It's hilarious

Firstly - a whole damn weekend passed without exp bonus-z8games it's hilarious how you're manage to mess any possible thing

And about that "50% bonus zp" event - you really want us to buy zp when there are minimum 2 hackers in every damn room?sorry GM's but you are delusional

Third-can you finally after 9 years of this game lifetime to fix the ridiculous win rate of this game?I remember when CF BR was firstly published they gift 100k zp to every one for simply register account as it's a was still a new version back then ,and people were posting screen shoots of wins where they won 2-3 weapons from 100 crates...I also just lately seen few videos from CF Japan where people win 2 usp's from 10 crates...unlike this version -where players spin 700-800 and get literally nothing only temp c.rap (z8games stop rob us please)

CF Europe change their coupon weapons every 3 months and they get barets and ak47 flower power...and we still here at cave times getting them changed once a year and so and get only mp7 / colts reskins

Lastly - do something about the hackers for god sake
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  • It's hilarious....that you don't understand the bigger picture here.

    Crossfire is a business in business to make money.

    Players spinning 700-800 crates as you suggest is what makes them that money.

    And YES I would turn the win rate down if it were my business, because the kids still spend real money trying to win a token item.

    As for the hackers this game has the best anti cheat ever but the players don't use it.

    The best anti cheat is the kick vote but it is never used effectively. #Because Kids are stupid.

    You can cry about the kick vote all day long but if used right good honest players can have a good game.

    Lastly all hackers, every single one of them are players of the game, just like you and me, only they choose to cheat because it's so easy for them.

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Finally NO ONE makes you play this game or spend money on it.
  • Oh..and 1 more thing weekend bonuses are a gift NOT a right that you can demand.

    Be thankful for what you get.

    And just like all the Smart Clever Players of this game enjoy the moments you can and don't sweat the bad stuff
  • I agree with OP ,this game has so many issues and neither the GM's or the deves cares,they care only about money

    Lack of support,lack of communication...my latest 1000000000 tickets have exactly the same copy reply on all of them

    Should everyone go one step further like me
    though and quit the game as well
















  • 13JDog wrote: »
    Oh..and 1 more thing weekend bonuses are a gift NOT a right that you can demand.

    Be thankful for what you get.

    And just like all the Smart Clever Players of this game enjoy the moments you can and don't sweat the bad stuff

    sorry if i quote ur message but the problem for me it isn't the event itself,we are thankful for that but if they make an event and it didn't work......there is a problem.
    the point is if u make an event make sure it work otherwise dont make it.
  • Alessio24 wrote: »

    sorry if i quote ur message but the problem for me it isn't the event itself,we are thankful for that but if they make an event and it didn't work......there is a problem.
    the point is if u make an event make sure it work otherwise dont make it.

    L0L you ar right about that...If they are going to do something they should do it right.

    But when has this game ever been right.

    I said use the kick vote to get rid of hackers....but the kick vote isn't right either. kick says 9 no kick say 7 hacker stays...LoL

    You spin a crate crate says you win....z8 says you don't...you lose.

    Go Figure:)
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    It's hilarious....that you don't understand the bigger picture here.

    Crossfire is a business in business to make money.

    Players spinning 700-800 crates as you suggest is what makes them that money.

    And YES I would turn the win rate down if it were my business, because the kids still spend real money trying to win a token item.

    As for the hackers this game has the best anti cheat ever but the players don't use it.

    The best anti cheat is the kick vote but it is never used effectively. #Because Kids are stupid.

    You can cry about the kick vote all day long but if used right good honest players can have a good game.

    Lastly all hackers, every single one of them are players of the game, just like you and me, only they choose to cheat because it's so easy for them.

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Finally NO ONE makes you play this game or spend money on it.

    Kick voting system is not an absolute solution in fact the most of the players here have a fetish of supporting hackers. There is no other solution than a proactive anticheat software which can prohibit players from hacking. Something needs to be done to stop these hackers.

    BTW, I agree with your view about the low BM win rate.
  • olpers wrote: »

    Kick voting system is not an absolute solution in fact the most of the players here have a fetish of supporting hackers. There is no other solution than a proactive anticheat software which can prohibit players from hacking. Something needs to be done to stop these hackers.

    BTW, I agree with your view about the low BM win rate.

    But when will they ever implement an effective anti cheating software? It's been almost a decade and this game hasn't found a way to stop the rampant cheating that is going on. I do agree that the vote to kick system have flaws but it's the best short term solution we have until we actually see some "progress" in anti cheat. Cheaters are virtually invincible in a room without vote to kick nowadays because there's no other way to get rid of them other than relying on faith that their cheats will crash their game.
  • I remember the old anti-cheat before this one was far better at catching cheaters, but it was changed for a reason I cant remember, and this current one is real bad at what its supposed to do... But oh well.

    Kick voting is a joke in this community, and I've learned not to rely on that thing, ever.
  • MrSwifty wrote: »

    But when will they ever implement an effective anti cheating software? It's been almost a decade and this game hasn't found a way to stop the rampant cheating that is going on. I do agree that the vote to kick system have flaws but it's the best short term solution we have until we actually see some "progress" in anti cheat. Cheaters are virtually invincible in a room without vote to kick nowadays because there's no other way to get rid of them other than relying on faith that their cheats will crash their game.
    TBH i don't see them doing anything about this situation. Current anticheat needs serious improvements but i never saw it being updated. CF2 is on its way and i don't think that developers will do anything for the "old" cf rather they will focus on CF 2 entirely. Kick vote system is good and all but unfortunately player base is pure Sh__ They never kick hackers. Believe me or not but yesterday when i was playing EE S&D, i was on ace and my team was winning with a large margin (12-1) then some random hacker joined the other team and they started to win. I requested the other team to kick the hacker out but two persons were laughing at me and supporting hacker because they wanted to win. How can you expect players with that mentality to use Kick voting system fairly? on top of that, my team tried to kick me twice times just because i was on ace. They prefer kicking ace than a blatant hacker because that's what satisfies their ego. They will never accept someone who has better skills than them but they will live with hacker any day. I can specify hackers but unfortunately i will receive an infraction if i do so.

    I am an old veteran player who is playing this game for 9 years. I saw a huge wave of hackers hitting back in 2011-13 where it was impossible to play a single game without encountering 3-4 hackers in every single room. At that time it was literally hacker vs hacker game. Management of that time didn't do anything to save their game and many loyal players left this game because the situation was so bad. Almost all North American (NA) players decided to leave this game and NA servers died out since then. If i tell someone, who has started playing this game not more 2-3 years ago, that most of the NA servers were full especially NA 1 (known as Alpha server at that time),2 (Bravo Server) and NA 5 (Delta Server) then they would burst out laughing believing i uttered a blatant lie. Sadly, there are no more clan wars as clan servers are dead. UK servers are doing good but the idiots with invisibility and flying hack will destroy UK servers as well. I fear UK servers will meet the same fate if the problems stay as it is.
  • olpers wrote: »

    Kick voting system is not an absolute solution in fact the most of the players here have a fetish of supporting hackers. There is no other solution than a proactive anticheat software which can prohibit players from hacking. Something needs to be done to stop these hackers.

    BTW, I agree with your view about the low BM win rate.

    I agree. Kick voting is not an anti hack. People use non blatant cheats too.
  • BigMeanie wrote: »

    I agree. Kick voting is not an anti hack. People use non blatant cheats too.

    The Anti~Cheat should pick up all hackers but it needs fresh and regular updates. It should catch the non blatant cheats that players use.

    The blatant cheats are the ones the players should be using the kick vote to kick out of the room then report for a quick and easy BAN.

    The reporting tool should deal with blatant hackers reported properly.

    My point is that non of the above measures work properly. And that's the sad point.

    It is just a game and there will always be players that don't play it the way you would like them too.

    I hope the hack wave gets sorted soon, all these hackers will be so bad trying to use real skill.
  • 13JDog wrote: »

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Oh poor developers.They did nothing wrong.They can't get some money to buy a better anti-hack from their big money vault.It's too far :(((

    Players did nothing wrong too.Buying ZP for hundreds of dollars while this game is flooded with hackers and bugs is perfectly normal

    Trackers work every single time.Players receive the crates without a problem.


    How about you wake up and stop acting like the developers are some sort of saints.
    If you want to attract new players and keep them you should make your game playable first.That's how business works,people won't buy a bad product.

    Also the kick vote system is the biggest joke i've ever seen.When that thing was on i couldn't finish a single match of HMX/HM/MK.There were hackers flying around with poor aim but the one that was kicked 99.999% of the times was me.I was always on the top of the leaderboards.
    When i was using a ZP mutant i was kicked almost instantly.

    The game engine could be better if they even bothered to upgrade and modify it.The old engine is a weak argument.There were countless of games that had a garbage engine but it got way better overtime.I have a mid-end PC and i can play much more demanding games without a problem on medium-high settings.But for some reason in this game my FPS keeps dropping sometimes and i can experience some short freezes


    These developers literally do nothing and the cash keeps coming.Create events aka low effort missions with buggy trackers to act like it's content or something.
    Every update contains low effort reskins which can be only obtained by spending hundreds of thousands of ZP.Sometimes game modes which nobody plays.


    Again,why we shouldn't blame the developers?
  • wow guys thanks all for the feedback - I didn't except so many well written replies :)
    13JDog wrote: »
    It's hilarious....that you don't understand the bigger picture here.

    Crossfire is a business in business to make money.

    Players spinning 700-800 crates as you suggest is what makes them that money.

    And YES I would turn the win rate down if it were my business, because the kids still spend real money trying to win a token item.

    As for the hackers this game has the best anti cheat ever but the players don't use it.

    The best anti cheat is the kick vote but it is never used effectively. #Because Kids are stupid.

    You can cry about the kick vote all day long but if used right good honest players can have a good game.

    Lastly all hackers, every single one of them are players of the game, just like you and me, only they choose to cheat because it's so easy for them.

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Finally NO ONE makes you play this game or spend money on it.

    lol?

    complain about a broken game with tons of issues?totally valid

    also with such a toxic unmature community this "kick vote" is a joke - so your argument is invalid
  • @myhayyy;n6860889

    You wrote this..." These developers literally do nothing and the cash keeps coming.Create events aka low effort missions with buggy trackers to act like it's content or something.
    Every update contains low effort reskins which can be only obtained by spending hundreds of ZP.Sometimes game modes which nobody plays. "


    They do nothing? According to you, And the cash keeps coming.

    Why change that?

    I would do the same. New player come to the game all the time.

    They spend money its built into the plan from the start.

    You don't have to buy ZP but look at what you could get if you do....

    Until the cash STOPS coming in they don't need to change a thing. Get it.

    This game is just to make money and it succeeds in that.
  • complain about a broken game with tons of issues?totally valid Yes valid....so go complain....& good luck with that.

    also with such a toxic unmature community this "kick vote" is a joke - so your argument is invalid No I said about the kick vote if used right good honest players can have a good game. Read it properly.

    The staff of this game are told what to do. And that's all they can do.

    If the owners of this game had some of the passion the real players have...

    Then we would have a game to be proud of.

    Could you recommend this game to your friends?
  • As long as cash pouring into broken game, why would they change? Barely any useful updates for the game and the 10/10 anticheat and they still getting money.. it’s a win.

    Yeah if they weren’t getting any cash game might close or change but nonetheless cf2 in beta I wonder if they would both coexist or would this game have to go.
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    It's hilarious....that you don't understand the bigger picture here.

    Crossfire is a business in business to make money.

    Players spinning 700-800 crates as you suggest is what makes them that money.

    And YES I would turn the win rate down if it were my business, because the kids still spend real money trying to win a token item.

    As for the hackers this game has the best anti cheat ever but the players don't use it.

    The best anti cheat is the kick vote but it is never used effectively. #Because Kids are stupid.

    You can cry about the kick vote all day long but if used right good honest players can have a good game.

    Lastly all hackers, every single one of them are players of the game, just like you and me, only they choose to cheat because it's so easy for them.

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Finally NO ONE makes you play this game or spend money on it.

    Dude and to all..First of all in order to make a correct conversation here we must say the things exactly how they are!

    ______We DONT'HAVE vote kick option!_______

    ..We Only have it in some modes.(TDM,S&D) we need it. But the mentally damaged kids will start to kick everyone.
    And most of the times the aces..they will abuse this option again, you know it very well!

    (I can remember myself when i was been kicked EVERY time in FFA having ace 85/30 kills and in the last sec.all kick me!
    or been kicked from HM merida last round having 350 kills from suckers joined last round)

    ..those Mentally damaged kids are the -[ace haters]- they jealous ahahhaha
    and they abuse the vote system most of the time you all know it! they dont know how to play and they kick you.
    (In the other hand now that we dont have kick vote option, The hackers are playing more than legit players!)

    2ond you said that they dont know how to use the vote option or they dont use it at all. - correct! i have to inform you that they dont use it

    because when the cheaters/hackers are Been kicked they are from the same region with the mentally damaged kids!!!! this is really hilarius!
    Or because the hackers have friends and making pairs with eachother.Thatswhy we can't vote properly.

    3rd Vote kick is not a real anti-hack solution..NEVER! NOT EVEN CLOSE! Due to the amount of cheaters and mentally damaged kids i just said!

    if you are looking for honest players ,& fair voting ..you are in wrong game!!!you will never find them!

    4th The players giving money to open 800 crates must thing first in what kind of game they are giving money!if they don't.. then..the doctor is near!

    The GMs are not the produsers! they are running & monitoring the game and many more,but they are not the owners or the produsers.
    The produsers must just pay for more GMs for better monitoring, but they dont! They just want your money!

    5th The game SHOULD have an expensive anti-cheat program within and save replay option in order to report them all but again no hope!
    New modes are released and they dont even have one. Or it is lower from the old ones..

    6th Some users are asking for more benefits more crates - win rate and some'gifts'more from CF. Again wrong!!!
    The users should ask for better anti-cheat measures instead. And if the produsers don't do it, they must unistal CF.

    PS : >>> My experience in this game since 2009 tells me that we are entering a new CF age where everything is set according to the money..even the Clan's Ranking is based
    on ZP purchases for leveling up..this new age will be the last & worst for many users because we can't find legit players,properly rooms,good vibes,Fair banning system
    and many many more. The lack of fun in CF is real due to many reasons! This new CF age will be the worst for the majority of legit players of all times , due to the brainless users mostly -And the lack of attention by the produsers.
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    @myhayyy;n6860889

    You wrote this..." These developers literally do nothing and the cash keeps coming.Create events aka low effort missions with buggy trackers to act like it's content or something.
    Every update contains low effort reskins which can be only obtained by spending hundreds of ZP.Sometimes game modes which nobody plays. "


    They do nothing? According to you, And the cash keeps coming.

    Why change that?

    I would do the same. New player come to the game all the time.

    They spend money its built into the plan from the start.

    You don't have to buy ZP but look at what you could get if you do....

    Until the cash STOPS coming in they don't need to change a thing. Get it.

    This game is just to make money and it succeeds in that.

    If developers actually did something to improve this game they would get a lot more money because more new players will stay and won't leave after a couple of matches.That's why CF NA is slowly dying.

    "I would do the same. New player come to the game all the time."
    This is disgusting.I hope you never get to be a developer.
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    complain about a broken game with tons of issues?totally valid Yes valid....so go complain....& good luck with that.

    also with such a toxic unmature community this "kick vote" is a joke - so your argument is invalid No I said about the kick vote if used right good honest players can have a good game. Read it properly.

    The staff of this game are told what to do. And that's all they can do.

    If the owners of this game had some of the passion the real players have...

    Then we would have a game to be proud of.

    Could you recommend this game to your friends?

    +1 to this

    I dont recommend this game even to myself !!! the lack of passion of the users is real in this new CF age & the lack of old school CF's fun is real also!!!
    i dont even log- in very often due to several reasons.
  • @myhayyy;n6860889

    Calm Down & Relax

    We are the friendly players.

    Remember please the developers work for the owners.

    The developers do not get to say how the game is run, the owners at the very top decide this, and I bet they have NEVER logged into UK 5 and tried it ;)

    I am sad to see the state of this game but here are 2 things for you ...

    1 its just 1 game of many you can go and play.

    2 there is more fun to be had in real life if you want it.


    Peace
  • If you hate the game, just leave.....

    EDIT: They won't listen they prefer to talk about random stuff on discord instead of being a good gm.
  • I felt the same way, like why the damn other online games can have a super duper mega anti-cheat program on their game and no need to report hackers on discord or on actual website reporting system, like cheaters in the other games are getting banned automatically once they found something illegal is going on. Well this is just one of the "WHY's" that we had in mind.. Infact i found myself as a fool player when i realized that i shouldnt spent money on this game but it was too late.. now i dont buy zp for like a year and a half.. so yeah! maybe ppl needs to stop buying vip's or zp crates so z8games will realized how this game is actually one of the worst..
  • This game should of stayed with SubaGames they actually gave a cr.ap. z8 has done nothing except remake what was already good and like adding dumb modes and the same map 3 times in one mode. Not talking about the GM's, I'm talking about the developers that are just too money hungry to actually listen to their players. Only way they're going to make this game great again is if you start listening to people.
  • I felt the same way, like why the damn other online games can have a super duper mega anti-cheat program on their game and no need to report hackers on discord or on actual website reporting system, like cheaters in the other games are getting banned automatically once they found something illegal is going on. Well this is just one of the "WHY's" that we had in mind.. Infact i found myself as a fool player when i realized that i shouldnt spent money on this game but it was too late.. now i dont buy zp for like a year and a half.. so yeah! maybe ppl needs to stop buying vip's or zp crates so z8games will realized how this game is actually one of the worst..

    +1, this is so bad. I know even private servers from other games has even better anti hack shield system that this potato.
  • 13JDog wrote: »
    It's hilarious....that you don't understand the bigger picture here.

    Crossfire is a business in business to make money.

    Players spinning 700-800 crates as you suggest is what makes them that money.

    And YES I would turn the win rate down if it were my business, because the kids still spend real money trying to win a token item.

    As for the hackers this game has the best anti cheat ever but the players don't use it.

    The best anti cheat is the kick vote but it is never used effectively. #Because Kids are stupid.

    You can cry about the kick vote all day long but if used right good honest players can have a good game.

    Lastly all hackers, every single one of them are players of the game, just like you and me, only they choose to cheat because it's so easy for them.

    Don't blame the GM, Mods or players themselves blame the old out of date engine this game uses.

    Finally NO ONE makes you play this game or spend money on it.

    for kick stuff, yes nobody use it properly and Z8 removed the ability to kick in some maps resulting of these maps full of hackers : wave mode, HMX, ranked game for exemple. Z8 say farming isn't allowed. THAT is hilarious when you check stats and see players (like IDK]ThoreN-) making 20 000 000 xp/week and 350k hs of 485k kills and z8 let it continue. what about all those tdm/ffa bot farmers ? seen so many high ranked player with 500 k kill in tdm and 7k in s/d with kdr < 0.5 in s/d LOL. this is ridiculous.
    for myself, I don't want put any money anymore on this game.
  • The amount of toxicity in this thread is unreal. If you've got something against Z8 by all means let out your frustrations, but what do you accomplish by insulting fellow players? I just ask that everyone be respectful to one another. Shouldn't be too difficult, right?
  • Most of the mods don't even play this game anymore, please perhaps play / endure the mockery this game has become, see the frustration from our perspectives, what your loyal players since 2009 had to deal with it and then come back and talk about "toxicity"
  • Most of the mods don't even play this game anymore, please perhaps play / endure the mockery this game has become, see the frustration from our perspectives, what your loyal players since 2009 had to deal with it and then come back and talk about "toxicity"

    The mods are just regular players who have no control regarding the state of the game. We can however ask that people show each other respect on the forums. That's all.
  • Kinda sad how buying a VVIP weapon is more profitable than buying crates
  • [QUOTE=[MOD]Weiwei;n6861295]

    The mods are just regular players who have no control regarding the state of the game. We can however ask that people show each other respect on the forums. That's all.[/QUOTE]

    Finally staff member replied

    I wasn't insulting users,I was criticising current staff,back at Saidin time this game was at top of his priorities,unlike today staff that forget this game exist once weekend arrives.

    Maybe you are right and I made this thread with a lot of flame and frustration...but it's only "out of sadness" about see the game I was in love with when I was a kid become into such a mess.

    Also about the negative feedback about support-you can't deny it - it is shown on million of complaint threads already -they refuse to help even with minor things like "stack items",not to talk about major things like banned accounts and accounts recovery...they just give their copy paste creepy ass generic TOS link as response-they just don't care any more