Feedback on recent patches

Waiwio

I really want to talk about this patch. Once again, dissapoitment prevails. Nothing f2p players to spend (not even 1 GP crate from CFEU) arrived, nothing. Instead we got trade market items that have temporary and permanent versions of it, not like the M4A1-Cat, which is absolutely dreadful since other versions have the dolls and the AK-Trumpet permanent only (like CF Russia or China). Also the VFX effects once again not permanent and hard to win it permanently, and most of the stuff from trade market was a dissapointment only for that factor, not being only permanent. People value permanent items too much and they despise temporary items too much.
As for the "system changes" like the Mutant Escape update, this one SHOULD have been pointed out in bold since it's a medium size system change. This one should've been released together with an event and not just put it in system changes which almost nobody will notice at all. Another downside of this patch.
As for the EP Crates, most of crates were a big dissapoitment, due to being an inferior crate than before... It getting boring to see inferior crates in EP each update.
Also where is the coupon weapons? Why remove the Hornet collection and not replace them with another weapons or another set of weapons? Why make us have even more reasons to stop spending crates?
Each update people start to get sad because events start to be one sided and boring. People get stressed when they are forced to win matches instead of playing for the event (just like the ribbon) and it gets into a toxic environment in CF.

minorninja

+1 this kind of stuff wants me to close cf even faster.... and i only do right now the daily missions and log off

Andrew1798

+1, trading system is trash and I don't agree at all with their "don't like it don't use it" answer when it comes to it - I think that's scummy, however they did something amazing for every player with a low-medium budget PC - huge FPS improvements!! That alone should make this patch good enough!

heavenCF

+1,I miss CFEU's events

Depravity

Hello dear GMs,

I strongly support Walleo's opinion in this case. Players like him and me have played this game for a long while in order to know what's best for it and what flaws it has. By no mean I'm saying that I'm a professional when it comes to this, but u can ask many nmany old players (more than 5 or 6 years) what they think about the overall situation. I mean if you guys don't change u could potentially lose money and honorable players. That's a lose lose situation. The community knows what is best for the game and for it to stay alive especially the old players. It's not that hard to change and care for something if you rly like ur job. If you as GMs listen to the community, that way we'll be happy and you'll be happy since many of us might be interested to keep the game alive and charge ZP. I know, you have a plan to follow from the devs and events and crates that should come in a specific oder. But it doesn't hurt to change up things a little bit. Sometimes even a small change can mean something big and make people happy. I hope my message is formal enough for you to understand and to give you some time to think about what frustrates us. I hope you take this message as a friendly opinion and not like a stab since that's not what I am trying to do.This game is addicting for over 10 years for me and I want it to still have a special place in my heart.

Best regards,
NaraKu

Painanator

The only real complains i have about this update is that they didn't change the coupon weapons. There are already so bad win rate of crates, so the coupons are the only thing that makes you wanna buy them and the only thing in coupons that are worth anything are the permanent weapons. As for the EP crates, i like the new ones better, but i know im in a minority of that opinion. I would like to have seen more GP crates added to, but it is not as important as the coupon weaps right now.

PauLaRasxD

Fps improvement is the bes tthing ever... they listen to us so with that along this patch is good enought. Although i would love to see new coupons weps..

SomeThing111

Waiwio wrote: »

I really want to talk about this patch. Once again, dissapoitment prevails. Nothing f2p players to spend (not even 1 GP crate from CFEU) arrived, nothing. Instead we got trade market items that have temporary and permanent versions of it, not like the M4A1-Cat, which is absolutely dreadful since other versions have the dolls and the AK-Trumpet permanent only (like CF Russia or China). Also the VFX effects once again not permanent and hard to win it permanently, and most of the stuff from trade market was a dissapointment only for that factor, not being only permanent. People value permanent items too much and they despise temporary items too much.
As for the "system changes" like the Mutant Escape update, this one SHOULD have been pointed out in bold since it's a medium size system change. This one should've been released together with an event and not just put it in system changes which almost nobody will notice at all. Another downside of this patch.
As for the EP Crates, most of crates were a big dissapoitment, due to being an inferior crate than before... It getting boring to see inferior crates in EP each update.
Also where is the coupon weapons? Why remove the Hornet collection and not replace them with another weapons or another set of weapons? Why make us have even more reasons to stop spending crates?
Each update people start to get sad because events start to be one sided and boring. People get stressed when they are forced to win matches instead of playing for the event (just like the ribbon) and it gets into a toxic environment in CF.

+111111111111

MGTOW

SomeThing111 wrote: »

+111111111111

It doesn't matter how many +1 you put or how many times you beg, they won't care. I personally have uninstalled the game already; somehow I feel freer after doing that.

Grumpy-

Hello there,

First, thank you for sharing your opinion. As Depravity mentioned feedback from the dedicated community can make or break any game, and we are happy that we have a community that is interested enough to give feedback, positive or negative.


Now let me go through your feedback point by point:

Nothing f2p players to spend (not even 1 GP crate from CFEU) arrived, nothing.

I am not certain of how this would make it a bad patch. Of course most players would want more GP weapons, crates, and items that you don't need to spend ZP for. However these types of contents were never released every month. Again, I would understand being disappointed because you wanted a GP crate, but I think it is unfair to label the update itself bad just because it didn't include something that you were looking for.

Instead we got trade market items that have temporary and permanent versions of it, not like the M4A1-Cat, which is absolutely dreadful since other versions have the dolls and the AK-Trumpet permanent only (like CF Russia or China). Also the VFX effects once again not permanent and hard to win it permanently, and most of the stuff from trade market was a dissapointment only for that factor, not being only permanent. People value permanent items too much and they despise temporary items too much.

As for the trade items, I see that your main and one issue is about having temporary versions of the items not the items themselves. The reason temporary items are added is to allow players to receive the item and use it even on a temporary basis if they didn't win the permanent one. We can fill the boxes with other stuff like GP, MP, coupons, basically make it similar to crates, however we choose to add the temp versions so if you didn't win the permanent you still get to try the item itself. As for "hard to win permanently" I don't really have much to say, permanent items are rare items, so it comes with the definition that they should not be won by every single spin/box. I don't believe that CF is the only game that has rare items that are not easily won.

As for the "system changes" like the Mutant Escape update, this one SHOULD have been pointed out in bold since it's a medium size system change. This one should've been released together with an event and not just put it in system changes which almost nobody will notice at all. Another downside of this patch.

So here your main issue is that this was not highlighted in some way and also didn't have an event with it? Again, not sure why if something was not done in a specific way that you prefer would make the entire patch a bad one. The reason why this it was put in the systems changes because it was a system change that players requested and they were right in doing so. You did read the notes, you did know about the change, which was the purpose. We are not marketing this as an addition, because its more of an improvement, so it does belong to systems changes.

As for the EP Crates, most of crates were a big dissapoitment, due to being an inferior crate than before... It getting boring to see inferior crates in EP each update.

Not sure what do you mean by seeing inferior crates in EP each update when the EP shop has not been updated for a long time. As for the inferiority of the crates, we don’t understand exactly what are you basing this on. Is it because you have all of the weapons? Or maybe you don’t like the skins? If that is the case then maybe this particular update is not for you, however many other players might not have them or might have wanted to win them, which is the case for any crate released either for sale or for events. Ideally, you would provide a more constructive feedback with what types of weapons or skins you would like to see in the EP shop, which is a feedback we can work with.

Also where is the coupon weapons? Why remove the Hornet collection and not replace them with another weapons or another set of weapons? Why make us have even more reasons to stop spending crates?

Coupon weapons are not traditionally changed every 2 or 3 months. In fact, coupon weapons before used to be changed every year if not more. We have shortened that period and we do have plans to continuously add new weapons to the coupon shop. The Hornet collection was added to celebrate the anniversary and we kept it there for 2 months without removing the other weapons.

Each update people start to get sad because events start to be one sided and boring. People get stressed when they are forced to win matches instead of playing for the event (just like the ribbon) and it gets into a toxic environment in CF.

Thank you for the comment about wins vs. play, see now this is a specific point where we can use in planning future events. At the end of the day some events can/will be harder than the others and some might not be possible to complete for all users. We always try to have several events running at the same time so you can get some rewards no matter how you would prefer to play, but if you believe that all events should be easy then that I would disagree with you.

Finally thanks again for the feedback and we will take notes and work on improvements. However as I mentioned before, I would not call a patch bad because it didn’t contain things that you wanted. We have mentioned before that our goal this year is to add relevant contents while focusing on quality of life improvements and we will continue to do so, hopefully guided by feedback from the community.

PorBiejin

Well you have some good points here, hope they note down. Also dont stop adding suggestions so they can see what are our expectations on this game (I see it really works)

I only have to say the following: There still a 2nd update for May so lets hope for good things and maybe something for F2P users.
As for the coupon weapons, I have read in general that most of the people had their hopes high on this "update", from what I remember they never said anything about updating the coupon system with new weapons, Hornet set was a plus to the offerings and for limited time so... they came in and now they are out, we will need to wait for the formal update when they change the 150 coupons offerings.

MGTOW

PorBiejin wrote: »

Well you have some good points here, hope they note down. Also dont stop adding suggestions so they can see what are our expectations on this game (I see it really works)

I only have to say the following: There still a 2nd update for May so lets hope for good things and maybe something for F2P users.
As for the coupon weapons, I have read in general that most of the people had their hopes high on this "update", from what I remember they never said anything about updating the coupon system with new weapons, Hornet set was a plus to the offerings and for limited time so... they came in and now they are out, we will need to wait for the formal update when they change the 150 coupons offerings.

It doesn't work at all. Look how many people begged them to not remove old EP crates, others suggest adding new crate without removing old crates, but they completely ignored those players and did what they like. This can be an epitome of how they look at you and how much they value you.

MGTOW

Begging doesn't work when they already look down on you. They probably consider you nothing but losers. Have self-respect brovs!

PorBiejin

MGTOW wrote: »

It doesn't work at all. Look how many people begged them to not remove old EP crates, others suggest adding new crate without removing old crates, but they completely ignored those players and did what they like. This can be an epitome of how they look at you and how much they value you.

Well not 100% of the suggestions may be applied to the game, but here is a handful that came true -> ZM Key Card as a reward in Monthly Mixup, D.E Black 10th Anniversary as a reward, Trade System key as a reward for Monthly Mixup, Flash and Smoke nades being removed from Mutant mode.

So, they see and note down our suggestion posts and some of them are being added into the game. Just remember the process: start a forum post in the correct section (Suggestions), then promote your forum post in Discord for additional visibility.

winnnetou

PorBiejin wrote: »

Well not 100% of the suggestions may be applied to the game, but here is a handful that came true -> ZM Key Card as a reward in Monthly Mixup, D.E Black 10th Anniversary as a reward, Trade System key as a reward for Monthly Mixup, Flash and Smoke nades being removed from Mutant mode.

So, they see and note down our suggestion posts and some of them are being added into the game. Just remember the process: start a forum post in the correct section (Suggestions), then promote your forum post in Discord for additional visibility.

Indeed some suggestions were implemented , but the process is very slow and there are a lot of good suggestions that are not , for example:

- we need more bags, personally i made 2 threads about this and i saw other making too and nothing
- better system to sort weapons and items in storage, hide duplicate weapons, trade or exchange duplicate weapons for free tickets or something else that would be just a little valuable
-an improved kick vote , lets say theres 7-4 or 9-5 votes the hacker dont get kicked
- option to buy more than 10 crates for gp crates, at least 50 or 100
- option to transfer to storage more than 12 items, after spinning, at least 100
- increased friend list , at least 200
- higher tier for coupon weapons with more valuable weapons, 200-250 coupons
-option to set only silent guns for ghost mode rooms
-new maps for dead modes like wave, people play that only when some event require to play it
-and the last i remenber right now, but not the least, increase a little bit the win rate in black market, its insane to spin hundreds of crates and get no perm, i bet many players quit buying crates because of this, meanwhile if they change it to be sure u get a perm in average 100 crates i bet many would buy crates again, until than many players just buy vips because that way they know what are paying for.

I know, we cant get all of this at once, not even the world was made in one day, but all of this i pointed out was suggested at least more than once and pretty much at least for months or even years ago.

Carias19

One can make suggestions, but it is rare that they listen to you or read your comments. If they did, we would not be complaining about the constant errors that are not solved in the game ...

outlander50

I only buy vips ( good one, last vips are garbage ak knife steam empire and vip chars), i wait ragging bull and I didnt even think to buy crates from any patch because crates are trash and i dont need gp.and coupons , I need permanent items when I PAY MONEY. THE END

Winston[BG]

Should I laugh? Yes. Yes I should.
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