If you want to use the Trade Market and won items to make ZP forget it, not worth

Quake444

Im gonna tell you just a short Story, i opened a lot of Crates to Win at least something i wanted, but i won the first Permanent Item a lot of Crates, round about 50 crates at least and it was the for me at least most Useless Item the Foxy Dress Permanent, but because i dont wanted it or needed better said because i dont have this Char, I put it up for sale.

So long so good?

Not Really, a few Days Ago I won from the VFX Box a Permanent Version out, it was for the Desert Eagle Obsidian Beast VFX, another for me Useless Item because, i just own M4 Obsidian Beast, RPK Infernal Dragon, Bladed Knuckles Obsidian Beast. So what did i wanted to do it again? Right Selling it because i wont will Buy me just because i won the VFX for it not a Desert Eagle Vip, but here comes the big joke at least from my sight. As the Window opened to sell it i thought i couldnt see right, the cheapest Price for The Won Permanent VFX D.E Obsidian Beast was at 1000zp, and the highest Price was arround 2500zp.

So i wrote a Support Ticket, that somebody should look over some items and the listings for it, because i never saw when i switched through this list any Offers, and im just Talking only about the Permanent Version of it. The Response that i was getting was, everything is right, and this Prices are because that nobody would Abuse the Trade Market, but be Honest if there was a Selling for this Item, or better said the First Player where sold this Item "Abused" it already, because he Pushed the Price where he could start that 150k ZP instant with 1 Selling down to 1k, what for is more then Annoying because now im again Stuck with a Item that i dont even wanted, and cant even sell it, in hope to get Zp for other Crates, or other Wins. For me this Item will Collect Dust until this Server wont Exist Anymore.

I could understand it, when there would be at least a Option, that when you have a Item like this, you could at least exchange it for another Version of the Item you won, as Example that i Could exchange the D.E VFX Perma to M4 Obsidian VFX Perma, as example, and before somebody Screams arround "That could be abused too" not really, when you would to like a Exchange, that Item youve Choosen shouldnt even be able to get Sold, That Means If you Exchanged the D.E to M4 Obsidian, That M4 Item has just only the "Use" button only, so would even be the Market Protected against Exchange to get More and More ZP.

Dont Understand me Wrong i dont want it to put it up for sale for 150kZP but i wont Sell it for 1k, even the Crate and Key was more Expensive then the Perma Item out from it.

Heres a Screen there you can see i dont made this up

Rad1tzzz

If what you're saying is right, then, there's something really wrong with this game, it's just pure mess.

Quake444

Rad1tzzz wrote: »

If what you're saying is right, then, there's something really wrong with this game, it's just pure mess.

look at the first screenshot there you can see the Price where i can set for the D.E VFX Permanent, and the Lowest price i can sell it for, and on the Seconds Screen you can see its the Permanent Version and not a Time Limited one

robblade

yeah i agree. its so stupid and its basically a zp dump smh..

Ixith

If you thought the Trade Market that was implemented was meant to be a 'way for players to earn ZP' then you were sorely mistaken from the start. Yes it's possible...but that was never the intent. It like many things such as Bingo, Spin the Wheel, MP and other things have all just been ways of diversifying how players can obtain weapons and items and how they might spend their ZP. It is essentially mixing crate elements with the ability to buy what you want instead of hope for it...as long as it's for sale. It uses the hype of players being able to sell/trade stuff as the grab for it.

Now clearly the Average Price per Daily changes...well daily. so For example if it was yesterday that it gave you that price, perhaps today you can sell it for higher because no one put one up on the market yesterday and so the daily set price might have reset. It was likely set so low because the day before someone either didn't understand what they had might have had value, sold it low on purpose so a friend/other account could get it cheap, or had the same issue you had because someone else did one of the other things the day before that but just went with it anyways.

Quake444

Ixith wrote: »

If you thought the Trade Market that was implemented was meant to be a 'way for players to earn ZP' then you were sorely mistaken from the start. Yes it's possible...but that was never the intent. It like many things such as Bingo, Spin the Wheel, MP and other things have all just been ways of diversifying how players can obtain weapons and items and how they might spend their ZP. It is essentially mixing crate elements with the ability to buy what you want instead of hope for it...as long as it's for sale. It uses the hype of players being able to sell/trade stuff as the grab for it.

Now clearly the Average Price per Daily changes...well daily. so For example if it was yesterday that it gave you that price, perhaps today you can sell it for higher because no one put one up on the market yesterday and so the daily set price might have reset. It was likely set so low because the day before someone either didn't understand what they had might have had value, sold it low on purpose so a friend/other account could get it cheap, or had the same issue you had because someone else did one of the other things the day before that but just went with it anyways.

I dont thought it was to make ZP, i was just on the Hunt for Some Perm Stuff for Myself, but look like as an example at the VFX Box, Lets Say you have just 1 Vip and like M4 Iron Beast and you want for that the Green VFX, Now you have to be lucky Extreme, because just look on How Many VFX Stuff is in this Box, and from How many Diffrent Vips are in there ( i would guess arround 14 Vips VFX settings are in there, +the 7/15/30 Days Versions in it, so you can think what youre chances are to win then that VFX for your VIp)

So you have to in order to be even just Lucky to win a Perm Version, 3 Ways, you can do it only.

First Way is to Buy it From Users where won that Perm Version you want, and need to Pay 100k at least, never saw from the "normal Crates a Drop be Below (I know M4 Meow is cheaper but there you can only win it Permanent from this Box)

Second Way is to Buy you idk maybe arround 1k Boxes+ Keys to have a chance to Win all 14 Perm Versions.

or Last Way to Buy then The Specific Vip, even you dont want it.

I Did Trade the Perm Stuff that i dont needed in Order to can Open Some Boxes again in Hope to win that what i wanted, or at least would be able to trade it in for that i wanted.

Even if they would change Daily, the Sellings from some Stuff is so rare where it wouldnt even Matter, The Prices Changes arroound the Average Price sold, that means what the last Price the last ones got Sold for, as Example when somebody sell his Perm Stuff and does it for 150k, the others can go down, about to 135k i would guess, and so player cant really go "drasticly" go down with the Prices, and there is the Problem That Stuff like from VFX Box, i mean the Perm Versions, some are so rare Dropped, that you dont see it been sold every Day, some Stuff there you dont see any Sellings for weeks, because nobody get it dropped or they wanna keep it for themselves. so it would now by the D.E Obsidian VFX at least take 50 Player that would be go and sell the Perm VFX for it for the Max Price ( but first when the last one would be sold, because then the market would change for it, and like i said you wont see anyone Do this, because that Price that you can sell it right now that 2593 is the Max Price i can set for the D.E Obsidian, is way not good, because sometimes alone the Box Prices are goind up to 1800ZP+Key, and for that i should Trade a Drop where alone the Chance to Get the Perm Version is 1 to 2000?, And thats is what now wrong because im not the only one where feels like this, otherwise you would see there listenings for that VFX more then enough. So that 1 Listening Destroyed the Whole D.E Obsidian Price, maybe it was his Mistake, because he was the first one where got this, or he just didnt care and did 1 Price to it.

Utmost

Quake444 wrote: »

I dont thought it was to make ZP, i was just on the Hunt for Some Perm Stuff for Myself, but look like as an example at the VFX Box, Lets Say you have just 1 Vip and like M4 Iron Beast and you want for that the Green VFX, Now you have to be lucky Extreme, because just look on How Many VFX Stuff is in this Box, and from How many Diffrent Vips are in there ( i would guess arround 14 Vips VFX settings are in there, +the 7/15/30 Days Versions in it, so you can think what youre chances are to win then that VFX for your VIp)

So you have to in order to be even just Lucky to win a Perm Version, 3 Ways, you can do it only.

First Way is to Buy it From Users where won that Perm Version you want, and need to Pay 100k at least, never saw from the "normal Crates a Drop be Below (I know M4 Meow is cheaper but there you can only win it Permanent from this Box)

Second Way is to Buy you idk maybe arround 1k Boxes+ Keys to have a chance to Win all 14 Perm Versions.

or Last Way to Buy then The Specific Vip, even you dont want it.

I Did Trade the Perm Stuff that i dont needed in Order to can Open Some Boxes again in Hope to win that what i wanted, or at least would be able to trade it in for that i wanted.

Even if they would change Daily, the Sellings from some Stuff is so rare where it wouldnt even Matter, The Prices Changes arroound the Average Price sold, that means what the last Price the last ones got Sold for, as Example when somebody sell his Perm Stuff and does it for 150k, the others can go down, about to 135k i would guess, and so player cant really go "drasticly" go down with the Prices, and there is the Problem That Stuff like from VFX Box, i mean the Perm Versions, some are so rare Dropped, that you dont see it been sold every Day, some Stuff there you dont see any Sellings for weeks, because nobody get it dropped or they wanna keep it for themselves. so it would now by the D.E Obsidian VFX at least take 50 Player that would be go and sell the Perm VFX for it for the Max Price ( but first when the last one would be sold, because then the market would change for it, and like i said you wont see anyone Do this, because that Price that you can sell it right now that 2593 is the Max Price i can set for the D.E Obsidian, is way not good, because sometimes alone the Box Prices are goind up to 1800ZP+Key, and for that i should Trade a Drop where alone the Chance to Get the Perm Version is 1 to 2000?, And thats is what now wrong because im not the only one where feels like this, otherwise you would see there listenings for that VFX more then enough. So that 1 Listening Destroyed the Whole D.E Obsidian Price, maybe it was his Mistake, because he was the first one where got this, or he just didnt care and did 1 Price to it.

I agree it's stupid you can't sell a permanent Desert Eagle OB VFX for more than 2593. It's a quite valuable item that could easily make more in the trade mall. I recommend you to wait for a while, prices might start rising again.

Quake444

Utmost wrote: »

I agree it's stupid you can't sell a permanent Desert Eagle OB VFX for more than 2593. It's a quite valuable item that could easily make more in the trade mall. I recommend you to wait for a while, prices might start rising again.

I can just wait, but nobody will sell it for 2593 zp, so the price wont rise up more, and thats the point, what i wanted to bring some attention on

Utmost

Quake444 wrote: »

I can just wait, but nobody will sell it for 2593 zp, so the price wont rise up more, and thats the point, what i wanted to bring some attention on

That's true, I guess this is the curse when items like this have been in the trade mall for some time..

IGN_Galaxy

Same as what happens with everyone