... Its a great weapon.
https://giphy.com/gifs/postmalone-congratulations-post-malone-l1AsI389lnxkvQHAc -
1) Congratulations on your winnings bro.
2) The best way to use EVO is to spray at enemies, not tap.
3) I also lose more than I win in ranked matches recently. Win or lose depends alot on your team so there is nothing to worry about. It's 5vs5 in ranked so you contribute only 20% to victory and have to depend on others for 80%. This is why people always team up in order to have more wins than losses. When you play with your in-game friends they won't flame and you all can aggree on a strategy, e.g. "all rush A site" or "all hold position", or "2 camp A, 1 camp Mid, 2 camp B", and every one has each other covered. I win more when I play with my in-game mates by the way; I solo alot recently and because of that I lose more than wins.
4) I'll try SR3M to see how it's like.
5) The trick for GP crates is to buy at least 200 of them and auto-spin. I always win like that and each weapon cost me no more than 300,000 GP. I now have only 5 GP weapons left to get. If you buy 10 each then you might win with less than 100,000 GP but you can also lose more than 1,000,000 GP. I made a terrible mistake on one of those GP crates by purchasing 10 crates each time and I ended up spending almost 600,000 for one weapon, but this was the only time i exceeded 300,000.
As GR i always play scout/lookout, as i mostly use SMG's (With som exceptions, depending on map and enemies) i move fast and i don't mind sacrificing myself, so others in the team have a better shot at the enemy. As BL i mostly try to follow and back-up the one with C4. I hate planting myself, because 4/5 times, i get left without back-up when following a team-member to A or B. Few seem to be willing to stay and defend, rather running around alone (which often end up in us losing), then bragging about how many more kills they have, than the rest of us and blaming all others in the team for the loss. Don't mind them bragging, i do mind how stupid they are.
I team-up when i can, but it doesn't seem to matter these two days, the players we have been facing are simply to good, keep getting one-tapped before anyone manage to react, i have had a little better luck today, not getting Super-Pro's as enemies in every match, so even if it goes slow, i've won some games. Also something strange about the lagg is happening again. No specially high pings (Me or enemies), no FPS drops, don't see anyone teleporting. But still there have been matches were i do almost no damage, when i see the shots hit an enemy. For an example, i emptied almost a mag with the M14 in an enemy from behind, almost as close so i could knife him. He turned around and killed me, the damage i did was 15. Doesn't happen in every match, but pretty often these two days. Have they started with some no-damage hack?
I've bought 50packs of gp-crates, i am gonna try 200 packs too and see if that helps.JackPain (Sweden) -
[QUOTE=Winston[BG];n6897900]Congratz on the win! I think you will love it. As someone else said: Dont tap with it. Spray like hell. The recoil is there but... you dont really see the effect of it. And if you plan to use it regularly... buy SMG pouch. Its a must for the EVO...
In close range enemies dont have much chance. In mid range they do but... spray In far range Ive done marvellous kills across the map with it while spraying... Its a great weapon.
https://giphy.com/gifs/postmalone-congratulations-post-malone-l1AsI389lnxkvQHAc[/QUOTE]
Thanks, yeah, i just haven't gotten used to it yet. It will probably take a week or two, before i do it automatically by reflex.JackPain (Sweden) -
The Evo has such a low accuracy and this will renders the gun useless when spraying from mid range, especially when its power is not that strong. I say TMP is better than evo based on stats.
I'd beg to differ on this based on my own experience. I can barely get a kill with the TMP at anything but close range, but the EVO basically rains death on everyone even at mid range. It may have slightly less dmg, but it has the same accuracy (crouching with the EVO is a bad idea), its lighter and its fire rate makes it far superior to the TMP. I've gotten more kills with the EVO than I've ever had with the other -
OneTrueMitch wrote: »
I'd beg to differ on this based on my own experience. I can barely get a kill with the TMP at anything but close range, but the EVO basically rains death on everyone even at mid range. It may have slightly less dmg, but it has the same accuracy (crouching with the EVO is a bad idea), its lighter and its fire rate makes it far superior to the TMP. I've gotten more kills with the EVO than I've ever had with the other
I see.
I just checked and realised even though the EVO has less power but its bullets are larger. So this may explain why EVO outdamanges TMP. -
OneTrueMitch wrote: »
I'd beg to differ on this based on my own experience. I can barely get a kill with the TMP at anything but close range, but the EVO basically rains death on everyone even at mid range. It may have slightly less dmg, but it has the same accuracy (crouching with the EVO is a bad idea), its lighter and its fire rate makes it far superior to the TMP. I've gotten more kills with the EVO than I've ever had with the other
I can vouch for this, the range of the EVO makes it so much better. -
OneTrueMitch wrote: »
I'd beg to differ on this based on my own experience. I can barely get a kill with the TMP at anything but close range, but the EVO basically rains death on everyone even at mid range. It may have slightly less dmg, but it has the same accuracy (crouching with the EVO is a bad idea), its lighter and its fire rate makes it far superior to the TMP. I've gotten more kills with the EVO than I've ever had with the other
I agree with the EVO having good range. I got kills in the Port level, from the beginning of A-long, to A-site roof. Only other SMG's that i've done that with is the SR3M and the Kriss. With the TMP i would miss most times from half that range.
Same thing with Ankara's B-long.JackPain (Sweden) -
OneTrueMitch wrote: »
I'd beg to differ on this based on my own experience. I can barely get a kill with the TMP at anything but close range, but the EVO basically rains death on everyone even at mid range. It may have slightly less dmg, but it has the same accuracy (crouching with the EVO is a bad idea), its lighter and its fire rate makes it far superior to the TMP. I've gotten more kills with the EVO than I've ever had with the other
Then EVO is a noob weapon or TMP is a noob weapon?
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