Hackers

GlassGoogle

racism blah blah blah blah
okay let's talk about hackers
we all know that they are predominantly from Egypt and nearby countries hence the repetitive names relating to "Ahmed"
okay, are Egyptian teens so angst that the only way they get to express their stress is by cheating in games? Are Egyptians special in that they are born predestined to hack in games?

Ahmed -- Father
Mohammed -- Mother
Ahmed2 -- Son

Ahmed: wow, Mohammed, we have a baby!
Mohammed: so cool!
Ahmed2: haha now that i'm alive, i can hack in crossfire! yes yes yes yes yes

^ is that what happens?

another thing i've noticed is that most hackers have kdrs under 1.0
So it just goes like this: "I suck. damn it. i don't care about ethics, manners, or anything relating to how cheating isnt cool and harms the game and its players...HEY LETS DOWNLOAD SOME HACKS AND BE INCONSIDERATE OF EVERYONE ELSE."

^huh. i guess that must be the mindset of all these "AhmedisBest315"s

okay now lets talk about ethics and philosophy. if theyre kids, dont their parents teach them manners and kindness? dont the kids know that cheating is unethical and mean, and that it harms the game itself and its players? dont the kids learn from their parents that lying and stealing is bad, that gaining an unfair advantage is, well, unfair? Or all all Egyptian kids these days immoral bunches -- welp, lost a little more faith in humanity.
And if theyre adults -- why the heck are they still so impolite and ignorant of general mannerisms?

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please comment your thoughts! i really am curious about what goes on in the minds of (mostly Egyptian) hackers
when we understand why they cheat, we can help eliminate cheaters (hehaw hahaha ha "eliminate..*kill KILL kill" HAHA)

NinjaTeabag

Nothing we can really do about it.
In life we can't change how other people behave, but fortunately we can change how we behave and react.

Regarding ethics, I feel anyone can self justify their actions and then they believe what they're doing is ethical.
Of course it won't be ethical in other people's views but the one who self justified it.

GRarterty

I'm an Egyptian myself(I'm often ashamed to admit that), so please allow me to give you a little bit of insight on the matter.

You have to remember that Egypt is a developing country, so the parents are most likely negligent about new technology and the such, so they don't usually care if they cheat in something like that because they think it's just a children's game and don't include common ethics into the matter. Some parents also don't care if their kid cheated in real things like exams, saying they're happy their child passed the test at all. Also, CF is massively played in internet cafe's, so little parental moderation takes place when they're online.

As you can already tell, CF is a very popular game among Egyptians, but while there are hackers, there are others who do legitimately support and love the game, and despise hackers of all kinds even if they're from their own country, sometimes admitting that their country is garbage and they hate it with its people included.

And as you said, most of the hackers are children (14 or under), or ones who make hacks for a quick buck (waste of talent I know), and those children likely have friends and/or brothers who play the game, brag about their skill and their inventories, and the children get jealous. They want to feel good about themselves, They want to think that they're better than everyone. So what does a child do to get good as something quick with little effort spent? Cheat! Hell, some kids here think it's a bragging right that you're hacking! They're kids who don't have a sense of ethics, and you'd be naiive to say that only children here are insensitive to such things.

By the way, Turks also make up a big part of the community as well, CF's been declining in Egypt for a while now.

h8z8

If you got 200+ ping and a computer made out of wood and sand you need to get an edge somehow.

BigMeanie

GRarterty wrote: »

I'm an Egyptian myself(I'm often ashamed to admit that), so please allow me to give you a little bit of insight on the matter.

You have to remember that Egypt is a developing country, so the parents are most likely negligent about new technology and the such, so they don't usually care if they cheat in something like that because they think it's just a children's game and don't include common ethics into the matter. Some parents also don't care if their kid cheated in real things like exams, saying they're happy their child passed the test at all. Also, CF is massively played in internet cafe's, so little parental moderation takes place when they're online.

As you can already tell, CF is a very popular game among Egyptians, but while there are hackers, there are others who do legitimately support and love the game, and despise hackers of all kinds even if they're from their own country, sometimes admitting that their country is garbage and they hate it with its people included.

And as you said, most of the hackers are children (14 or under), or ones who make hacks for a quick buck (waste of talent I know), and those children likely have friends and/or brothers who play the game, brag about their skill and their inventories, and the children get jealous. They want to feel good about themselves, They want to think that they're better than everyone. So what does a child do to get good as something quick with little effort spent? Cheat! Hell, some kids here think it's a bragging right that you're hacking! They're kids who don't have a sense of ethics, and you'd be naiive to say that only children here are insensitive to such things.

By the way, Turks also make up a big part of the community as well, CF's been declining in Egypt for a while now.

I agree with everything except about the last part about Turks. You can see much less Turkish language in the chat than you could see before. Yes Turks make the second biggest playerbase but they are not even close to Egyptians in numbers. And Turkish players are slowly quitting this game and it has been a while that this is happening. Their numbers have decreased alot.

GRarterty

BigMeanie wrote: »

I agree with everything except about the last part about Turks. You can see much less Turkish language in the chat than you could see before. Yes Turks make the second biggest playerbase but they are not even close to Egyptians in numbers. And Turkish players are slowly quitting this game and it has been a while that this is happening. Their numbers have decreased alot.

Ah, my bad, it's just that I've been seeing plenty of turks in my games lately which lead me to think so. Guess it's just a coincidence

cvh16

GlassGoogle wrote: »

racism blah blah blah blah
okay let's talk about hackers
we all know that they are predominantly from Egypt and nearby countries hence the repetitive names relating to "Ahmed"
okay, are Egyptian teens so angst that the only way they get to express their stress is by cheating in games? Are Egyptians special in that they are born predestined to hack in games?

Ahmed -- Father
Mohammed -- Mother
Ahmed2 -- Son

Ahmed: wow, Mohammed, we have a baby!
Mohammed: so cool!
Ahmed2: haha now that i'm alive, i can hack in crossfire! yes yes yes yes yes

^ is that what happens?

another thing i've noticed is that most hackers have kdrs under 1.0
So it just goes like this: "I suck. damn it. i don't care about ethics, manners, or anything relating to how cheating isnt cool and harms the game and its players...HEY LETS DOWNLOAD SOME HACKS AND BE INCONSIDERATE OF EVERYONE ELSE."

^huh. i guess that must be the mindset of all these "AhmedisBest315"s

okay now lets talk about ethics and philosophy. if theyre kids, dont their parents teach them manners and kindness? dont the kids know that cheating is unethical and mean, and that it harms the game itself and its players? dont the kids learn from their parents that lying and stealing is bad, that gaining an unfair advantage is, well, unfair? Or all all Egyptian kids these days immoral bunches -- welp, lost a little more faith in humanity.
And if theyre adults -- why the heck are they still so impolite and ignorant of general mannerisms?

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.

please comment your thoughts! i really am curious about what goes on in the minds of (mostly Egyptian) hackers
when we understand why they cheat, we can help eliminate cheaters (hehaw hahaha ha "eliminate..*kill KILL kill" HAHA)

Its ok to hack but not ok to answer in the same coin, just quit this, like i did.