Shouldn't Raging-Bull Empire be 1 hit-ish?

Cheezex3

So, after spinning a million other crates trying to win a Raging Bull, i finally got Lucky today and won the Empire version.
but i was kind of disapointed to see its not 1 hit to the chest? as far as i know the Raging Bull should be 1 hit to the chest and above?

Ixith

From the wiki page on raging bull:

wiki wrote:

This handgun has a high chance to inflict a 1-hit chest shot kill from close to medium range. However, this is not 100% consistent against armored enemies, resulting in 2-hit chest shot kills sometimes. At long range, it takes 2 chest shots. Arms and legs need 2-3 shots for a kill.

pretty much with everyone running around with armor on you only get 1 shot chest shots some of the times with it. Still something different to use.

]Toxic

Isn't it more a Random thing when Raging bull does 100 on body or not. Seemed for me to be like this.

Cryptophile

A pistol that can 1 shot to the chest from close to mid range? Are you freaking kidding me? Many (most) shotguns can't even 1 shot to the chest at close range, this is not right, let's make shotgun capable of one shot at long range to be fair.

Ixith

Cryptophile wrote: »

A pistol that can 1 shot to the chest from close to mid range? Are you freaking kidding me? Many (most) shotguns can't even 1 shot to the chest at close range, this is not right, let's make shotgun capable of one shot at long range to be fair.

the 1 shot capabilities of the raging bull are quite random. You'll likely only get them if you're close range and hit like right in the sweet spot on the chest/back area. Only time you'll likely ever get a 100 damage shot at 'mid range' is if you hit the guy in the sweet spot and they dont have armor. The raging bull also shoots slower than a deagle and has more recoil and draw speed and reload speed isn't that great. The RSH12 and the BFR are actually stronger and more likely to 1 shot but also are not always and have other set backs such as slow fire rate and reloads though IIRC the RSH12 has a pretty decent draw speed.

As far as shotguns....shotguns suffer from bullet spread issues usually. so if you're not dead center with your shot some of the pellets from the spread won't hit and you lose out on lots of damage. But most shotguns will 1 shot if you land all of the bullets/pellets up close. But since shotguns are generally close quarter combat guns they lose effectiveness in terms of both damage and their pellet spread getting greater the further out you are of course. Most of them have a low per pellet damage even at close range hence why you need to make sure all of them land for the 1 shot kills. KSG is probably the best overall shotty as it has spread but it stays relatively together unlike the spas. Serbu Super Shorty Shotgun is probably one of the highest per pellet damage dealers and yet also has a pretty wide spread so it makes it more likely to 1 hit up close and even at mid range though it's partially due to a heightened chance of getting a HS from one of the pellets in the spread.
If you really want a shotgun for mid-long range...we do have those too....it's called the Slugshots on the Ares and Rebel SPAS and M37 Stakeouts. Most people QQ about them cause they can sometimes 1 hit at pretty much sniper ranges with the slugshot option though that is of course balanced out by that you only load 1 slug at a time.

Cryptophile

Ixith wrote: »

the 1 shot capabilities of the raging bull are quite random. You'll likely only get them if you're close range and hit like right in the sweet spot on the chest/back area. Only time you'll likely ever get a 100 damage shot at 'mid range' is if you hit the guy in the sweet spot and they dont have armor. The raging bull also shoots slower than a deagle and has more recoil and draw speed and reload speed isn't that great. The RSH12 and the BFR are actually stronger and more likely to 1 shot but also are not always and have other set backs such as slow fire rate and reloads though IIRC the RSH12 has a pretty decent draw speed.

As far as shotguns....shotguns suffer from bullet spread issues usually. so if you're not dead center with your shot some of the pellets from the spread won't hit and you lose out on lots of damage. But most shotguns will 1 shot if you land all of the bullets/pellets up close. But since shotguns are generally close quarter combat guns they lose effectiveness in terms of both damage and their pellet spread getting greater the further out you are of course. Most of them have a low per pellet damage even at close range hence why you need to make sure all of them land for the 1 shot kills. KSG is probably the best overall shotty as it has spread but it stays relatively together unlike the spas. Serbu Super Shorty Shotgun is probably one of the highest per pellet damage dealers and yet also has a pretty wide spread so it makes it more likely to 1 hit up close and even at mid range though it's partially due to a heightened chance of getting a HS from one of the pellets in the spread.
If you really want a shotgun for mid-long range...we do have those too....it's called the Slugshots on the Ares and Rebel SPAS and M37 Stakeouts. Most people QQ about them cause they can sometimes 1 hit at pretty much sniper ranges with the slugshot option though that is of course balanced out by that you only load 1 slug at a time.

This game is getting stupid. Most shotguns can only 1 hit at superclose range, at close and mid range most of them can't even 1 shot. I did some research after reading your comment and found out some pistols that can 1 shot in mid range.

1st one is raging bull, but its 1 shot kill is quite random.
2nd one is RSH-12, this pistol can 1 shot in the body from mid range. Its 1 shot kill is not random.

thanks for the info though.

Utmost

Cryptophile wrote: »

This game is getting stupid. Most shotguns can only 1 hit at superclose range, at close and mid range most of them can't even 1 shot. I did some research after reading your comment and found out some pistols that can 1 shot in mid range.

1st one is raging bull, but its 1 shot kill is quite random.
2nd one is RSH-12, this pistol can 1 shot in the body from mid range. Its 1 shot kill is not random.

thanks for the info though.

Most of the newer released shotguns (Serbu, EDP, Slug) are still superior over these high damage pistols. The lack of fire rate make these pistols makes them utterly useless against for example a COP or Desert Eagle too.

Cryptophile

Utmost wrote: »

Most of the newer released shotguns (Serbu, EDP, Slug) are still superior over these high damage pistols. The lack of fire rate make these pistols makes them utterly useless against for example a COP or Desert Eagle too.

The slug shotguns can't shoot fast.

Cryptophile

Cheezex3 wrote: »

So, after spinning a million other crates trying to win a Raging Bull, i finally got Lucky today and won the Empire version.
but i was kind of disapointed to see its not 1 hit to the chest? as far as i know the Raging Bull should be 1 hit to the chest and above?

You need RSH-12, not raging bull.

RSH-12 is in black market too, good luck spending 1M zp for that.

Utmost

Cryptophile wrote: »

The slug shotguns can't shoot fast.

The lack of fire rate was mostly to compare them to other pistols, like the desert eagle and COP.