Seriously, the cheating is getting out of control. It will effect revenue for Z8

Mutation Mode cheating and buddy blocking is rampant.
Players getting in the walls of the Power Plant map is rampant.

I want to play Crossfire, I want to buy points and I want to check the black market, etc...

I do not want to spend the limited game time I have on line devoted to faciliting cheaters and their stats, nor do I want to spend my entire time reporting cheaters.

What will happen is I, and others, will get sick of it, and stop playing. That means Crossfire will cease to be a revenue generator.

Please, fix the problem. Reporting hackers and cheaters is NOT the fix. Fix the maps, fix the coding, fix the glitches.

Lead with revenue, not with loss.

Respectfully,

Chris C.

Comments

  • Glitching on Alaska is rampant, removing the bloody boxes (if they can't be fixed) may be the best solution.
  • about the glitchin 2 things

    1: If u glitch you probably fail whit out 1

    2:If u think glitch is skill you fail only thinkin that >:)
  • just more examples why they shoud be using punkbuster not xcrap...
    but as long as trash pays them they will do nothing
  • mindrot67 wrote: »
    just more examples why they shoud be using punkbuster not xcrap...
    but as long as trash pays them they will do nothing

    If you don't how Punkbuster works, don't even suggest it.
    It won't work on CF.
  • mindrot67 wrote: »
    just more examples why they shoud be using punkbuster not xcrap...
    but as long as trash pays them they will do nothing
    Major Features in PunkBuster™
      Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats
      Throttled two-tiered background auto-update system using multiple Internet Master Servers to provide end-user security ensuring that no false or corrupted updates can be installed on players' computers
      Frequent status reports (highly encrypted) are sent to the PB Server by all players and the PB Server raises a violation when necessary which causes the offending player to be removed from the game and all other players are informed of the violation
      PB Admins can also manually remove players from the game for a specified number of minutes or permanently ban if desired
      PB Servers can optionally be configured to randomly check player settings looking for known exploits of the game engine
      PB Admins can request actual screenshot samples from specific players and/or can configure the PB Server to randomly grab screenshot samples from players during gameplay
      An optional "bad name" facility is provided so that PB Admins can prevent players from using offensive player names containing unwanted profanity or racial slurs
      Search functions are provided for PB Admins who wish to search player's keybindings and scripts for anything that may be known to exploit the game
      The PunkBuster™ Player Power facility can be configured to allow players to self-administer game servers when the Server Administrator is not present entirely without the need for passwords
      PB Servers have an optional built-in mini http web server interface that allows the game server to be remotely administered via a web browser from anywhere over the Internet

    it sounds good, but as _Sp4wn_ said, can it work for cf?
  • Major Features in PunkBuster™

    • Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats
    • Throttled two-tiered background auto-update system using multiple Internet Master Servers to provide end-user security ensuring that no false or corrupted updates can be installed on players' computers
    • Frequent status reports (highly encrypted) are sent to the PB Server by all players and the PB Server raises a violation when necessary which causes the offending player to be removed from the game and all other players are informed of the violation
    • PB Admins can also manually remove players from the game for a specified number of minutes or permanently ban if desired
    • PB Servers can optionally be configured to randomly check player settings looking for known exploits of the game engine
    • PB Admins can request actual screenshot samples from specific players and/or can configure the PB Server to randomly grab screenshot samples from players during gameplay
    • An optional "bad name" facility is provided so that PB Admins can prevent players from using offensive player names containing unwanted profanity or racial slurs
    • Search functions are provided for PB Admins who wish to search player's keybindings and scripts for anything that may be known to exploit the game
    • The PunkBuster™ Player Power facility can be configured to allow players to self-administer game servers when the Server Administrator is not present entirely without the need for passwords
    • PB Servers have an optional built-in mini http web server interface that allows the game server to be remotely administered via a web browser from anywhere over the Internet
    it sounds good, but as _Sp4wn_ said, can it work for cf?

    It won't .
  • Trust me, Punkbuster won't work. It's one of the easiest anticheats to bypass when coupled with games like this. I was a moderator for War Rock when they were using PB, and it failed in every single aspect. To be perfectly honest Xtrap is the most effective anticheat system that I've seen. However, just like any other anticheat, it needs to be constantly updated to disable the most current hacks. So far I've noticed a fairly quick response time from the Xtrap team, but keep in mind that new hacks will always be created. It will never be possible to remove 100% of cheaters from any online game.
  • Trust me, Punkbuster won't work. It's one of the easiest anticheats to bypass when coupled with games like this. I was a moderator for War Rock when they were using PB, and it failed in every single aspect. To be perfectly honest Xtrap is the most effective anticheat system that I've seen. However, just like any other anticheat, it needs to be constantly updated to disable the most current hacks. So far I've noticed a fairly quick response time from the Xtrap team, but keep in mind that new hacks will always be created. It will never be possible to remove 100% of cheaters from any online game.

    I think a MOD needs to make a sticky on a post like this. Just so it can get through to those who don't quite understand.
  • though you shoot my idea down in burning flames remember enemy territory thye went pb lost 4000hackers in 1 day,donot tell me it doesnt work ive used it on most of my games and have had great sucess..
    zippo67
    Mecca
    Where brains allways beat hactrash
  • Sorry to say PB sucks majorly and will ban more non hackers then hackers. Also dont give me that crap about there being a lot of hackers in Crossfire cause their really isnt that many. Its more along the lines nubs playing against higher ranked players and being pwned then complianing hacks or people from other countries complaining about being pwned by an NA player when the NA player has 5-60 ping compared to their 150-250+
    Lag is the major culprit to people screaming HACK in this game people dont seem to understand the delay difference between a 15 ping player and 200 ping player. That delay difference is a big difference maker. I know cause i can be being shot at first but my lower ping allows my shot to register before theres so I dont die but they do :)

    Which also brings me to the fact that shots before I DIE SHOULD REGISTER!!!! If I pull the trigger before I die and they are in my sites they should be hit.
  • X-Trap deals with the hacks, not Z8Games

    like Greycloak and Spawn have said, X-Trap is a pretty decent antihack system and PB WILL NOT work. The amount of times ive been kicked from games on COD4 for stupid reasons that didnt even make sense half the time... it will cause more trouble than good.
  • I have sent a report here.If you have spent money here id send one too.
    http://www.bbb.org/canada/
  • NemesisXtc wrote: »
    Sorry to say PB sucks majorly and will ban more non hackers then hackers. Also dont give me that crap about there being a lot of hackers in Crossfire cause their really isnt that many. Its more along the lines nubs playing against higher ranked players and being pwned then complianing hacks or people from other countries complaining about being pwned by an NA player when the NA player has 5-60 ping compared to their 150-250+
    Lag is the major culprit to people screaming HACK in this game people dont seem to understand the delay difference between a 15 ping player and 200 ping player. That delay difference is a big difference maker. I know cause i can be being shot at first but my lower ping allows my shot to register before theres so I dont die but they do :)

    Which also brings me to the fact that shots before I DIE SHOULD REGISTER!!!! If I pull the trigger before I die and they are in my sites they should be hit.



    you are stupid as well.Go search total vip hack sells since xtrap..


    Fail keep on failing.GG
  • Well, I believe there are more hackers than we think...Add hackers to the list of other issues, such as lagg, glitching etc. It really is becoming an aggravation to play CF. The only way around it I see is to only play with friends, clan mates - pug matches or scrimming. But if you like to play in pubs you just have to deal with all that BS. But what do you do?
  • Trust me, Punkbuster won't work. It's one of the easiest anticheats to bypass when coupled with like this. I was a moderator for War Rock when they were using PB, and it failed in every single aspect. To be perfectly honest Xtrap is the most effective anticheat system that I've seen. However, just like any other anticheat, it needs to be constantly updated to disable the most current hacks. So far I've noticed a fairly quick response time from the Xtrap team, but keep in mind that new hacks will always be created. It will never be possible to remove 100% of cheaters from any online game.

    Yo so if I get a vip hak send you guys the .dll even after a hack patch will you update.I will pay to constantly have xtrap updated for a clean game.Yes there is a way to stop it..I just told you.how.
    spend money for a clean game.Its only 18.50 a month to keep the game 95% hak free.go buy the damn hak and block it each update.wow
  • mindrot67 wrote: »
    though you shoot my idea down in burning flames remember enemy territory thye went pb lost 4000hackers in 1 day,donot tell me it doesnt work ive used it on most of my games and have had great sucess..
    zippo67
    Mecca
    Where brains allways beat hactrash

    K PB is easily to bypass. VIP hacks will continue work
    Chris556 wrote: »
    Mutation Mode cheating and buddy blocking is rampant.
    Players getting in the walls of the Power Plant map is rampant.

    I want to play Crossfire, I want to buy points and I want to check the black market, etc...

    I do not want to spend the limited game time I have on line devoted to faciliting cheaters and their stats, nor do I want to spend my entire time reporting cheaters.

    What will happen is I, and others, will get sick of it, and stop playing. That means Crossfire will cease to be a revenue generator.

    Please, fix the problem. Reporting hackers and cheaters is NOT the fix. Fix the maps, fix the coding, fix the glitches.

    Lead with revenue, not with loss.

    Respectfully,

    Chris C.

    It arent cheaters but hack3rs or glitchers, I dunno what u wanna say, give more explanation plz
    Major Features in PunkBuster™
      Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats
      Throttled two-tiered background auto-update system using multiple Internet Master Servers to provide end-user security ensuring that no false or corrupted updates can be installed on players' computers
      Frequent status reports (highly encrypted) are sent to the PB Server by all players and the PB Server raises a violation when necessary which causes the offending player to be removed from the game and all other players are informed of the violation
      PB Admins can also manually remove players from the game for a specified number of minutes or permanently ban if desired
      PB Servers can optionally be configured to randomly check player settings looking for known exploits of the game engine
      PB Admins can request actual screenshot samples from specific players and/or can configure the PB Server to randomly grab screenshot samples from players during gameplay
      An optional "bad name" facility is provided so that PB Admins can prevent players from using offensive player names containing unwanted profanity or racial slurs
      Search functions are provided for PB Admins who wish to search player's keybindings and scripts for anything that may be known to exploit the game
      The PunkBuster™ Player Power facility can be configured to allow players to self-administer game servers when the Server Administrator is not present entirely without the need for passwords
      PB Servers have an optional built-in mini http web server interface that allows the game server to be remotely administered via a web browser from anywhere over the Internet

    it sounds good, but as _Sp4wn_ said, can it work for cf?

    Dont trust PB
    Trust me, Punkbuster won't work. It's one of the easiest anticheats to bypass when coupled with games like this. I was a moderator for War Rock when they were using PB, and it failed in every single aspect. To be perfectly honest Xtrap is the most effective anticheat system that I've seen. However, just like any other anticheat, it needs to be constantly updated to disable the most current hacks. So far I've noticed a fairly quick response time from the Xtrap team, but keep in mind that new hacks will always be created. It will never be possible to remove 100% of cheaters from any online game.

    Xtrap is so not good, i dont like it.. GameGuard was sh1t too. And with PB it would be worser i guess
    s0b3r wrote: »
    I think a MOD needs to make a sticky on a post like this. Just so it can get through to those who don't quite understand.

    That could the CM's and Mod's do, but they want "the" best Anti-Hack Program
  • mindrot67 wrote: »
    though you shoot my idea down in burning flames remember enemy territory thye went pb lost 4000hackers in 1 day,donot tell me it doesnt work ive used it on most of my games and have had great sucess..
    zippo67
    Mecca
    Where brains allways beat hactrash

    Its because z8 is in on the money scheme.Dont you guys get it?

    If they got PB they know it be over for hackers and the income.
  • Its ok I have money on the way for my first vip .dll purchase so I can report it myself.

    Pretty sad the customer is willing to pay for the hack just so I can turn it in each time for a clean game.We will see how far this gets us.
  • Mybe use PB a one month and x-trap a one month and other anticheat system a one month....

    Maybe creat anticheat z8 team - players who play CF everyday from z8 team and give him special panel too fast ban cheators......but only trust team.

    Maybe creat special system what show who have too much vote proms in all games......u given top100 best voters and after u manually see why? Hack or maybe only good.....(top100 is a small number to check statistic manually every one month"?")

    If u dont do with cheators or hack pages.....peaplos go play car simulators or other games...maybe Mario Bros? We pay and we wonna play fair....no with childrens and stupids noobs who uses hacks and never buy ZP.

    (sry 4 english)

    Grtz from Poland.
  • Just look at c.o.d., pb is not hack proof. Remember it is all code and code can be and will always be hacked. I agree though, there needs to be a security patch very soon for it is out of control. The free hack download must be out because more aimbotters than before and also more wallers than before. Glitching is continually rising. I must say though, most glitchers and hackers I see are usually south american. Maybe give them their own server and then we can just deal with the wallers. If anything at least patch up the glitches on powerplant. I love that map but I can't play it anymore due to the high glitching. I spend a lot of money on crossfire because I love this game but rescently I am just not that interested in playing it. What's the point. I will be playing more css and cod4 until I am motivated to invest time in crossfire. Quite tragic, really it is. I know Z8 is concerned about this issue and will do a patch soon.
  • Cheating

    Nobody seems to "cheat, cham, or hack" anymore. We see a few of them every now and then, but we report them. I do have one question though... If somebody buys a lot of Zp, and they hack, do they get banned? I see some of the biggest Zp noobs who clearly hack, when I send in the replay with the followed steps, I always get a reply that only says: "We're sorry, this isnt the correct file type." or "We're sorry, this player isnt using any hacks." Hmmm... Maybe 143/1 isnt hacking, or maybe they just buy a lot of Zp. I mean you CANT have all the golden gun series, every Blackmarket gun, every coupon gun, and not have bought Zp. So my summary is: Do big Zp buyers get banned too? Or do they get a free pass?
  • I am not sure. Look at turk mike lol he was a zp chamming noob. He has a silver bird rank I believe and he was banned for hacking. This wasnt that long ago. Just rescently I see seen him with a new account and he is already an ice cycle. He said he will always hack. He even had zp guns lol. So I am not sure about that statement that zp big buyers dont get banned. Turk mike is evidence against that statement.
  • Trust me, Punkbuster won't work. It's one of the easiest anticheats to bypass when coupled with games like this. I was a moderator for War Rock when they were using PB, and it failed in every single aspect. To be perfectly honest Xtrap is the most effective anticheat system that I've seen. However, just like any other anticheat, it needs to be constantly updated to disable the most current hacks. So far I've noticed a fairly quick response time from the Xtrap team, but keep in mind that new hacks will always be created. It will never be possible to remove 100% of cheaters from any online game.
    Is it really you? Greycloak? Been a while since I seen this face. How's it going, I quit WarRock, not long after you did, and he is right. Punkbuster is one of the easiest anti-cheats to bypass. Add me Grey.
  • I am bloody sick of the glitchers, in every map you go into someone has either glitched or you see someone trying to glitch. I think its about time CF sorted this problem out as alot of players will end up going elsewhere :-(